richard_smith237 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: 7 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said: I prefer my plan, at a little over 4,000 per annum for 2 devices with the same number When was that important in this thread? C'mon Gottfrid - t'was you who kicked off that very facet of the discussion... (quote below). Many myself included... use WiFi as our data usage is heavy and we travel a lot... My plan 10 GB is actually free, or rather its part of the 'house' TV and Internet Set up (one Mobile Phone line is included).... I often go over 10 GB if I'm out a lot... thus I use WiFi when I can... ... There is also the issue of my Phone Automatically loging into True WiFi when out and about in Bangkok, annoying as its quite slow !!! and, as I think about the comments made by others I don't want to log into such networks that really are quite unknown. I think your suggestion of a 'second secure' phone and a 'user' is a good one... perhaps things have come to that. I have a second phone for work... which I use 'only' for work - (as work have access to it - though I'm not sure to what extent - and I don't want them to read some of the messages I sent to the utter idiots on this forum !!!)... A 3rd phone for 'banking securty' seems like overkill... But, how far do we need to take this when there are so many scammers around ? ... as another poster pointed out... Am I paranoid, or am I not paranoid enough ? ... what digital footprint to we leave, cookies, passwords, pishing risk ?... and worse still 'spear pishing' is now a thing. Its starting to make sense to have a dedicated 'financial device'... On 11/3/2024 at 7:08 PM, Gottfrid said: Why would you do that, when you already have trusted mobile data from your sim provider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigStar said: No, the point is to find a possible fault before the phone leaves the store and also set it up. If there's a fault out of the box in the phone you ordered--which would have been detected at the store--you'll have to go through the bother of returning it and getting a new one and then go through, or attempt to go through, your check and setup again. The question really isn't mainly about your losing money. In the time you've taken to post here, Studio 7 could have set up at least 3 phones for you. I agree it's unlikely the ordered phone from Apple with be defective, but--shock!--it can be. If you look on the 'net, you'll find plenty of users reporting issues with their new iPhones out of the box. So you'll find support pages like this: How to fix iPhone 16 Pro Max Stuck on Setup? If your iPhone won't turn on or is frozen Now, I don't care in the least where you buy your phone. Since you posted your complaint, I'm merely pointing out, for your edification, that a store's rational policy, which might even have benefitted you, isn't "bonkers" merely because you don't like it. Please inform us of the store's bankruptcy in the near future. You make valid points... they'd be a lot more 'effective' if the policy included 'swapping the phone' for one that does not have an issue, if an issue is found. But, as I highlighted earlier in the thread, when they 'test' the phone, you've already paid (in most cases, but not in the case of the Op)... and if they find an issue, then that phone is yours, so iStudio will assist you though the 'warranty process' to send it to apple to get it fixed. Thus: I'm not acutally sure of the reason for iStudio checking the phones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 41 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: You make valid points... they'd be a lot more 'effective' if the policy included 'swapping the phone' for one that does not have an issue, if an issue is found. If an issue is found at the store, they'd replace it with another one on the spot. I don't know about their policy about defects discovered after the phone's left the store. I'm sure there is one of some sort, but we'd need definite information. 48 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: But, as I highlighted earlier in the thread, when they 'test' the phone, you've already paid (in most cases, but not in the case of the Op)... and if they find an issue, then that phone is yours, so iStudio will assist you though the 'warranty process' to send it to apple to get it fixed. I don't think so, as you paid for a working phone in the store, but they themselves found that they didn't deliver a working phone. It's not like you broke it in the store after you bought it. 55 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Thus: I'm not acutally sure of the reason for iStudio checking the phones. To verify that your new phone is in good working order and set up for immediate use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BigStar said: If an issue is found at the store, they'd replace it with another one on the spot. I don't know about their policy about defects discovered after the phone's left the store. I'm sure there is one of some sort, but we'd need definite information. No.. thats not true... I've purchased times from iStudio before and asked the very question... If an item is defective, you've already purchased it - they just help with the warranty process That said: a few years ago purchased the iPhone 13 from iStudio in Thonglor J-Avenue - and they didn't 'test it'... I walked out with the unopened phone (as after asking, there was no point in them checking) Recently I purchased a 'power bank' (iStudio K-Village, Rama IV) - my phone was nearly out of battery and I needed urgent charge so asked them to check (it came with 50% charge) - asked then, again, what would have happened if it was defective, they said, they'd send it for repair / (meaning start the warranty process). 8 minutes ago, BigStar said: I don't think so, as you paid for a working phone in the store, but they themselves found that they didn't deliver a working phone. It's not like you broke it in the store after you bought it. My experience differs based on the questions I've asked them - is why I don't buy from iStudio (unless desperate for an item as I was the charger) - perhaps something was lost in translation the both times I asked - so I can't be certain, but I'm sure enough not to want to shop there. 8 minutes ago, BigStar said: To verify that your new phone is in good working order and set up for immediate use. Wash rinse reapeat - you keep saying that, but thats not my experience... hence the process to check that it works is somewhat moot... Again - something may have been lost in translation, I could be wrong as its not exactly a 'frequent occurance' that I get something from iStudio.... Your suggestion of how this plays out is far more logical - but, I've made this mistake of thinking logic takes precident enough times not to make assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: You make valid points... they'd be a lot more 'effective' if the policy included 'swapping the phone' for one that does not have an issue, if an issue is found. But, as I highlighted earlier in the thread, when they 'test' the phone, you've already paid (in most cases, but not in the case of the Op)... and if they find an issue, then that phone is yours, so iStudio will assist you though the 'warranty process' to send it to apple to get it fixed. Thus: I'm not acutally sure of the reason for iStudio checking the phones. earlier this year when I got mine from AIS, they say if it's not satisfactory when they go over the phone with me they'll open another box If studio 7 says they'll only assist in getting warranty work and not new replacement right away then yes it's pointless to inspect the phones with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, digbeth said: earlier this year when I got mine from AIS, they say if it's not satisfactory when they go over the phone with me they'll open another box If studio 7 says they'll only assist in getting warranty work and not new replacement right away then yes it's pointless to inspect the phones with them Indeed... though I'm only going off two encounters... and as we all know mileage varies significantly over here... So I'm not going to stand up and state my understainding of iStudo policy as 100% fact - but what I woud suggest, is anyone purchasing from such a store to double check what happens if an item is defective. Its probably still better than getting home and finding out then... but best still, pay 'after' they check if you can get away with it.... Bought a TV last week (PowerBoy at homePro)... Paid, expected to 'take it home'... then they wanted to check it... I forgot to ask what would have happened if it was faulty - but again, its odd that the process is to take payment then check rather than the other way round. Edited 11 hours ago by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago On 11/3/2024 at 12:22 PM, PJ71 said: I never buy anything of value off Lazada, don't trust them one bit. Bought stuff for 25k through Lazada. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, BigStar said: No, the point is to find a possible fault before the phone leaves the store and also set it up. If there's a fault out of the box in the phone you ordered--which would have been detected at the store--you'll have to go through the bother of returning it and getting a new one and then go through, or attempt to go through, your check and setup again. The question really isn't mainly about your losing money. In the time you've taken to post here, Studio 7 could have set up at least 3 phones for you. I agree it's unlikely the ordered phone from Apple with be defective, but--shock!--it can be. If you look on the 'net, you'll find plenty of users reporting issues with their new iPhones out of the box. So you'll find support pages like this: How to fix iPhone 16 Pro Max Stuck on Setup? If your iPhone won't turn on or is frozen Now, I don't care in the least where you buy your phone. Since you posted your complaint, I'm merely pointing out, for your edification, that a store's rational policy, which might even have benefitted you, isn't "bonkers" merely because you don't like it. Please inform us of the store's bankruptcy in the near future. No, it wouldn't have benefitted me at all to have them test it and set it up. As has been pointed out to you several times that if a fault was found in store then they probably wouldn't even replace it with a new replacement from stock and instead would need to send it to Apple. Maybe you are not competent enough to set these things up and need a store employee to do this for you and if so that is fine, but I am more than capable of doing with this myself. I am also more than capable of contacting Apple if the phone is faulty when delivered, although since this has never happened in the past then I'd be surprised if it happened this time. If a stupid store policy puts off customers like me from buying the device from them, and puts off customers like me from using them in future then I'd say its a bonkers policy as it is very easily resolved by giving the purchaser the choice of whether or not they need the store employee to open, handle and test the new device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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