Why Donald Trump Could be a Major Challenge for the British Government

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You've changed your tune since Brexit. 😆

 

No surprise though...

It’s one of the observations I’m making about you.

 

The will of people seems not to matter to you anymore.

 

Where as I have consistently argued that a democratic vote can be overturned by a following democratic vote, you’ve now gone down the path of an elected MP and leader of an opposition party assisting a foreign leader against the democratically elected British Government.

 

Its a surprising turn from someone who’s spent so much time banging on about ‘will of the people’ , ‘sovereignty’, ‘freedom from foreign interference’ and claims of being a ‘patriot’.

 

 

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[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The will of people seems not to matter to you anymore.

 

You're the one supporting/defending foreign interference by a Labour government in US elections.

 

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. 😄

 

When we voted Brexit you wanted a second vote because the margin wasn't clear enough, not enough people voted etc. But now only 20% of the people voted for Labour there are no such complaints. Highly amusing.  

[riclag]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:38 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

How much is he giving Ukraine while old people may freeze to death in the UK?

Hear hear! 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The will of people seems not to matter to you anymore.

 

 

Well, it certainly doesn’t seem to matter to you, because you don’t seem to have any idea what it means or how it can be defined.

 

You called a vote by 20% of the eligible electorate the will of the people. Risible; and to extend that, the UK has a population of over 68 million, not all, for various reasons eligible to vote. So if you take Labours votes at the election (9,708,816) the 20% is nearer 14% …. will of the people ?…. hilarious and embarrassing in equal measure.

 

 

 

[John Drake]

I can understand why Trump's attitude towards the UK could mean trouble for the British. But the UK really doesn't matter much to the US. Frankly, as an American, I'm more interested in strengthening ties with the Philippines and Japan and reinforcing American positions in Okinawa, Guam, and South Korea. Whatever Starmer thinks is irrelevant for Americans. Trump shouldn't even bother to invite him to the US or even meet with him. He's small potatoes. 

[NanLaew]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:36 AM, JonnyF said:

 

The UK and the US have always had a special relationship.

 

Lammy has potentially damaged it with his inane comments about Trump. Farage could help repair that. 

 

Farage could what now?

 

I know what Nigel can do, he can change the toilet rolls at Mar-a-Lago.

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[Chomper Higgot]

59 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You're the one supporting/defending foreign interference by a Labour government in US elections.

 

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. 😄

 

When we voted Brexit you wanted a second vote because the margin wasn't clear enough, not enough people voted etc. But now only 20% of the people voted for Labour there are no such complaints. Highly amusing.  

You’re the one engaging in a ridiculous false equivalence.

 

Volunteering to help an election campaign is not the same thing as a sitting g MP and leader of an opposition party acting together with a foreign leader against the elected British Government.

 

Lets have no more ‘sovereignty’, ‘will if the people’, ‘anti-Brit’ allegations or claims to be ‘a patriot’ from you Jonny.

 

A second democratic vote is democracy in action, calling for a sitting MP and leader of an opposition party to assist a foreign leader against the democratically elected British Government is treachery.

 

 

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[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re the one engaging in a ridiculous false equivalence.

 

Volunteering to help an election campaign is not the same thing as a sitting g MP and leader of an opposition party acting together with a foreign leader against the elected British Government.

 

Lets have no more ‘sovereignty’, ‘will if the people’, ‘anti-Brit’ allegations or claims to be ‘a patriot’ from you Jonny.

 

A second democratic vote is democracy in action, calling for a sitting MP and leader of an opposition party to assist a foreign leader against the democratically elected British Government is treachery.

 

 

 

No. Calling for a second vote because you didn't like the result of the first one is not Democratic. 

 

A President of the US (Obama) trying to interfere in Britain leaving the EU is deeply inappropriate.

 

Starmer keeping a foreign secretary who has routinely thrown deeply offensive insults at the US President is not in the best interests of the country. 

 

Labour's head of operations sending a team to campaign for the Democrats in the US elections is at best inflammatory and at worst illegal. 

 

You support all 4. 😆

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

No. Calling for a second vote because you didn't like the result of the first one is not Democratic. 

 

A President of the US (Obama) trying to interfere in Britain leaving the EU is deeply inappropriate.

 

Starmer keeping a foreign secretary who has routinely thrown deeply offensive insults at the US President is not in the best interests of the country. 

 

Labour's head of operations sending a team to campaign for the Democrats in the US elections is at best inflammatory and at worst illegal. 

 

You support all 4. 😆

Democratic votes are not democratic.

 

What utter nonsense Jonny.

 

So who’s your second choice for Farage to help interfere in British domestic politics if Trump turns him down?