What Americans Want and why Democrats Failed

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

I am a 70+ years old guy in NE Thailand. I have and have never had any immediate family wives or children in USofA (e.g. the guy whose daughter comes to visit him in Thailand and she is older than his current Thai wife).

 

As far as MY connection to the US, what matters to me are these concerns:

 

The US Stock market 
The money/bond market
Social Security
Medicare (if needed)
The USD to Thai baht exchange rate to the extent influenced by the US economy

 

And for me, personally, as long as those things stay copacetic I don't really care who is US President.
 

 

Understood. However, A 2023 survey conducted by Payroll.org highlighted that 78% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, a 6% increase from the previous year. In other words, more than three-quarters of Americans struggle to save or invest after paying for their monthly expenses.  https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/living-paycheck-to-paycheck-statistics-2024/#:~:text=or lost income.-,How Many Americans Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck%3F,paying for their monthly expenses.

 

The Forbes article is potent and to be honest, I am oblivious to their plight. Like you, I am concerned only with my ROI on investments. I am still paying into the retirement plans, and doubt I will collect what I contributed to the government when the time comes to claim the benefit. The Trump campaign understood the fears and concerns of the paycheck to paycheck people and gave them something to  dream for, to hope for. The Democrats did not. Desperate people will attach themselves to the candidate who offers a chance to do better.

 

 

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

Say the median age of account owners is 40. What might be the expected value of a $30K in an S&P index fund in 25 years? 

 

Long term planning and strategy is not a trait of the US citizen or of US companies. Very few Americans are thinking about 25 years. Most are struggling to pay this month's expenses.

Over several decades I have worked for large US multinationals. The emphasis, the focus was always on short term gain, of increasing share price and maximizing shareholder return. 

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

$1,000 invested in an S & P 500 index fund in 1985 would be worth about $45k today. 

If in addition to the initial $1,000 investment, you invested $100 per month, the value today would be about $600k.

 That's nice. Please adjust for after tax and time value.

Also, please reflect the reality. The vast majority of Americans are struggling to pay this month's expenses. The server at Denny's, the cashier at Walmart, the school teacher in Topeka,  typically does not have $100 a month to invest like this.

[jerrymahoney]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

(Understood)  The Forbes article is potent and to be honest, I am oblivious to their plight. Like you, I am concerned only with my ROI on investments.

Reagan in the 1980 debate with then President Jimmy Carter famously asked: “Are you better off today than you were four years ago?”

 

He didn't ask are other people better off, he asked about YOU. I realize, as James Carville said in 1992 "It's the economy, stupid" and that may be the single best reason why the Dems lost this week.

 

Whether Trump can make happy those people who feel disenfranchised and disillusioned with their current economic straits, I guess we will find out later.

[Talon]

WHY TRUMP WON

 

Great Watch

 

 

 

 

[bubblegum]

13 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

Why would we want to read project 2025 when it was written by Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, Hot Trump, who has said 101 times that he didn't agree with it.....

 

Once again -when condemning Trump--dont lets get any fact's in the way of a good argument

Sure, stay gullible.

[hotchilli]

On 11/6/2024 at 8:37 PM, NickyLouie said:

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliant.....

[thailand49]

On 11/7/2024 at 3:37 AM, Jingthing said:

They clearly want fascism.

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Edited 1 hour ago by thailand49

[Chosenfew]

[simple1]

11 hours ago, theblether said:

The majority of voters made it clear they don't want what the Democrats are offering. 

 

The sooner the Democrats excise the poison of the Marxist scum and DEI grifters the better. These people are a cancer on the party. 

 

And the bizarre thing is, as a result they have driven youngsters into conservative/republican positions. 

 

68% of those who could vote did not do so. Those that did currently shows trump received roughly the same number of votes as in 2020, whereas Harris received approx 10 million less than Biden in 2020.

[flexomike]

On 11/7/2024 at 3:37 AM, Jingthing said:

They clearly want fascism.

NO we just want you to take your BS elsewhere

[flexomike]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Why do you defend such a sleazeball?

You are the king of <removed>

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

"Real news" like on Russia Today, Qanon or Alex Jones?

Tools of the Devil, the lot of 'em.

[flexomike]

11 hours ago, quake said:

 

Please, move away from the mirror.

Yes with a face like that I am sure it would crack

[G_Money]

12 hours ago, jas007 said:

 

Inflation stabilized?  

 

You haven't seen anything yet.  The Fed is now about to cut interest rates again, and with Trump in the White House, we can look forward to more money printing and deficit spending.  That was going to happen, regardless of who won the presidency.  They have no choice.  

 

They say the dollar has another five years or so. 

“They say the dollar has another five years or so. “

 

Again.  Been hearing that for 30+ years.

 

This time it’s different.  Got it!