Trump's Climate Rollbacks and Renewed Fossil Fuel Push

[Social Media]

 

Donald Trump's election victory has reintroduced a climate change skeptic into the White House, raising serious concerns about the future of U.S. climate policy and the global push to mitigate human-driven climate change. Trump’s win positions him to reverse many of the green policies established by his predecessor, potentially undermining worldwide efforts to control rising temperatures.

 

Throughout his campaign, Trump revived his notorious "drill, baby, drill" slogan, framing U.S. oil and gas reserves as valuable “liquid gold.” In his victory speech, he emphasized the wealth beneath American soil, signaling his intent to expand fossil fuel production. According to experts, a second Trump term could significantly hinder the United States’ transition to green energy, casting doubt on whether key climate targets can be reached.

 

The effects of his election victory could be felt almost immediately, even before his inauguration in January. U.S. negotiators, who play an influential role in international climate agreements, may face reduced authority and leverage at the upcoming COP29 climate summit, set to begin on November 11 in Azerbaijan. With a more hesitant U.S. stance on climate diplomacy, global efforts to reduce reliance on fossil fuels could falter, creating an opening for other major emitters, like China and India, to decelerate their own climate commitments.

 

"With Trump's win, we now face, at best, a repeat of his last term's climate inaction—a four-year pause we simply can't afford in this critical decade," stated Johan Rockstrom, a climate scientist and director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. "With a climate skeptic back in the White House, the pressure on the world, and especially on EU leadership, to act will intensify enormously."

 

Trump’s first term set a precedent, as he withdrew the United States from the landmark Paris Agreement, a decision President Joe Biden later reversed. Trump's renewed vow to withdraw again from the agreement means the world’s second-largest emitter could back out of the global accord once more, undoing progress the Biden administration had worked to restore. Officially, withdrawing from the Paris Agreement requires a year-long process, which would keep the U.S. technically in the accord until 2026—though likely only in name rather than active participation.

 

Laurence Tubiana, one of the architects of the Paris Agreement, commented on the impact of Trump’s return to the White House, calling it a challenge not only for the United States but for the entire global community. “It’s worse than 2016. And not only in the United States,” Tubiana told AFP. “It will take an unprecedented mobilization so that the shock of the American decision does not impact other countries that have become reluctant to accelerate action.”

 

The U.S., under the Paris Agreement, had pledged to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by half by 2030, using 2005 levels as a baseline. As of 2023, emissions had already dropped by 18 percent, according to a report from the Rhodium Group. However, an analysis from Carbon Brief suggests that if Trump follows through on his plans, his return to office could add an estimated four billion metric tons of CO₂-equivalent emissions by 2030. This amount would be comparable to the combined annual emissions of the European Union and Japan, representing a setback that could prove challenging for the global community to offset. 

 

As the world continues to grapple with the realities of climate change, the consequences of a shift in U.S. policy away from emissions reduction and climate diplomacy are poised to affect both current and future generations. For many environmental advocates and climate scientists, Trump's re-election represents a critical moment that could either renew or hinder the global resolve to fight climate change at this pivotal time.

 

Based on a report by AP 2024-11-08

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

Trump’s first term set a precedent, as he withdrew the United States from the landmark Paris Agreement, a decision President Joe Biden later reversed. Trump's renewed vow to withdraw again from the agreement means the world’s second-largest emitter could back out of the global accord once more, undoing progress the Biden administration had worked to restore. Officially, withdrawing from the Paris Agreement requires a year-long process, which would keep the U.S. technically in the accord until 2026—though likely only in name rather than active participation.

Good news. It's time to kick the MMCC IMO BS into touch. Too much money has been wasted on conventions in exotic parts of the world where far too many people fly to emit a whole lot of hot air.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

For many environmental advocates and climate scientists, Trump's re-election represents a critical moment that could either renew or hinder the global resolve to fight climate change at this pivotal time.

the global resolve to fight climate change at this pivotal time.

 

That sentence is why I think it's all BS. IMO we can't "fight" climate change. Humans will never win over nature.

 

It's time to finally face up to reality, ditch the BS and start working to live WITH nature, not fight it. Learn to accommodate climate change, and stop pretending that EVs and windmills are some magic solution. Cancelling all future conventions where people attend in person would be a good start. By all means have a convention by VDO conference.

[Cryingdick]

He should start. The keystone pipeline on day one. He need more refineries yesterday we aren't building them anymore. We already produced more than any country in history this year we need be able top distribute it and refine it

[nobodysfriend]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

Trump’s win positions him to reverse many of the green policies established by his predecessor, potentially undermining worldwide efforts to control rising temperatures.

It is too late anyway .

The effects of a continuously warming world are here and accelerating .

 

Trump can give licenses to fossil fuel companies to drill in natural reserves , but he won't be able to protect people against more and more Hurricanes , floodings , droughts , fires , and the consequences of all of these ...

1.5 degree warming ? Forget it . It will be 4 degrees or more ....

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

It is too late anyway .

The effects of a continuously warming world are here and accelerating .

 

Trump can give licenses to fossil fuel companies to drill in natural reserves , but he won't be able to protect people against more and more Hurricanes , floodings , droughts , fires , and the consequences of all of these ...

1.5 degree warming ? Forget it . It will be 4 degrees or more ....

 

As the climate has warmed from the beginning of the industrial era all that has happened is that over all humans have become more prosperous on the whole.

[theshu25]

The guy is a complete f  idiot. Coul;d not even dig a hole in his backyard.

[James105]

So America are going to miss out on this?  I'm sure they will be gutted.   

 

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

It is too late anyway .

The effects of a continuously warming world are here and accelerating .

IMO 100% correct. The very idea that we can reverse climate change to the way it was before in some mythical age where hurricanes never happened, floods were unknown and drought was only in thrillers is

 

Lets stop building in flood plains, fire zones, end world population increase, and start living WITH nature.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

The guy is a complete f  idiot. Coul;d not even dig a hole in his backyard.

You shouldn't talk about the senile like that. I'm sure Biden could dig a hole in his backyard.

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You shouldn't talk about the senile like that. I'm sure Biden could dig a hole in his backyard.

At least Trump would know what end of the shovel is the business end. 

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO 100% correct. The very idea that we can reverse climate change to the way it was before in some mythical age where hurricanes never happened, floods were unknown and drought was only in thrillers is

 

Lets stop building in flood plains, fire zones, end world population increase, and start living WITH nature.

 

Disagree. Not a fan of restricting where people can live or build. That said they should be made aware you won't have insurance and government assistance for disaster doesn't cover that area. There are coastal areas I would love to get a plot of land that are being restricted. If I want to build build a shack or have a camper there and own the land that's my business. But not everybody is a bad ass like me.Restricting land will lead to high housing prices.. Ask England.

[Woke to Sounds]

17 minutes ago, James105 said:

So America are going to miss out on this?  I'm sure they will be gutted.   

Interesting stuff. The reason the UK tops that list is because of unfettered wokeism.

 

Go woke, go broke baby.

[JonnyF]

Great news.

 

Drill Drill Drill. 

 

Cheap energy. Less reliance on imports. No pandering to the doomsday cult.

 

Congratulations America. Good times ahead. 

[James105]

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great news.

 

Drill Drill Drill. 

 

Cheap energy. Less reliance on imports. No pandering to the doomsday cult.

 

Congratulations America. Good times ahead. 

 

I'm jealous.  If presented with a referendum on the UK becoming a 51st state I would vote for it.   The UK electoral system means effectively we get a woke conservative party that has been infiltrated with leftists or a woke labour party.  So dark times ahead for the UK, both figuratively and literally, as net zero nonsense means the lights will go out on a regular basis and the few manufacturing companies left relocate to other countries (like America) as the cost of production is significantly cheaper.  

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

I'm jealous.  If presented with a referendum on the UK becoming a 51st state I would vote for it.   The UK electoral system means effectively we get a woke conservative party that has been infiltrated with leftists or a woke labour party.  So dark times ahead for the UK, both figuratively and literally, as net zero nonsense means the lights will go out on a regular basis and the few manufacturing companies left relocate to other countries (like America) as the cost of production is significantly cheaper.  

 

I think the best case scenario would be Reform and the Conservatives merging to avoid splitting the right wing vote (which resulted in Labour sneaking in with low support), but with the new party's emphasis on Reform's policies rather than the Conservatives. Let someone like Richard Tice lead them as Farage is too marmite. 

 

The left leaning Tories like Rory Stewart could leave and go to Labour, leaving a straight choice between left and right. After 4 more years of Labour lies, incompetence and authoritarianism, there would be no appetite for them continuing. 

[Lacessit]

45 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great news.

 

Drill Drill Drill. 

 

Cheap energy. Less reliance on imports. No pandering to the doomsday cult.

 

Congratulations America. Good times ahead. 

There will be intensifying hurricanes, tornadoes, forest fires, heat cells, droughts and floods. Helene and Milton are just the opening stanzas.

 

Watch your property insurance premiums go through the roof. Watch Trump say his thoughts and prayers are with the victims of natural disasters. If they are lucky, he may even send them toilet rolls.

 

I am wondering how many thermodynamic ignoramuses will be on this thread.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

There will be intensifying hurricanes, tornadoes, forest fires, heat cells, droughts and floods. Helene and Milton are just the opening stanzas.

 

Watch your property insurance premiums go through the roof. Watch Trump say his thoughts and prayers are with the victims of natural disasters. If they are lucky, he may even send them toilet rolls.

 

I am wondering how many thermodynamic ignoramuses will be on this thread.

 

Another Doomsday conspiracy theorist.

 

Deaths from natural disasters are as low as they have ever been. 

[Donga]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There will be intensifying hurricanes, tornadoes, forest fires, heat cells, droughts and floods. Helene and Milton are just the opening stanzas.

 

Watch your property insurance premiums go through the roof. Watch Trump say his thoughts and prayers are with the victims of natural disasters. If they are lucky, he may even send them toilet rolls.

 

I am wondering how many thermodynamic ignoramuses will be on this thread.

 

Keep the reading The Guardian, BBC, The Economist, ABC, Sydney Morning Herald, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, The New York Times and all the other mainstream left media and you'll wallow in doom and gloom until to you shuffle off this mortal coil - likely believing Western civilisation brought this calamity along with slavery, and all the other miseries of the world.

And please don't assume any moral high ground or intellect - totally unwarranted hubris. Or others might say... useful idiots.

[Lacessit]

16 minutes ago, Donga said:

 

Keep the reading The Guardian, BBC, The Economist, ABC, Sydney Morning Herald, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, The New York Times and all the other mainstream left media and you'll wallow in doom and gloom until to you shuffle off this mortal coil - likely believing Western civilisation brought this calamity along with slavery, and all the other miseries of the world.

And please don't assume any moral high ground or intellect - totally unwarranted hubris. Or others might say... useful idiots.

I don't need to read any of those. I understand thermodynamics, clearly you don't.

[Donga]

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I don't need to read any of those. I understand thermodynamics, clearly you don't.

 

Haha so proud of your little word are we?

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

No pandering to the doomsday cult.

No pandering to the doomsday cult? Utter horse manure. This is dismissive of legitimate concerns about the impact of climate change on the planet and future generations. While it's important to approach these issues with a sense of balance and pragmatism, it's also important to take them seriously and consider the long-term consequences of energy policy decisions.

 

BTW

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

The left leaning Tories like Rory Stewart could leave and go to Labour

he quit all the BS 5 years ago.

[Lacessit]

23 minutes ago, Donga said:

 

Haha so proud of your little word are we?

Shooting the messenger and belittling me simply demonstrates you are as dumb as a can of soup.

 

Bye bye.

[John Drake]

Western nations need to deport illegal aliens. Doing so would reduce the population and the demand on carbon emitting resources. Save the planet! Deport an illegal alien today!

[Lacessit]

16 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Western nations need to deport illegal aliens. Doing so would reduce the population and the demand on carbon emitting resources. Save the planet! Deport an illegal alien today!

And send the people importing them for work at slave wages to jail.

 

Illegal aliens don't get to their destinations without collusion.

 

Oh wait, Trump was using undocumented workers..........

[John Drake]

Just now, Lacessit said:

And send the people importing them for work at slave wages to jail.

 

Illegal aliens don't get to their destinations without collusion.

 

Oh wait, Trump was using undocumented workers..........

 

I have no argument with anything you wrote in that post.

[Purdey]

Yes, drill baby drill.

And as the climate gets worse, close or defund all those Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist socialist, pinky parts of government that may try to save the lives of those affected by natural disasters using national taxes! 

Kill FEMA, police and fire departments, Medicare, the National Weather Service forever. 

 Who needs them?

 

Don't know what came over me. Go back to what you were doing.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

he quit all the BS 5 years ago.

 

Not really. Just recently he said that he would bet 100,000 pounds (I hope he did but I doubt it) on Harris winning. He said it wouldn't even be close. He is not only a leftist pretending to be a conservative but a complete idiot, it was obvious Trump would win as I had been saying for several months. And I was right - again. 

 

[WDSmart]

This is perhaps the worst of Trump's promises, but certainly not unexpected from a narcissistic autocrat.

[Donga]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Shooting the messenger and belittling me simply demonstrates you are as dumb as a can of soup.

 

Bye bye.

You crack me up Lacessit 😅

You started this with "I understand thermodynamics. Clearly you don't" , so yep, I responded on your "little word".

Like a good new Leftie (in days of olde, Lefties cared mostly about workers and general equality not the crap of today) you say I'm shooting the messenger - where did that come from? Are you truly an oracle? More like a rabid sheep, amid tales of doom & gloom.

And then you assert I'm as "dumb as a can of soup". Incredible.

Btw - I believe we should do what makes sense to mitigate global warming but with some caveats:
1. Ramp up nuclear energy and recognise the limits of intermittent renewables
2. Stamp on the media, professors and teachers from their wild assertions, often far more alarmist than the IPCC
3. Foster more debate instead of the BS, "science is settled" oxymoron - lets start with temperature records and weather events