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1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I don't appear to be able to post the article that called them hooligans and thugs . They are quite a few countries that have notorious fans when abroad England being a particuarly nasty case it would appear the Maccabi Ultras are no differrent.

 

   Can you provide some evidence of when Maccabi have been involved if violence abroad ?

   "Ultras" are NOT the hooligans , they're the guys that sing songs 

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11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Another one who is ignoring the targeted attacks on Jews that is on numerous videos and quoted by numerous officials.

 

Muslim mobs in Amsterdam are hunting Jews tonight. I wish this was fiction. It's not.

 

 

That is not the account of the video's owner. The video owner has clarified that these are Maccabi fans. You can see the team colours on some of them. Not a Palestinian flag to be seen. 

I'm sure it's true that there are organized attacks going on and anyone who's part of that should be dealt with. But so far I'm reading 5 people hospitalized in this orgy of violence. That doesn't seem to be a particularly high number. And it also seems clear some Maccabi fans are hooligans whose behaviour probably got the reaction they wanted. 

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27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The mob were even forcing the Jews to say "Free Palatine" when they had kicked them to the ground. 

 

Purely circumstantial.

 

They aren’t Muslims until Sir Keir Starmer says they are. Same as the southport child killer with his al qaeda training manual.

 

Don't believe me? Ask Chomper.

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2 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

 

That is not the account of the video's owner. The video owner has clarified that these are Maccabi fans. You can see the team colours on some of them. Not a Palestinian flag to be seen. 

I'm sure it's true that there are organized attacks going on and anyone who's part of that should be dealt with. But so far I'm reading 5 people hospitalized in this orgy of violence. That doesn't seem to be a particularly high number. And it also seems clear some Maccabi fans are hooligans whose behaviour probably got the reaction they wanted. 

Rubbish, its in the OP from Reuters:

 

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15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Purely circumstantial.

 

They aren’t Muslims until Sir Keir Starmer says they are. Same as the southport child killer with his al qaeda training manual.

 

Don't believe me? Ask Chomper.

This Southport thing seems like out of control progressive left madness. People have been jailed for comments made that appear to be correct.

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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There you go again. You made a claim and cant prove it, your lying

Are you seriously incapable of checking the news you read? It's credited on the Reuters website. 
Try iannetnl on Twitter. She posted a few videos. 

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Sadly sometimes religion is a very bad thing. Personally I'm fine with people believing in an invisible entity as long as it doesn't impact the life of others. Unfortunately this is not how religion works in the world we live in.

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37 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Are you seriously incapable of checking the news you read? It's credited on the Reuters website. 
Try iannetnl on Twitter. She posted a few videos. 

 

Yes very capable actually and I also dont make false claims. Here is what you said:

 

 "The video owner has clarified that these are Maccabi fans."

 

Still waiting for the link to that claim and a link to her crediblity to identifying the nationalities of a savage mob attacking one or two people.

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo

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1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-footage-shows-israeli-soccer-fans-taunting-arabs-in-amsterdam-with-anti-palestinian-chants/

 

Video footage on social media shows Israeli soccer fans chanting against Arabs and Palestinians in Amsterdam, pointing to high tensions and unrest prior to the nighttime attacks.

Pro-Palestinan activists have claimed that the Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were the first to engage in harassment and violence, saying they assaulted Arabs in the city and vandalized Palestinian flags.

 

The claim has yet to be  corroborated, i.e. as in what led up to that alleged activity. What is certain is that individuals who were not involved were attacked. Nor does it justify running over people. What we are seeing now are attempts to  downplay the incident and to quickly change the narrative to blame the victims of the violence. It is a tried and true messaging strategy.

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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Yes very capable actually and I also dont make false claims. Here is what you said:

 

 "The video owner has clarified that these are Maccabi fans."

 

Still waiting for the link to that claim.

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo

Search the name he gave you on Twitter and she confirms it -  I can link and or screen grab if you want.

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32 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Search the name he gave you on Twitter and she confirms it -  I can link and or screen grab if you want.

The name is not needed from him, its already on the Reuters vid in black and white........you lot :saai: & no she does not confirm that on this video and even if she did, did she actually speak to them and confirm that this fighting mob were Israeli? Because it shows a savage gang attacking  Jews as described in the OP by Officials on the BBC website and Reuters

 

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43 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This Southport thing seems like out of control progressive left madness. People have been jailed for comments made that appear to be correct.

Got the obligatory laughing emoji for this post. Seems someone doesn't know what's happening in relation to this. Did the PM Know the facts of the circumstances before people were jailed? If he did then innocent people were jailed with his knowledge of their innocence.  

p.s. awaiting the troll emoji wnkrs.

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Israeli fans violently attacked after Amsterdam soccer match

 

Please provide a link to any claims made.

 

5. You will not use ASEAN NOW to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, inaccurate, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. Topics or posts deemed to be scaremongering, deliberately misleading or which deliberately distort information will be removed. In factual areas such as news forums and current affairs topics member content that is claimed or portrayed as a fact should be supported by a link to a relevant reputable source.

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"While the exact sequence of events remained unclear, the violence appeared to be the product of two combustible forces in Europe: the unrest that often accompanies gatherings of hard-core soccer fans and tensions over the yearlong Israeli military offensive in Gaza."    NYT.png.3303ea3d371b11d675a16583660ee965.png    Israeli Soccer Fans Injured in Amsterdam Attacks That Authorities Call Antisemitic  

 

Unfortunately,  we don't yet have a coherent timeline or detailed account of what happened on the streets of Amsterdam.  From the witness reports that are available and statements by police and Dutch authorities from the PM on down, it appears pro-Palestinian demonstrators did indeed hunt down and assault Jews in a shocking wave of antisemitism.  

 

It's very distressing that in 2024,  Jews in a major European city have to be warned not to wear a Star of David, kippah or other symbol of their religion and to hide in their hotel rooms.  

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