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Since the results came out lots of mental breakdowns....


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29 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Very likely it's a case of cognitive dissonance:

 

"Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes."

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012

 

What I think is probably happening is that some individuals are finding it very hard to come to terms with the fact that more than half the voting public chose to elect Donald Trump.  The reason this causes cognitive dissonance is the two conflicting beliefs their brains are struggling to cope with.

 

Due to their strong disliking to Donald Trump, many people have constructed an imaginary image in their heads of who he is.  This makes it easier to hate him and see him as the bad guy, without admitting that what they are doing is irrational.  The knock-on effect from this imaginary image is that they had to create imaginary people to support Trump, the "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists".

 

Deep down, these people know that 73,500,000 people cannot all be "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists", so the result of the election threatens to shatter the image these people have created that allowed them to hate Trump and Trump supporters so passionately.  With this image shattered, what they are left with is the idea that it is actually them with the problem, and people find this hard to accept, leading to emotional distress.

Hang on have the Democrats stormed the White House Yet 

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2 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

I am baffled that the left reacts so childishly to losing an election.  OK some are going to point to Jan 6 but that was an outlier overreaction.  The vast majority of the right shrugged "oh well Trump lost in 2020" and went to work that day.  Classes at elite universities were held and no ones hand was held to get over their disappointment in the elections results.  No offers to students of safe spaces to cope with the loss of Trump's re-election. 

 

Since Trump was declared this year universities have offered cancelled classes, safe spaces, therapy and counseling for students in the wake of "oh my god Trump won".  Tiktok is overrun with videos of screams from the lefties and crying jags.

 

Explain to me why these mentally unstable people are the smart ones again?  I also wonder if they realize their social media is part of who they are and is looked at by HR when they graduate and apply for a job in the real world?  Might be OK to have a mental breakdown when they are applying for barista at Starbucks but jobs in business management or other mainstream corporate America don't want people who can't cope with life's letdowns in an adult manner. 

 

 

 

 

You mentioned Starbucks etc,

They’ll be looking for employment!

Plenty of Open Society positions possibly.George Soros organizations have or are still looking  to finalize purchasing

many radio stations across the country .

 

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https://www.nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/george-soros-taking-shortcut-to-buy-200-us-radio-stations-fcc-commissioner-says-commissioner-brendan-carr-of-the-federal-communications-commission-democratic-dem-influence-billionaire-foreign-money-transaction-nick-langworthy-house-committee-media

 

 

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1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

Very likely it's a case of cognitive dissonance:

 

"Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes."

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012

 

What I think is probably happening is that some individuals are finding it very hard to come to terms with the fact that more than half the voting public chose to elect Donald Trump.  The reason this causes cognitive dissonance is the two conflicting beliefs their brains are struggling to cope with.

 

Due to their strong disliking to Donald Trump, many people have constructed an imaginary image in their heads of who he is.  This makes it easier to hate him and see him as the bad guy, without admitting that what they are doing is irrational.  The knock-on effect from this imaginary image is that they had to create imaginary people to support Trump, the "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists".

 

Deep down, these people know that 73,500,000 people cannot all be "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists", so the result of the election threatens to shatter the image these people have created that allowed them to hate Trump and Trump supporters so passionately.  With this image shattered, what they are left with is the idea that it is actually them with the problem, and people find this hard to accept, leading to emotional distress.

 

Thanks for that. I can respect this analysis.

 

I think, though, that there is a significant number of people on the left who truly do now believe that tens of millions of their fellow citizens actually are racist, sexist, transphobic, fascist, et al.

 

They’ve spent big parts of their recent lives in their social media-driven ideologically leftist echo chambers, which has reinforced and amplified all their worst impluses and reduced their ability to think critically. The result is fragile, fearful, ignorant people who believe and act on all the worst victimization tropes circulating with gusto in their edenic bubbles.

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2 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

is part of who they are and is looked at by HR when they graduate and apply for a job in the real world?  Might be OK to have a mental breakdown when they are applying for barista at Starbucks but jobs in business management or other mainstream corporate America don't want people who can't cope with life's letdowns in an adult manner

 

Unfortunately, this kind of rational thinking is rapidly being cast aside as “boomer” logic.

 

The younger generation will be completely running the HR departments and corporate America in time, and theirs is a world in which social factors play an outsized role in perceptions of competence. We already see safe spaces (etc.) all over the place, and the coddling effect is directly related to how irrational social justice-related behavior won’t be an impediment to navigating a “real job” in the future (or even now).

 

IOW I don’t think these people really fear repercussions on their futures. “Consequences” are (a) passé these days, and (b) becoming reserved for truly heinous skeletons in one’s closet such as having accidentally mis-pronouned someone on a long-forgotten social media post, or having made a mildly distasteful joke at an identity group’s expense 10 years ago.

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22 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:

 

Thanks for that. I can respect this analysis.

 

I think, though, that there is a significant number of people on the left who truly do now believe that tens of millions of their fellow citizens actually are racist, sexiest, transphobic, fascist, et al.

 

They’ve spent big parts of their recent lives in their social media-driven ideologically leftist echo chambers, which has reinforced and amplified all their worst impluses and reduced their ability to think critically. The result is fragile, fearful, ignorant people who believe and act on all the worst victimization tropes circulating with gusto in their edenic bubbles.

Their worst impulses , shaving their heads to protest! Wired !  

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/liberal-women-vow-sex-strike-in-protest-over-trumps-win/

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22 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

"Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes."

 

Not really.

CogDis is more about acting in ways which are contrary to one's beliefs.

This creates far more stress/anxiety.

This stress is only relived when one acts in ways that are congruent with one's beliefs.

This resolution is the opposite of dissonance.

 

 

Festinger is one of my favorite people.

Also, Leon Russell.

Both leons, I like.

 

And Leon's best tune is  maybe...

 

Out in the Woods.

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21 hours ago, tai4de2 said:

They’ve spent big parts of their recent lives in their social media-driven ideologically leftist echo chambers, which has reinforced and amplified all their worst impluses and reduced their ability to think critically. The result is fragile, fearful, ignorant people who believe and act on all the worst victimization tropes circulating with gusto in their edenic bubbles.

 

Some very clever people have managed to split America into 2 distinct groups:

 

Trumptards & Libtards

and never the twain shall meet.

 

At least with football supporters the vast majority know *it doesn't really matter*.

 

Always remember:

 

Republicans are Red

Democrats are blue &

Neither of them Give a ---- ----- ---

 

Alternative last line:

 

Both of them rare owned by some ---s

 

Hope your country heals but won't hold my breath

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Hummin said:

You make a claim without any sources to back your claim.

 

However the number of intellectual amerikans leaving and plan to leave Usa is skyrocketing! 

And the number that actually will is close to zero. 

 

Sure, some of the ultra rich leftists will go for a bit, and maybe a few youtubers, but that’s it. 

 

They all said they were going to leave in 2016 as well and never did. 

 

The “journalists” said Trump was going to round them up and put the in jail. Why have they not left if they believe that? 

 

Because they are liars.

 

 

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23 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Very likely it's a case of cognitive dissonance:

 

"Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes."

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012

 

What I think is probably happening is that some individuals are finding it very hard to come to terms with the fact that more than half the voting public chose to elect Donald Trump.  The reason this causes cognitive dissonance is the two conflicting beliefs their brains are struggling to cope with.

 

Due to their strong disliking to Donald Trump, many people have constructed an imaginary image in their heads of who he is.  This makes it easier to hate him and see him as the bad guy, without admitting that what they are doing is irrational.  The knock-on effect from this imaginary image is that they had to create imaginary people to support Trump, the "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists".

 

Deep down, these people know that 73,500,000 people cannot all be "MAGA, Nazi, racist, Fascists", so the result of the election threatens to shatter the image these people have created that allowed them to hate Trump and Trump supporters so passionately.  With this image shattered, what they are left with is the idea that it is actually them with the problem, and people find this hard to accept, leading to emotional distress.

An impressive piece of forensic psychoanalysis!

 

Tell me, as a sideline, have you considered selling snake oil? I believe that it is very lucrative once you have identified a suitably gullible audience!

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