Top Oxfordshire Prep School to Close Amid Controversial VAT Policy on Private Education

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody has taken away private schools.

 

Carrdus was obviously on the ropes, read the reviews, high staff turnover was already a problem.

How about giving all children a high standard education and then letting them decide what they want to do in life?!

 

Carrdus was obviously on the ropes, read the reviews, high staff turnover was already a problem.

 

I read the Inspection report that also contains information on Staff and management. Its a good report and does not reflect your claims that it was obviously on the ropes. Another one of your unsubstantiated slurs.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Carrdus was obviously on the ropes, read the reviews, high staff turnover was already a problem.

 

I read the Inspection report that also contains information on Staff and management. Its a good report and does not reflect your claims that it was obviously on the ropes. Another one of your unsubstantiated slurs.

The fact that it has folded so soon after the VAT announcement suggests it was in the ropes.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fact that it has folded so soon after the VAT announcement suggests it was in the ropes.

 

 

That does not substantiate your new slur.

 

It hasn't folded.......yet. The fact that parents removed children from the school so soon suggests that they cannot afford the new VAT tax.

[youreavinalaff]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No you haven’t.

 

But you are doing a splendid impression of a pigeon playing chess.

 

I have. I guess you are in denial. A slip up that is now uneditable. so you move on to derogatory comments.

 

Rinse and repeat.

[scottiejohn]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fact that it has folded so soon after the VAT announcement suggests it was in the ropes.

 

 

Why!

As you always demand of us lesser mortals please provide a link to your suggestion!

Edited yesterday at 11:38 AM by scottiejohn

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I have. I guess you are in denial. A slip up that is now uneditable. so you move on to derogatory comments.

 

Rinse and repeat.

Still waiting for you to outline this contradiction you claim I have made.

 

I’m not however holding my breath, it’s your MO.

 

Kick the pieces over and waddle off.

[scottiejohn]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Kick the pieces over and waddle off.

I do so much wish that you would take your own advice!

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Why!

As you always demand of us lesser mortals please provide a link to your suggestion!

It folded, the OP describes the heads remarks: “This timing has put many private schools under intense financial strain, particularly those with already declining enrollment rates.”

 

Clearly the school was already struggling with enrollment.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Why!

As you always demand of us lesser mortals please provide a link to your suggestion!

Refer post above.

 

And the fact the school is closing.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fact that it has folded so soon after the VAT announcement suggests it was in the ropes.

 

 

Or just the last "straw that breaks the camels back"!

[scottiejohn]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Refer post above.

 

And the fact the school is closing.

 

 

As usual a reply with no meaningful content!

Edited yesterday at 11:48 AM by scottiejohn

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It folded, the OP describes the heads remarks: “This timing has put many private schools under intense financial strain, particularly those with already declining enrollment rates.”

 

Clearly the school was already struggling with enrollment.

Wrong again, it has not folded and it was not clearly struggling before Labour introduced VAT and upped NI 

 

“The introduction of VAT on independent school fees mid academic year, further compounded by the loss of charitable business rates relief and the increase in employers’ national insurance contributions, has put a great deal of pressure on parents and schools. Consequently, a number of Carrdus parents have been left with no alternative option but to give notice to withdraw their child from the school either at the end of the autumn term, or at the end of the academic year.”

 

“We are reviewing the future of Carrdus School following the government’s decisions to introduce VAT on parents’ school fees mid-way through the school year, remove charitable business rates relief and increase employers’ national insurance contributions.

 

https://www.schoolmanagementplus.com/uncategorized/isc-to-sue-government-over-vat-on-fees/

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Wrong again, it has not folded and it was not clearly struggling before Labour introduced VAT and upped NI 

 

“The introduction of VAT on independent school fees mid academic year, further compounded by the loss of charitable business rates relief and the increase in employers’ national insurance contributions, has put a great deal of pressure on parents and schools. Consequently, a number of Carrdus parents have been left with no alternative option but to give notice to withdraw their child from the school either at the end of the autumn term, or at the end of the academic year.”

 

“We are reviewing the future of Carrdus School following the government’s decisions to introduce VAT on parents’ school fees mid-way through the school year, remove charitable business rates relief and increase employers’ national insurance contributions.

 

https://www.schoolmanagementplus.com/uncategorized/isc-to-sue-government-over-vat-on-fees/

From the OP

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

So enrollment already below sustainable and falling further.

 

So yes, on the ropes.

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

From the OP

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

So enrollment already below sustainable and falling further.

 

So yes, on the ropes.

 

 

 

 

So yes, on the ropes.

 

Yes now and we all know why, you claimed "before", clearly being dishonest again

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Or just the last "straw that breaks the camels back"!

I would agree with that.

 

But obviously there were already significant problems.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So yes, on the ropes.

 

Yes now and we all know why, you claimed "before", clearly being dishonest again

Not dishonest Brian, just a different opinion based on available information.

 

On the bright side, the state sector is hiring teachers, the staff will find new jobs.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:55 AM by Chomper Higgot

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I would agree with that.

 

But obviously there were already significant problems.

 

Highlight these significant problems before, please provide a link to them

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Not dishonest Brian, just a different opinion based on available information.

 

On the bright side, the state se tor is hiring teachers, the staff will find new jobs.

Not dishonest Brian, just a different opinion based on available information.

 

The available information does not support your opinion, your opinion is false, misleading and a slur on the school.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Highlight these significant problems before, please provide a link to them

I did, refer highlighted text in post above, reposted here for your convenience:

 

 

From the OP

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not dishonest Brian, just a different opinion based on available information.

 

The available information does not support your opinion, your opinion is false, misleading and a slur on the school.

Yes it does, I just reposed some of it above.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I did, refer highlighted text in post above, reposted here for your convenience:

 

 

 

From the OP

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

 

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes it does, I just reposed some of it above.

 

 

No it does not. Here is that dishonesty again

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

No it does not. Here is that dishonesty again

Again, Brian I have expressed my opinion backed by the head of the schools statement that  ”the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number” 

 

Now you might disagree with my reading of the school head’s statement, but you have no reason to resort to allegations of dishonesty.

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Again, Brian I have expressed my opinion backed by the head of the schools statement that  ”the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number” 

 

Now you might disagree with my reading of the school head’s statement, but you have no reason to resort to allegations of dishonesty.

 

Falling because of the Labour budget...................jeez

 

Again you are spreading slurs about the management of the school. Have you bothered to read the latest inspection report? 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Falling because of the Labour budget...................jeez

 

Again you are spreading slurs about the management of the school. Have you bothered to read the latest inspection report? 

No brian.

 

Here’s the head’s statement again:

 

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

 

Contributing factors are:

 

VAT

Increase in NI

AND

Pupil numbers falling further below a sustainable number.

 

Student numbers already below sustainable numbers and falling further.

 

This on top of the Head’s other statement from the OP

 

“she stated. This timing has put many private schools under intense financial strain, particularly those with already declining enrollment rates.”

 

Very clearly the school was already struggling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No brian.

 

Here’s the head’s statement again:

 

 

 “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

 

Contributing factors are:

 

VAT

Increase in NI

AND

Pupil numbers falling further below a sustainable number.

 

Student numbers already below sustainable numbers and falling further.

 

This on top of the Head’s other statement from the OP

 

“she stated. This timing has put many private schools under intense financial strain, particularly those with already declining enrollment rates.”

 

Very clearly the school was already struggling.

 

 

Yes Chomper:

 

“We are reviewing the future of Carrdus School following the government’s decisions to introduce VAT on parents’ school fees mid-way through the school year, remove charitable business rates relief and increase employers’ national insurance contributions.

“This combination has put both huge pressure on the school’s finances and our families with a number of parents giving notice to withdraw their child from the school.

 

Another parent said: “We need to fight; this is a school that has been around hundreds of years collapsing due to Labour’s changes.”

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes Chomper:

 

“We are reviewing the future of Carrdus School following the government’s decisions to introduce VAT on parents’ school fees mid-way through the school year, remove charitable business rates relief and increase employers’ national insurance contributions.

“This combination has put both huge pressure on the school’s finances and our families with a number of parents giving notice to withdraw their child from the school.

 

Another parent said: “We need to fight; this is a school that has been around hundreds of years collapsing due to Labour’s changes.”

 

Yes as someone else says, the straw that broke the camel’s back, but clearly the back was already at breaking point.

 

I think the school has been around about 67 years.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:25 PM by Chomper Higgot

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes as someone else says, the straw that broke the camel’s back, but clearly the back was already at breaking point.

That comment was based on your misinformation and a direct response to your post and your further unsubstantiated claim that the back was at breaking point proves that you have no boundaries as to how far you spread false information

Edited yesterday at 12:29 PM by Bkk Brian

[blaze master]

On 11/12/2024 at 4:06 AM, Bkk Brian said:

If you have no doubt about that then you can easily provide a link to that. You can't though I know. Did you know there are plenty of fee paying schools suing the goverment over this? Did you know it is a human rights issue?

 

Provide a link for what ? For saying fee paying schools are non essential. 

 

And who cares about other schools suing the government. A human rights issue to attend private school eh ?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

Provide a link for what ? For saying fee paying schools are non essential. 

 

And who cares about other schools suing the government. A human rights issue to attend private school eh ?

A human rights issue to attend private school eh ?

 

Yes.

 

The action will be brought around Article 14, the prohibition of discrimination, and Article 2 of the First Protocol, the right to education.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98d3xr0290o

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

That comment was based on your misinformation and a direct response to your post and your further unsubstantiated claim that the back was at breaking point proves that you have no boundaries as to how far you spread false information

I don’t make statements on what constitutes the basis of other people’s posts.

Again you resort to allegations of spreading false information, and yet I have provided quotes from the school head confirming that enrollment had already fallen below a sustainable level and has now fallen further below the sustainable level.

 

You really should wind in your habit of accusing me of dishonesty when I have backed my statements with those of the head of school.