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On 11/22/2024 at 11:56 AM, chiang mai said:

 

"The department operates 12 regional revenue offices, 119 area revenue offices, and 850 area revenue branch offices throughout the country as well as 14 bureaus at its headquarters". 

 

Area offices are not always large but Jomtien appears to be larger than most. I will be very very surprised if there are no English speaking staff there.

 

Loads of Germans where I am but not a lot of German-speaking government office workers though.

 

I wonder why that is?

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28 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

That must be awfuly handy for the preponderance of farangs who can't speak the local lingo up there.

It as and they are very efficient and helpful.

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27 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Loads of Germans where I am but not a lot of German-speaking government office workers though.

 

I wonder why that is?

As they do not make it into the top ten of visitors into the country!

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On 11/20/2024 at 11:05 PM, Jingthing said:

I personally think it's a massive folly and basically asking for trouble to go out of your way to get into the tax system here by applying for a TIN at this time

 

I don't vehemently disagree because I can see your logic but I think you are wrong, and it is not in my view a "massive folly" to acquire a TIN. I have a TIN and as matters stand will not be submitting a tax return for 2024 because i will have not remitted any assessable income in 2024.But more to the point I do not think it likely, even remotely likely, that the TRD will be checking whether non working foreigners with a TIN have submitted returns.

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1 hour ago, chiang mai said:

German is not the sole national language of anywhere except Germany and Austria, neither is it regarded as the global language of business. English is widely spoken globally and is the language of business.

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

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2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.

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32 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

Why bring me into your stupid post?

PS;  On second thought please do not bother answering!

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On 11/20/2024 at 6:20 PM, Jingthing said:

Just for laughs, perhaps organize a super fun FLASH MOB where tens of thousands of local non -Thai speaking retired folks (do not bring Thai parners!), many in wheelchairs, some wheezing and coughing (no masks), all in beach wear, the vast majority will end up owing no tax anyway, to show up on one special day to demand their TINs! When they make it clear they don't speak English -- no promlema -- speak English MUCH LOUDER. Make incoherent hand gestures. Be sure the press including the INTERNATIONAL PRESS is notified. Good idea?


Great idea but you left out a certain group.

 

The men in lipstick, wigs and heels.

 

Surprised you left them out.  After all you believe in representation for all

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17 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Why bring me into your stupid post?

PS;  On second thought please do not bother answering!


 

ROLMAO

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22 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A simple question for the 2 posters who posted laughing emojis.

 

Can you please explain why you think the comment is funny?


LOL.

 

I thought 13 yo teenagers were the only ones infatuated with emojis.

Posted
18 hours ago, chiang mai said:

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.

 

I accept your views, but I believe that if one is going to live (and die) here, it is far, far easier to learn Thai and use it rather than play lucky-dip with the 'shy' locals. Life's to short for linguistic proselytism.

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18 hours ago, chiang mai said:

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.


English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

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On 11/22/2024 at 11:25 AM, chiang mai said:

This should come as little surprise, the further away you are from Bangkok, the less people understand about current events and the worse communication is between organisations that are headquartered in Bangkok. Is it any wonder that people who have asked questions at their TRD branch in Nakon Nowhere have been met with very different answers.

Well this may be true or not, but I rcvd an email from expattaxesthailand.com saying that they have learned that the Kasikorn bank anyway will send out emails to account holders asking for a mailing address for two forms needed to be filled out by the account holders and then sent to the bank prior to a later Dec date.  These forms are to enable the bank to carry out their responsibility of the CRS exchange of banking information.  That agency is also doing a webinar on how to fill out these two forms and one can register for the 29 November 1300 or 1 PM for those not familiar with times.  This agency also advises that they offer a FREE 15-min consultation for individuals or if one has particular questions, one can provide those to the agency prior to the Friday webinar and they will try to answer them at that time.  Just saying, but looks like the banks are moving towards ALL local account holders providing information to the banks I guess and if one does not participate in this exercise, the bank might close out that account IMHO.  I, although I am very familiar now (thanks to this forum and some helpful advice or information from many others on this forum) so while I may fill out the forms and forward them, I know that I have no taxes this year based on the current rules.  Best of luck to all.

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20 hours ago, G_Money said:


English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

And, unfortunately (based on the local school experiences of my 21-year old daughter), her schools (5 different ones) her English training was absolutely useless and if I hadn't worked with her she wouldn't have been able to do anything correctly in English.  Several of the schools after we enrolled her there, they started getting rid of farang English teachers - at least one of those schools hired filipino teachers for English).  We kept leaving to what we researched and found to be the "best" local school but that was futile also as the lessons were horrible and when I complained to the Thai English teachers, I was informed that the school director would not allow them to consult with the local farang English teachers nor were they allowed to change any of the lessons though I found almost half of each lesson had blatant errors and though I would correct those and return it to the Thai English teachers, they never corrected that lesson with the students.  Eventually we opted to move from BKK to CM and enrolled in a brand new extremely welll thought out features in the buildings that rivaled most American schools.  After the first year although we were offered a full year's tuition to stay there, I realized that it was still a "local" school and we enrolled in CM International school.  Best move ever and daughter progressed greatly not only in English but graduated speaking, writing,  reading and teaching in 4 languages, each with a different alphabet! Now she is in the #1 university here top 1% of her sophomore class, plus has already spent classes at the number 1 University in Korea during term breaks and received outstanding academic achievement award from there (the only one in her whole class there).  She hd been accepted at a US College but due to immigration delay for her mother to take her back there, she opted to do her studies here.  Glad she did for sure as she is doing her studies in foriegn  languages, and  plans graduate study  at Seoul in a couple of years.  Just saying as this has been my experience with Thai and Enlish teaching - while I studied Thai some 50 years ago and while I can still chat with them and read easily,  I have forgotten more than I can remember.  Life is still great here and hope it remains as it seems much of the other world is going crazy.

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20 hours ago, G_Money said:


English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

Yup the Thai National Curriculum says at p.252:

The foreign language constituting basic learning content that is prescribed for the entire basic education core curriculum is English, while for other foreign languages, e.g., French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Pali and languages of neighbouring countries, it is left to the discretion of educational institutions to prepare courses and provide learning management as appropriate.

 

The whole shebang can be downloaded here: http://act.ac.th/document/1741.pdf.

It's a beautiful world!

 

"Every high school graduate studies English for 12 years".

 

 

 

 

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Posted
On 11/24/2024 at 11:02 AM, G_Money said:

English is not taught at ALL schools.

Actually it is. It is often poorly taught, and even more often taught in a way that the students find it difficult to learn, by teachers who have little to no ability in speaking it, but it is part of the core curriculum.

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23 hours ago, chiang mai said:

Yup the Thai National Curriculum says at p.252:

The foreign language constituting basic learning content that is prescribed for the entire basic education core curriculum is English, while for other foreign languages, e.g., French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Pali and languages of neighbouring countries, it is left to the discretion of educational institutions to prepare courses and provide learning management as appropriate.

 

The whole shebang can be downloaded here: http://act.ac.th/document/1741.pdf.

It's a beautiful world!

 

"Every high school graduate studies English for 12 years".

 

 

 

 


 

Are you new to Thailand?  
 

Your post, only in theory and on paper.

 

The schools that do have some English curriculum are inadequate.

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The reality is that many students who took Eng in school cannot speak fluent Eng. That's because in every other class, they speak Thai and when they leave school they only speak Thai at home, so they don't get to practice. My stepdaughter who graduated University last year cannot speak Eng at all. I tried to get her to take it at University, but she didn't want to. That limits her job opportunities. So sad.

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8 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

I said all schools teach English, you said they do not. I supplied proof that they do, so now you've become abusive. There was no discussion about the effectiveness of that teaching or the degree of English proficiency that is achieved. Nor was there any discussion about the reticence of Thai's to practise their English in public with foreigners, those are different subjects.....just so you understand what the subject is that was being discussed. 


Have you witnessed this at every country/village school?

 

Don’t believe everything you read or hear in Thailand.

 

Are you aware prostitution is illegal in Thailand?  Just another example 

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I already have a TIN but guess i will file a return early 2025 to show my remitted income for 2024. Wonder how the tax office will cope (in Jomtien) with thousands of farang returns. Many in Chinese or Russian.

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2 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

I already have a TIN but guess i will file a return early 2025 to show my remitted income for 2024. Wonder how the tax office will cope (in Jomtien) with thousands of farang returns. Many in Chinese or Russian.

Returns must be in Thai or English.

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On 11/23/2024 at 3:39 PM, NanLaew said:

 

I gave them my alien ID number (from yellow tibian bahn and pink ID card). Depending on the horse coming before or after the cart, that could/would be my TIN if/when I get one.

 

....  giving them a fake number seems like a quicker way of kicking the can a shorther distance down the road.

 

 

If you have not already been provided a different Thai TIN, then providing your pink-ID # (with a caveat that it has not yet been activated for online tax submission) is NOT providing a fake TIN. 

 

Its the truth - which was confirmed to me by a Phuket RD official (when he assessed I did not 'qualify' for a separate Thai TIN nor any Thai TIN (yet) for that matter ) - but he also advised my pink-ID # for online tax submissions could be my TIN only after it was activated. 

 

Its the absolute best information you have at present time.

 

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On 11/21/2024 at 5:11 PM, anrcaccount said:

 

Not really a Catch 22 , just standard banking KYC. There are multiple ways to approach this. Let me give you 3: 

 

  • You can get a TIN ( agents start at 3000 THB for the service or you can try yourself) , and then provide it to your UK offshore Bank. That doesn't mean you need to pay any tax in Thailand, nor that you are liable for any tax. 
  • You can give your UK offshore bank any 13 digit number as your TIN. They will not do any validation on it. I'm not recommending this, but I do believe it would be possible, and IMO would be no further questions asked.
  • Some foreign banks will also accept 'Am tax resident but do not yet have a Tax number'. Yours may not, but many do. 

 

My offshore bank hounded me for my TIN number about 3 years ago. This goes a way to explaining why as I did not understand why it was so important to them at the time

Luckily I had a business here about 20 years ago , the clerk managed to find my file at City Hall, CM but it was in a cardboard box in  cellar. With many many other boxes...wonder how many others are down there

Posted
1 hour ago, G_Money said:


Have you witnessed this at every country/village school?

 

Don’t believe everything you read or hear in Thailand.

 

Are you aware prostitution is illegal in Thailand?  Just another example 

Our neice attends a country school, English and Chinese are part of the curriculum for all students 

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[email protected] advises that the following webinars are scheduled:

 28 Nov Tax planning update and strategies for American expats

 29 Nov CRS requests from Thai banks and filling out the forms

 5 Dec Tax on Superannuation and Australian Pensions in Thailand

12 Dec Tax planning Updates and strategies for British expats.

 good luck on taxation in Thailand to all expats

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8 hours ago, chiang mai said:

Our neice attends a country school, English and Chinese are part of the curriculum for all students 


 

Government or Private?


Next you will be claiming she is fluent in English due to the schools curriculum.

 

 

 

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