Russian RS-26 Rubezh ICBM delivering conventional MIRVs to the Dnipro region. 

"Putin's Bluffing - hit them with more Storm Shadows and ATACAMs.  GRRR!"

  Got Bunker?  Anyone want to revisit my poll about a nuclear war starting before the end of 2024?

So far, Putin seems to be showing a lot of restraint.  Giving Ukraine and their Western masters every opportunity to come to their senses. 

4 hours ago, jas007 said:

So far, Putin seems to be showing a lot of restraint.  Giving Ukraine and their Western masters every opportunity to come to their senses. 

I expected the destination to be Kiev, so it's more a message than a serious attack.

13 hours ago, jas007 said:

So far, Putin seems to be showing a lot of restraint.  Giving Ukraine and their Western masters every opportunity to come to their senses. 

 

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I expected the destination to be Kiev, so it's more a message than a serious attack.

Russian is walking the escalation ladder in a measured manner.  I imagine that hitting Kiev is another couple of steps up the escalator. The next response if the US/UK/France insists on continuing to launch their missiles (Ukraine is not launching them) will probably be a demonstration of more powerful conventional warheads.  If the West keeps pushing, then Russia hits Kiev and destroys the governmental infrastructure. 

This de-escalates by the West standing down on the missile launches.  Not sure they will do that.  And for all the pro-war fan-boys urging the US/UK/France on - if this sh*t continues we all die.  You morons can't grasp that. 

Absolute fvcking idiocy.  There arent enough of the missiles to do anything but be irritating. But...they CAN be used to escalate the war, to be an excuse for ever more bloodshed.  Whoever is running the US government is now bordering on criminal by doing this. President Biden forbade it for more than a year, yet suddenly now it is permitted? Utter stupidity, and an obvious attempt to sabotage the incoming Trump administration.

47 minutes ago, connda said:

This de-escalates by the West standing down on the missile launches.  Not sure they will do that.  And for all the pro-war fan-boys urging the US/UK/France on - if this sh*t continues we all die.  You morons can't grasp that. 

 At this point, it certainly doesn't appear as though there will be any movement towards standing down on the missile launches, especially by France and the UK. The US is definitely involved as well, but their involvement may well have a political component - sabotaging Trump.  So that's some hope. If Putin continues his patience, and if Trump makes it into office, then I can see a deal happening that would end the hostilities.  I'm not sure the US wants to annihilate humanity just because of an Eastern European squabble over Russia's border and NATO membership for Ukraine.  

 

As for all the "pro-war fanboys"? The rank and file of that group have been well and truly brainwashed by years of Western propaganda. And they don't comprehend the results of a nuclear war.  They think Russia and Putin are evil. And they're being told that Putin is "bluffing." Or, what's worse, the entire situation is not even part of what's reported as news. 

The new icbm did little damage as you can’t aim em at anything on the move ,expensive and brutal 

On 11/21/2024 at 8:51 PM, connda said:

ICBM

ICBM’s have never hurt anyone!

On 11/21/2024 at 8:51 PM, connda said:

Anyone want to revisit my poll about a nuclear war starting before the end of 2024?

No- it’s not going to happen this year or next. Please relax and enjoy your life.

On 11/22/2024 at 12:44 PM, jas007 said:

especially by France and the UK

 

They aren't worried.

 

Targets would be tank factories in Germany, and staging depots for wonder waffles in Poland.

1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said:

The new icbm did little damage as you can’t aim em at anything on the move ,expensive and brutal 

 

Tank factories, weapons depots, hydrothermal plants, ports, airstrips, bunkers, railyards,..............these are not particularly mobile.

Experimental expensive missile not in production yet

no good for ships 

On 11/22/2024 at 11:57 AM, connda said:

 

Russian is walking the escalation ladder in a measured manner.  I imagine that hitting Kiev is another couple of steps up the escalator. The next response if the US/UK/France insists on continuing to launch their missiles (Ukraine is not launching them) will probably be a demonstration of more powerful conventional warheads.  If the West keeps pushing, then Russia hits Kiev and destroys the governmental infrastructure. 

This de-escalates by the West standing down on the missile launches.  Not sure they will do that.  And for all the pro-war fan-boys urging the US/UK/France on - if this sh*t continues we all die.  You morons can't grasp that. 

Joe Bidens payback to America for electing Trump

Ukraine studies debris from new Russian ballistic missile

15:19 , Alexander Butler

Ukrainian investigators are studying the debris of a new Russian intermediate-range ballistic missile that was fired at the city of Dnipro on Thursday, the first time such a powerful weapon has been used in the war.

Reuters was among a small group of reporters given access to the wreckage of the missile on Sunday. Reporters were asked not disclose the exact location of the site for security reasons.

The scorched and crumbled pieces of debris were laid out in a hanger at a facility which conducts weapons forensics.

Ukrainian experts study such debris to gain insight into Russian military supply chains, production and how to develop counter-measures.

5 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Experimental expensive missile not in production yet

no good for ships 

 

How many aircraft carriers docked in Keeeve?

On 11/22/2024 at 5:57 PM, connda said:

And for all the pro-war fan-boys urging the US/UK/France on - if this sh*t continues we all die.  You morons can't grasp that. 

On that I am in agreement with you 100%.

 

Seems strange that they are still blathering on on AN instead of in a volunteer brigade in Kursk. I guess it's much better to let other people do the hard yards.

On 11/22/2024 at 6:44 PM, jas007 said:

Or, what's worse, the entire situation is not even part of what's reported as news. 

I doubt much qualifies as "news". IMO more likely opinion pieces.

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt much qualifies as "news". IMO more likely opinion pieces.

 Sure.  That's the way it works in 2024.  I suppose the daily weather report might be close to news and not merely opinion, but that's about it.  Or, reporting on things that actually happened.  Congress passes a bill, or Trump meets with Putin.  Otherwise, it's all carefully crafted web of lies, held together by censorship of contrary opinion.