The Decline of Free Speech: How the UK Became a Third-Class Nation

[NoshowJones]

18 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Is she the person who incited the low IQ far right rioters to set fire to the accommodation of terrified humans who had brown faces.

Here. I'll practice my access to free speech by saying that (if she is that awful woman) she got what she deserved!

I agree with Lucy Connolly's views, though I would be careful of saying anything about "setting fires" or "brown faces".

There are lots of people with brown faces doing important jobs in the UK, ie docters, nurses, etc, etc, there is no one more against illegals in the UK than me, ie people arriving and being put up in hotels at the taxpayers expense.

[NoshowJones]

17 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

For me, it became apparent that freedom of speech was under attack when a woman was prosecuted for highlighting a point of law. 

 

Judge defies High Court and orders police to arrest 11 for holding signs

People should have the right to hold protests as long as they are peaceful and not marching or causing any obstruction on the roads.

[NoshowJones]

15 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I say what I want and have never been arrested.

 

There has been a lot of whining about foreigners in the UK lately, a lot of hate directed towards them.

I prefer to be polite to them.

 

I believe people should be able to go wherever they want in the world. I chose to live in Thailand, my life, my choice. If people want to go to live in cold and miserable England, then good luck to them.

 

Yes people should be allowed to live in any country, as long as they are contributing to that country's economy and not being detrimental to the people of that country.

[Nick Carter icp]

18 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

For me, it became apparent that freedom of speech was under attack when a woman was prosecuted for highlighting a point of law. 

 

Judge defies High Court and orders police to arrest 11 for holding signs

 

   They were arrested for the same offence that Tommy Robinson was arrested for , i.e , protesting outside a sitting Court and they were  held for contempt of Court for trying to influence the outcome of that Court.

   So, you think that Tommy shouldn't have been arrested ?

[Nick Carter icp]

55 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

I agree with Lucy Connolly's views, though I would be careful of saying anything about "setting fires" or "brown faces".

There are lots of people with brown faces doing important jobs in the UK, ie docters, nurses, etc, etc, there is no one more against illegals in the UK than me, ie people arriving and being put up in hotels at the taxpayers expense.

 

   Lots of Asians with brown faces married to retired former ex-pats , now living in the UK

[John Drake]

12 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

Is it free speech when people are yelling out mis information, and out right lies

about the subject they are talking about?  Living in this new woke world, i am curious

about this aspect of people speaking in public, and lying.

 

Go to Stocktwits and Yahoo Finance Stock conversation boards. Lies are everywhere. And they actually cost people money. Comparatively speaking, political discussion boards are mild stuff.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, NoshowJones said:

People should have the right to hold protests as long as they are peaceful and not marching or causing any obstruction on the roads.

I'm not convinced anyone should have the right to hold protests.

 

[RuamRudy]

58 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They were arrested for the same offence that Tommy Robinson was arrested for , i.e , protesting outside a sitting Court and they were  held for contempt of Court for trying to influence the outcome of that Court.

   So, you think that Tommy shouldn't have been arrested ?

 

They were arrested because they peacefully held up a sign that stated a publicly listed aspect of English law.

If the law is scared of knowledge then there is something fundamentally wrong with the system. Maybe we revert to teaching law, medicine etc in Latin? That way we can really ensure that the hoi poloi are restricted from taking part in how our country is run.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

They were arrested because they peacefully held up a sign that stated a publicly listed aspect of English law.

If the law is scared of knowledge then there is something fundamentally wrong with the system. Maybe we revert to teaching law, medicine etc in Latin? That way we can really ensure that the hoi poloi are restricted from taking part in how our country is run.

 

   I very much expect that the Lawyers inside the Court room had knowledge of that law , its very likely that the Judge knows the law as well .

   Its against the law to have people standing outside courtrooms trying to influence  the Judges decision ot stating what laws are .

   Do you think that a Lawyer who studied law for 8 years would be unaware of what the law is ?

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I very much expect that the Lawyers inside the Court room had knowledge of that law , its very likely that the Judge knows the law as well .

 

Are you suggesting that knowledge of the law should be restricted to specific individuals? 

 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its against the law to have people standing outside courtrooms trying to influence  the Judges decision ot stating what laws are .

 

I don't think they were trying to influence the judge, but I am intrigued that you think it's illegal for someone to define the law. Can you highlight what law makes it illegal to make it public knowledge that a point of law exists? That sounds very kafkaesque, like something from a Joseph Heller novel. 

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Are you suggesting that knowledge of the law should be restricted to specific individuals? 

 

 

   I wasn't no .

Not sure how you came to that conclusion because my posts didn't suggest that at all . 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I don't think they were trying to influence the judge, but I am intrigued that you think it's illegal for someone to define the law. Can you highlight what law makes it illegal to make it public knowledge that a point of law exists? That sounds very kafkaesque, like something from a Joseph Heller novel. 

 

   You cannot stand outside Courts sending messages to the Judges and jury , that's contempt of Court .

   Lawyers inside the Court already know the law , Lawyers in Court do not learn the learn by people holding up placards outside the Court  telling them what the law is 

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You cannot stand outside Courts sending messages to the Judges and jury , that's contempt of Court .

   Lawyers inside the Court already know the law , Lawyers in Court do not learn the learn by people holding up placards outside the Court  telling them what the law is 

I have nothing but contempt for the British police, DPP and the British courts.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I have nothing but contempt for the British police, DPP and the British courts.

 

   Not everythings all about you though .

The whole World doesn't revolve around you 

[Thailand]

23 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I grew up in the UK in the 1940s and 1950s. In those days education, appearance, speech, behaviour, intelligence, law and order, and humour were all vastly superior to what you can see today. Very sad.

I agree, things are certainly darker than they were years ago!