Pink ID Card has your Tax ID number

[jwest10]

17 hours ago, MartinL said:

Years ago, my local tax office told me that, since I had no income from Thailand, there was no need to register for income tax. I left it at that.

 

Now, things are different and it's remittances into Thailand that are considered. I remit money into Thailand (of course) so I'll try to register.

 

My query - if I go to the local tax office and am again told, for whatever reason, that registration isn't necessary yet one day in the future the TRD says "You didn't register and now you owe LOTS of back taxes", what proof would I have that I attempted to register and was refused? Tax evasion is a serious offence and maybe non-registration is, too. IMO, lack of proof of attempted registration could lead to all sorts of <snip>!!

Not sure if I read it or via a so-called tax expert that if unlucky to be found that no form has been provided and thin 2K Baht fine but not sure!!

[bluemoonpattaya]

A taxpayer identification number is issued by the Revenue Department and comprises 10 digits.

However, a taxpayer who is an individual or a payer of income who is an individual is not required to apply for a TIN if he has and uses a personal identification number (PIN) in accordance with the civilian registration law. He can use his PIN instead of TIN for tax return filing purposes.

https://www.rd.go.th/english/21987.html

 

[Hummin]

On 11/26/2024 at 4:07 PM, CharlieH said:

 

Good job I stated the caveat on the OP then wasnt it.😀

TIT

[CharlieH]

Duplicate posts and response removed.

[bluemoonpattaya]

15 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Duplicate posts and response removed.

Thank you CharlieH,  problem with my mobile not updating web page.

[arick]

21 hours ago, MartinL said:

Years ago, my local tax office told me that, since I had no income from Thailand, there was no need to register for income tax. I left it at that.

 

Now, things are different and it's remittances into Thailand that are considered. I remit money into Thailand (of course) so I'll try to register.

 

My query - if I go to the local tax office and am again told, for whatever reason, that registration isn't necessary yet one day in the future the TRD says "You didn't register and now you owe LOTS of back taxes", what proof would I have that I attempted to register and was refused? Tax evasion is a serious offence and maybe non-registration is, too. IMO, lack of proof of attempted registration could lead to all sorts of <snip>!!

Why would you register who's going to know your transferring money a little bit of money here and there it's nothing to worry about stop being ridiculous.

[MartinL]

1 hour ago, arick said:

Why would you register who's going to know your transferring money a little bit of money here and there it's nothing to worry about stop being ridiculous.

You follow your path, I'll follow mine and that won't involve 'worrying' - just mild curiosity; "What if .....".

[TimF]

From what I understand Thai nationals can use their Blue ID number in lieu of a TIN - probably because in rural areas no one applies for a TIN. So I will Bury my head in the sand and assume I can use my pink ID number in lieu of a TIN

[oldcpu]

4 hours ago, TimF said:

From what I understand Thai nationals can use their Blue ID number in lieu of a TIN - probably because in rural areas no one applies for a TIN. So I will Bury my head in the sand and assume I can use my pink ID number in lieu of a TIN

 

I don't  consider it burying one's head in the sand.

 

I had a Thai RD official tell me the pink ID can be used as a tax ID ( for online tax returns) once it's activated to do so.

 

Like many, I am interested to know how the tax interpretation changes by the Thai RD will evolve.  It wouldn't surprise me if we learn more on this, in regards to pink ID number being treated ( or not) like Thai citizen ID number, for Thai TIN purposes,  from official sources , in the coming six months or so.

[Mutt Daeng]

21 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

Or maybe because you, like myself, obtained initial COVID jabs courtesy of the British Chambers of Commerce Thailand, rather than through official Thai channels?

No. My family's jabs (including mine) were organised by the Poo Yai Ban of our village.

[samtam]

On 11/28/2024 at 10:29 AM, bluemoonpattaya said:

A taxpayer identification number is issued by the Revenue Department and comprises 10 digits.

However, a taxpayer who is an individual or a payer of income who is an individual is not required to apply for a TIN if he has and uses a personal identification number (PIN) in accordance with the civilian registration law. He can use his PIN instead of TIN for tax return filing purposes.

https://www.rd.go.th/english/21987.html

 

 

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or a payer of income

 

I read your link, faithfully copied. I have no idea what a "payer of income" is. And even though your link is directly from RD, my local RD at Sathorn, Bangkok has informed me that my PIN is not going to be used as my TIN, and that I have to apply for one through LP10.1....confusion reigns supremely. I suspect this is all going to be a rather large up cockerel, come the witching hours between 1 January - 31 March 2025.