Trump's Legal Battles and Their Unintended Legacy of Backfiring

[Keep Right]

Interesting but 76,000,000 people do not seem to care or think the legal battles are a farce. Time will tell of course but I think game is over for the allegations. 

[herfiehandbag]

On 11/28/2024 at 10:18 AM, illisdean said:

constitutionally  illegal gag orders,

The gag orders were imposed to stop Trump from threatening jurors, witnesses and the families of the Judge.

 

On 11/28/2024 at 10:18 AM, illisdean said:

VERY biased left leaning supporting Biden judges, Total hoax, bogus indictments, made up crimes, barred by statute of limitations, fed misdemeanor crimes morphed into state felonies

The judges have bent over backwards to accommodate Trump. The indictments were in many of the cases a result of Grand Jury deliberations; the crimes for which he was charged and convicted ( by a jury remember) were crimes which could have been charged as either misdemeanors or felonies, the decision was taken to charge them as felonies.

 

You look forward and state "Trump's Department of Justice", and his "FBI Director" will prosecute and jail those who gained what were entirely proper convictions against him. That in itself more than hints that such prosecutions will be politically driven and a form of revenge. Of course everyone knows that to be the case, he has trumpeted that loud and often, and it is obviously what is driving his attempts to install his cronies in those posts - but perhaps ponder, such political prosecutions, if forced through, will be the "coup de grace" for an already greviously wounded judicial system.

 

Do you, or perhaps more pertinently 50% of the country, want to believe, and approve of the use of the FBI and the DOJ to get such blatant political revenge convictions?

 

You may, but I think most of the American public won't.

Edited Saturday at 02:02 PM by herfiehandbag

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

A great comeback by any measure, and well deserved after all the disgraceful attempts to eliminate him.

We got him this time vs Trump lies 

must be tied by now!

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Do you, or perhaps more pertinently 50% of the country, want to believe, and approve of the use of the FBI and the DOJ to get such blatant political revenge convictions?

Its not revenge, its administering rule of law justice. If you understand specific and general deterrence principles relating to crime prevention you might have a clue. If the prosecutors, state & federal colluded with the Biden and/or his WH counsel, then heads will roll, as they should. 

 

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

The judges have bent over backwards to accommodate Trump.

The bent over backwards to strip away his constitutional rights, commited Brady violations, destroyed attorney-client privilege and ruled against him on every objection and motion, planted and tampered with evidence in the MAL doc case, and changed statute of limitations laws to prosecute a bogus sex assault case from 27 years ago. The judges were biased and all handpicked to stack the deck against Trump but they all screwed up and failed. They

 

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Grand Jury deliberations;

miserably and instead of jailing him THEY GOT HIM ELECTED. LOL. Chew on that one a bit....taste good? Grand juries can indict a hand sandwich and consist ONLY of prosecution testimony with no defense challenges or rebuttal evidence. How about the jury verdict of a federal election misdemeanor morphed to a statute barred felony that no one knows what felony was committed?  Is that judges "bending over" or rather bending over the defendant?  You make no sense, are not able to articulate the circumstances and you got NOTHING. If you call rule of law justice as revenge then you need an exam of whats going on between your ears or maybe call your comrade at the politburo for guidance or maybe some more vodka. In closing, Bidens own DOJ made a prima facia case for Biden committing espionage by knowingly  possessing and sharing classified documents and actually selling them for his book deal but was deemed too mentally unfit to face indictment for crimes committed 20 years prior BUT he can remain in office as president despite his mental impairment. Think about that and thing double standard, two sets of rules, double standard BUT also factor in Trump had right to declassify ANY doc under the PRA whereas Biden did not. 

[illisdean]

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

what were entirely proper convictions against him

no they were not, read the case law, and try to define this mysterious "felony" no one can describe but one or 4 jurors may have issued a verdict on. I'll wait for this so called felony the jury ruled on. Don't forget the original statute barred misdemeanor campaign finance violations were not considered for prosecution by the DOJ, SDNY, and the election commission due to no indication of prosecutable violations but a "DOJ" prosecutor from bidens DOJ (M Collangelo) joined up in Manhattan prosectors office to morph a federal statute bared misdemeanor into an undefined state felony NOBODY wanted to prosecute 7 years prior even if they could have. LOL....give your head a shake.

Edited Saturday at 06:07 PM by illisdean

[impulse]

On 11/28/2024 at 4:04 PM, candide said:

You mean like the GOP Senate Committee which ridiculously failed after two years of fishing?

 

Failed?  If you read their reports, they have enough evidence to put Biden away for decades.  They just can't indict a sitting president without first impeaching him, which is a political process.  It would never happen with a Dem majority in the Senate. 

 

Once Joe becomes a private citizen, they can go after him with no holds barred.

 

[riclag]

17 hours ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting but 76,000,000 people do not seem to care or think the legal battles are a farce. Time will tell of course but I think game is over for the allegations. 

Face it! Trump could literally take Sen.

Schiff up to the top of the Capital building by the scruff if his pencil neck,

leave him there go back to Mara La go have dinner while the police investigate allegations of how Adam was exchanged for the statue figure on top. The only thing Trump is guilty of

is cleaning out the Swamp of Corruption in DC

 

[riclag]

17 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

I believe there is 38 countries plus/minus he cannot enter with his criminal record, maybe its waived being a President........

He has no criminal record!

Its has to be adjudicated!

Link the date it was officially adjudicated by the  sentencing judge!

 

[Lacessit]

On 11/28/2024 at 5:06 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Blew up in their faces, didn't it, KA BOOOM.

X 93

You find it humorous when criminals can get away with their crimes?

 

I'll bet you weren't laughing when a Thai woman took all your money.

Edited yesterday at 06:09 AM by Lacessit

[Lacessit]

17 hours ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting but 76,000,000 people do not seem to care or think the legal battles are a farce. Time will tell of course but I think game is over for the allegations. 

Jack Smith has asked for the charges to be dropped "without prejudice".

 

That means he can reinstate them after Trump's second term ends.

[candide]

8 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Failed?  If you read their reports, they have enough evidence to put Biden away for decades.  They just can't indict a sitting president without first impeaching him, which is a political process.  It would never happen with a Dem majority in the Senate. 

 

Once Joe becomes a private citizen, they can go after him with no holds barred.

 

In your alternate MAGA universe....😆

[candide]

13 hours ago, illisdean said:

Its not revenge, its administering rule of law justice. If you understand specific and general deterrence principles relating to crime prevention you might have a clue. If the prosecutors, state & federal colluded with the Biden and/or his WH counsel, then heads will roll, as they should. 

 

The bent over backwards to strip away his constitutional rights, commited Brady violations, destroyed attorney-client privilege and ruled against him on every objection and motion, planted and tampered with evidence in the MAL doc case, and changed statute of limitations laws to prosecute a bogus sex assault case from 27 years ago. The judges were biased and all handpicked to stack the deck against Trump but they all screwed up and failed. They

 

miserably and instead of jailing him THEY GOT HIM ELECTED. LOL. Chew on that one a bit....taste good? Grand juries can indict a hand sandwich and consist ONLY of prosecution testimony with no defense challenges or rebuttal evidence. How about the jury verdict of a federal election misdemeanor morphed to a statute barred felony that no one knows what felony was committed?  Is that judges "bending over" or rather bending over the defendant?  You make no sense, are not able to articulate the circumstances and you got NOTHING. If you call rule of law justice as revenge then you need an exam of whats going on between your ears or maybe call your comrade at the politburo for guidance or maybe some more vodka. In closing, Bidens own DOJ made a prima facia case for Biden committing espionage by knowingly  possessing and sharing classified documents and actually selling them for his book deal but was deemed too mentally unfit to face indictment for crimes committed 20 years prior BUT he can remain in office as president despite his mental impairment. Think about that and thing double standard, two sets of rules, double standard BUT also factor in Trump had right to declassify ANY doc under the PRA whereas Biden did not. 

More from the MAGA alternate universe....😅

[CANSIAM]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

He has no criminal record!

Its has to be adjudicated!

Link the date it was officially adjudicated by the  sentencing judge!

 

Postponed until 2028..........

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Postponed until 2028..........

President Vance will pardon any federal convictions.

[illisdean]

22 hours ago, candide said:

More from the MAGA alternate universe

read the court docs instead of languishing on your 3 word no response narrative about nothingness except the butt-hurt you experience when Trump wins and your beloved but feckless moronic failures on the left do what they do best....FAIL....FAILURE.....24/7.

[candide]

47 minutes ago, illisdean said:

read the court docs instead of languishing on your 3 word no response narrative about nothingness except the butt-hurt you experience when Trump wins and your beloved but feckless moronic failures on the left do what they do best....FAIL....FAILURE.....24/7.

And now you are trolling again... 😆

[illisdean]

10 minutes ago, candide said:

And now you are trolling again

change your meds fool, get your thumb out of your pie-hole and turn over from you fetal position. It may help you deal more effectively with your butt-hurt.....

 

All crying loser liberals have pronouns....What are your favorite pronouns? Butt & hurt by any chance? LOL.

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

On 11/28/2024 at 12:48 PM, Paul Henry said:

Don't forget Biden and his top administration people are now imune from all of Trumps threats. The imunity handed down by SCOTUS covers  both parties not just republicans. So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation.

"...more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation".

Really?  So who has he threatened with prosecution that is protected by that legislation? 

[candide]

7 minutes ago, illisdean said:

change your meds fool, get your thumb out of your pie-hole and turn over from you fetal position. It may help you deal more effectively with your butt-hurt.....

 

All crying loser liberals have pronouns....What are your favorite pronouns? Butt & hurt by any chance? LOL.

 

 

 

What crying?

Your trolling post looks all the more ridiculous as you've been crying for 4 years that the 2020 election had been stolen because of imaginary massive voter fraud! 😆

[transam]

16 minutes ago, illisdean said:

change your meds fool, get your thumb out of your pie-hole and turn over from you fetal position. It may help you deal more effectively with your butt-hurt.....

 

All crying loser liberals have pronouns....What are your favorite pronouns? Butt & hurt by any chance? LOL.

 

 

 

Get over her chap, move on, plenty more ladies out there..........😢

[illisdean]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation.

Ah grasshopper, was Biden president and subjected to presidential immunity while he was a senator AND private citizen for "knowingly possessing and sharing classified documents" as noted in the evidence presented by the DOJ SC Hur's report AND then selling these docs to a ghost writer for his book also while he was out of office both as senator when he stole documents and possessing them while out of office. Thats called espionage and he's afforded ZERO protection under the PRA (Presidential Records Act) because he wasn't POTUS when he stole HIGHLY classified materials.

 

If, on Trump's DOJ say so....Bidens gonna get indicted and carried off to fed supermax upon conviction even though someone at his DOJ deemed him too mentally incompetent to stand trial in 2024. How mentally impaired was he when he stole classified materials as a senator and VP?  LOL....a rule of law DOJ in search of justice could throw a big high hard one directly up Bidens scrawny feckless....you know the rest. And there are many known and documented cases of Hunter Biden committing state level felonies (not covered by Bidens fed pardon) in TX and other states that he could easily face indictments for.

[candide]

10 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Ah grasshopper, was Biden president and subjected to presidential immunity while he was a senator AND private citizen for "knowingly possessing and sharing classified documents" as noted in the evidence presented by the DOJ SC Hur's report AND then selling these docs to a ghost writer for his book also while he was out of office both as senator when he stole documents and possessing them while out of office. Thats called espionage and he's afforded ZERO protection under the PRA (Presidential Records Act) because he wasn't POTUS when he stole HIGHLY classified materials.

 

If, on Trump's DOJ say so....Bidens gonna get indicted and carried off to fed supermax upon conviction even though someone at his DOJ deemed him too mentally incompetent to stand trial in 2024. How mentally impaired was he when he stole classified materials as a senator and VP?  LOL....a rule of law DOJ in search of justice could throw a big high hard one directly up Bidens scrawny feckless....you know the rest. And there are many known and documented cases of Hunter Biden committing state level felonies (not covered by Bidens fed pardon) in TX and other states that he could easily face indictments for.

More from the MAGA alternate universe...😅

Edited 2 hours ago by candide

[Liverpool Lou]

13 minutes ago, illisdean said:

33 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation.

Ah grasshopper, was Biden president and subjected to presidential immunity while he was a senator AND private citizen for "knowingly possessing and sharing classified documents" as noted in the evidence presented by the DOJ SC Hur's report AND then selling these docs to a ghost writer for his book also while he was out of office both as senator when he stole documents and possessing them while out of office. Thats called espionage and he's afforded ZERO protection under the PRA (Presidential Records Act) because he wasn't POTUS when he stole HIGHLY classified materials.

 

If, on Trump's DOJ say so....Bidens gonna get indicted and carried off to fed supermax upon conviction even though someone at his DOJ deemed him too mentally incompetent to stand trial in 2024. How mentally impaired was he when he stole classified materials as a senator and VP?  LOL....a rule of law DOJ in search of justice could throw a big high hard one directly up Bidens scrawny feckless....you know the rest. And there are many known and documented cases of Hunter Biden committing state level felonies (not covered by Bidens fed pardon) in TX and other states that he could easily face indictments for.

A couple of things, first, you quoted me as posting "So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation", I did not say that, someone else did.  Don't misquote posters.

 

Secondly, I asked who Trump had threatened with prosecution that is covered by the immunity legislation but your irrelevant garbled thesis didn't  answer that, so why the attempted history lesson?

[illisdean]

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

A couple of things, first, you quoted me as posting "So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation", I did not say that, someone else did.  Don't misquote posters.

 

Secondly, I asked who Trump had threatened with prosecution that is covered by the immunity legislation but your irrelevant garbled thesis didn't  answer that, so why the attempted history lesson?

lol...after all that....you still GOT NOTHING. Feel better now....

 

No one cares about your rage ....deal with it.