The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: I worked it out by dividing the number of migrant who volunteered to removed to Rwanda under the Tory Government’s Rwanda scheme by the cost of that scheme. £700,000,000 / 4 = £175,000,000 per person. Did you attend school with Dianne Abbott ? You need to add in the cost of the Lawfare, that Labour was up to its neck in. Labour are responsible for half that £175,000,000 + per person. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, transam said: Has Labour now stopped the boats, I mean, they have had years to plan for it, or has the focus been shifted to attack the pensioners and farmers, and soon the bereaved........? I also notice that your leader, who has lied himself into the big chair, has had a change of personality, his true roots are coming to the fore... Something for you to comment on below........🤭 (PS. Don't come back and say it is not your Party).........😂 Labour are in the process of dealing with the migrant problem, refer positive improvements discussed above. I don’t comment on videos, this is a discussion forum. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, The Cyclist said: Did you attend school with Dianne Abbott ? You need to add in the cost of the Lawfare, that Labour was up to its neck in. Labour are responsible for half that £175,000,000 + per person. I attended a number of academic institutions, all of which pressed home the need to back up claims with credible evidence. So here’s your chance to show us how that’s done: “Labour are responsible for half that £175,000,000 + per person.” Let’s see you back that claim up with a credible link. 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour are in the process of dealing with the migrant problem, refer positive improvements discussed above. Hi Dianne No surprise that you think less than 700 gone and 20,000 arrived is a postive improvement. 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: I attended a number of academic institutions Ask for money back, you woz robbed Just now, The Cyclist said: Hi Dianne No surprise that you think less than 700 gone and 20,000 arrived is a postive improvement.
KannikaP Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: it’s vastly cheaper than the £175,000,000 per person the Tories spent 175 Million PER PERSON?
Nick Carter icp Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour did not oppose deportations, they opposed the immensely costly, ineffective and illegal Rwanda scheme. Labour getting g the job done without recourse to performative cruelty, stoking racism or stuffing wads of cash into the chums of Government ministers. Glad to see at least one member hear recognizing the positive achievements of this Labour Government. As I recall there were protests from other airplane flight passengers when people were being deported under the Tories . Other passengers stopped the deportations by causing a fuss on the flight . The solution to that is to get secret private flights and mass deportations . Throwing them out the Country without telling anyone is the solution to the problem of passengers complaining about deportations . I am getting to like this Starmer guy .
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, KannikaP said: 175 Million PER PERSON? Refer calculation and link above. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 15 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Hi Dianne No surprise that you think less than 700 gone and 20,000 arrived is a postive improvement. Forgive me for calling out your nonsense claim that: “Labour are responsible for half that £175,000,000 + per person.” I do understand why, in the face of an inability to back up your claims you resort to personal attacks. 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Throwing them out the Country without telling anyone is the solution to the problem of passengers complaining about deportations . I am getting to like this Starmer guy . Voluntary repatriations witha £3000 bung. No-one was thrown out. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, The Cyclist said: Voluntary repatriations witha £3000 bung. No-one was thrown out. You feel aggrieved because you missed out on the ‘throwing’? 1
KannikaP Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Refer calculation and link above. Please explain. That figure is totally incorrect/impossible.
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, KannikaP said: Please explain. That figure is totally incorrect/impossible. Refer this link and calculations in earlier post: 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The tip of the iceberg that was Tory incompetence and corruption. Hundreds of £millions of tax payer’s money pished away, and/or handed to chums. Meanwhile Labour successfully deporting hundreds of people who have no right to be in the UK: https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/prime-minister-rwanda-government-home-office-labour-b2606947.html 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: I do understand why, in the face of an inability to back up your claims you resort to personal attacks. Dont flatter yourself. I am waiting on the benefit of your Academia, to explain, how 649 repatriations against 20,000 arrivals, since July, is a step in a positive direction. It shouldn't be a hard task for someone who likes to boast about the Institutions they have attended. Whilst you are blinding us with science, could you also regale us with how many Hotels Labour have requisitioned for illegals since July and at what cost ? 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Voluntary repatriations witha £3000 bung. No-one was thrown out. About 75 % left voluntarily , 25 % were forced to go . Imagine that : Getting a dingy over to the UK , getting free food and lodging in a 4 star hotel for a few years and then getting a free flight to Brazil with 3 G in your sky rocket . 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: About 75 % left voluntarily , 25 % were forced to go . Imagine that : Getting a dingy over to the UK , getting free food and lodging in a 4 star hotel for a few years and then getting a free flight to Brazil with 3 G in your sky rocket . It appears that the majority were expired visas, so no dinghies or 4 start hotels. There is a precedent with Brazilians, his name was Jean Chalres de Menezes, overstaying his visa didn'tnwork out too well for him. 1
JTXR Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 It was a cynical, immoral and illegal scheme anyway and it's good it bit the dust. 1 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: It appears that the majority were expired visas, so no dinghies or 4 start hotels. There is a precedent with Brazilians, his name was Jean Chalres de Menezes, overstaying his visa didn'tnwork out too well for him. Brazil is just one of the locations where they were deported to , there are numerous other countries where they have been sent to
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 12 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Dont flatter yourself. I am waiting on the benefit of your Academia, to explain, how 649 repatriations against 20,000 arrivals, since July, is a step in a positive direction. It shouldn't be a hard task for someone who likes to boast about the Institutions they have attended. Whilst you are blinding us with science, could you also regale us with how many Hotels Labour have requisitioned for illegals since July and at what cost ? Who said it was? 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: About 75 % left voluntarily , 25 % were forced to go . Imagine that : Getting a dingy over to the UK , getting free food and lodging in a 4 star hotel for a few years and then getting a free flight to Brazil with 3 G in your sky rocket . I’m sure you imagine a lot of things. 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Who said it was? You did, right here 47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour are in the process of dealing with the migrant problem, refer positive improvements discussed above. I will ask you again, in what weird world of academia is 649 repatriations against 20,000 illegal arrivals a positive improvement ? A net increase of some 19, 341 is neither dealing with the problem or making positive improvements. And only an utter lunatic would try to spin it as a positive. 1
scottiejohn Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: I worked it out by dividing the number of migrant who volunteered to removed to Rwanda under the Tory Government’s Rwanda scheme by the cost of that scheme. £700,000,000 / 4 = £175,000,000 per person. Refer links I provided above. Your links? A tad misleading dividing the whole costs and then dividing by 4! A total of £715 million was spent on the Rwanda deportation scheme, a cost breakdown of the plan has shown. Among the costs outlined are £290 million paid to Rwanda’s government, £50 million on flights, escorting, airfield preparations and police force costs, and £95 million on detention and reception centres over a period between 2022 and June 2024. Other spending, including on setting up new IT systems, legal costs, and staffing, added up to £280 million. £715 million spent on scrapped Rwanda deportation scheme, breakdown reveals
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: A tad misleading dividing the whole costs and then dividing by 4! A total of £715 million was spent on the Rwanda deportation scheme, a cost breakdown of the plan has shown. Among the costs outlined are £290 million paid to Rwanda’s government, £50 million on flights, escorting, airfield preparations and police force costs, and £95 million on detention and reception centres over a period between 2022 and June 2024. Other spending, including on setting up new IT systems, legal costs, and staffing, added up to £280 million. £715 million spent on scrapped Rwanda deportation scheme, breakdown reveals And 4 deportations achieved at that combined cost. But yes, more than £700,000,000 a whole £15,000,000 more. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 hour ago, The Cyclist said: There is a precedent with Brazilians, his name was Jean Chalres de Menezes, overstaying his visa didn'tnwork out too well for him. Why would you mention Charles De Menezes ? He was the Brazilian man who got shot dead by UK Police after they mistook him for an Arab terrorist . Why did you mention him ? 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Why would you mention Charles De Menezes ? A rather obvious precedent of Brazilians overstaying their Visa's to remain in the UK. Not limited to Brazilians, of course. It is rampant in the UK. Along with false marriage visas, false education visas, false employment visas. Been going on for decades, and the 2 main Political Parties share the blame for not getting to grips with it. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 50 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: A tad misleading dividing the whole costs and then dividing by 4! A total of £715 million was spent on the Rwanda deportation scheme, a cost breakdown of the plan has shown. Among the costs outlined are £290 million paid to Rwanda’s government, £50 million on flights, escorting, airfield preparations and police force costs, and £95 million on detention and reception centres over a period between 2022 and June 2024. Other spending, including on setting up new IT systems, legal costs, and staffing, added up to £280 million. £715 million spent on scrapped Rwanda deportation scheme, breakdown reveals 4 being the number of ‘migrants’ deported by the £715,000,000 scheme to deport migrants. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Why would you mention Charles De Menezes ? He was the Brazilian man who got shot dead by UK Police after they mistook him for an Arab terrorist . Why did you mention him ? Just to be offensive would be my guess. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, The Cyclist said: A rather obvious precedent of Brazilians overstaying their Visa's to remain in the UK. Not limited to Brazilians, of course. It is rampant in the UK. Along with false marriage visas, false education visas, false employment visas. Been going on for decades, and the 2 main Political Parties share the blame for not getting to grips with it. Its not a precedent at all, as it was a one off mistake . There have been clampdowns of fasle education visas and marriage visas and its been made difficult for illegal people to remain in the U.K.
transam Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour are in the process of dealing with the migrant problem, refer positive improvements discussed above. I don’t comment on videos, this is a discussion forum. Of course, you don't, and of course Labour are dealing with it.........😂 3,000,000 signatures say different, chap...............🤔
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just to be offensive would be my guess. You thought wrong 5 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: A rather obvious precedent of Brazilians overstaying their Visa's to remain in the UK. Not limited to Brazilians, of course. It is rampant in the UK. Along with false marriage visas, false education visas, false employment visas. Been going on for decades, and the 2 main Political Parties share the blame for not getting to grips with it. You would probably think it was offensive, if I said, if he had not overstayed his visa, he would not have been on the train and would not have been shot in the head. A fact, probably not a nice fact, but a fact nonetheless. 1
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