Here we go. Mega MAGA Mess is coming. Is SS, MediCare etc gone... soon?

[Lacessit]

16 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Kind of similar to what went down with Biden right ?

 

I,remember quite vividly how adamant posters like you were about how tippy top Biden was. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

 

Biden was quite cogent when he gave his State of the Union address. Trump got him confused in the debate.

 

To say he was doolally for his entire presidency is drawing the longest of long bows.

 

The right conveniently forgets Biden surrounded himself with competent advisers. Trump is repeating history by appointing toadies and yes-men.

 

We all know what a sh!tshow that turned out to be the first time. Perish the thought you should admit it, though.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Biden's a felon

How?

I did not post that, why did you misquote me?  This is what I posted...

"Biden's a felon as well as a liar and a "grafter" [sic]?! ".   That's a question, not a statement.  

[blaze master]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Biden was quite cogent when he gave his State of the Union address. Trump got him confused in the debate.

 

To say he was doolally for his entire presidency is drawing the longest of long bows.

 

The right conveniently forgets Biden surrounded himself with competent advisers. Trump is repeating history by appointing toadies and yes-men.

 

We all know what a sh!tshow that turned out to be the first time. Perish the thought you should admit it, though.

 

No he wasn't cogent he was probably doped up. The fact you even say that shows how far gone you are.

 

Competent advisors ? You mean like the ones who allowed him to fall mentally into a total state ? Those ones. 

 

Show me a ticket that doesn't put in yes men. 

 

I think you are not speaking of Tom Houlton right ? The border guy who is a hold over from the Obama admin. 

 

 

[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Stop lying. The vast majority did  NOT vote for Trump. 

 

You man be correct for once.

 

I suspect the vast majority voted "NOT Harris, anyone but Harris!"

[GypsyT]

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Trump is 78 - old timer

 

Same applies to Trump.

Thanks!

That may save our bacon.

[GypsyT]

52 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Trump won by a landslide.  312

Yes, he did.

Many in south believed in him so much they voted TWICE!

 

[RichardColeman]

13 hours ago, GypsyT said:

“We’re gonna have to have some hard decisions. We’re gotta bring the Democrats in and talk about Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare,” McCormick said. “There’s hundreds of billions of dollars to be saved and we know how to do it. We just have to have the stomach to actually take those challenges on.”

Another sore loser. Lets put what the democrats have done into perspective. I think it was somewhere like Denver recently published annual budget figures. 8% of their budget went on migrants - it totally about $7900 odd per migrant, call it 8000, Dementia Joe let on something like 20,000,000 illegals - you times that by 8,000 dollars and you get what 160,000,000,000 dollars wasted on illegal migrants. Imagine what 160 billion dollars could do for social security ? Typical democrat perspective , we made a mess, but let's forget that. You want better social security, fine deport 20 million illegals ! 

[NoDisplayName]

US Debt                                     $36,183,000,000.000

US Unfunded Liabilities        $123,278,290,000,000

 

https://usadebtclock.com/

 

[NoDisplayName]

• The Biden administration rang up a budget topping $1.8 trillion in fiscal 2024, up more than 8% from the previous year and the third highest on record.
• Interest expense for the year totaled $1.16 trillion, the first time that figure has topped the trillion-dollar level.

 

Interest expense for the year totaled $1.16 trillion, the first time that figure has topped the trillion-dollar level. Net of interest earned on the government’s investments, the total was a record $882 billion, the third-largest outlay in the budget, outstripping all other items except Social Security and health care.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/18/us-deficit-tops-1point8-trillion-in-2024-as-interest-on-debt-surpasses-trillion-dollar-mark.html

 

"are we winning yet, mommy?"

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

58 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

No he wasn't cogent he was probably doped up. The fact you even say that shows how far gone you are.

 

Competent advisors ? You mean like the ones who allowed him to fall mentally into a total state ? Those ones. 

 

Show me a ticket that doesn't put in yes men. 

 

I think you are not speaking of Tom Houlton right ? The border guy who is a hold over from the Obama admin. 

 

 

Probably doped up? Your opinion, unbacked by any evidence.

 

Given Trump shows complete reluctance to release any medical records, how many pills do you think he's popping?

 

There are yes men, and there are yes sir how high men. Biden lost 2 cabinet level people via retirement in his tenure. Trump lost 14, many by firings when they did not say yes.

 

https://www.govexec.com/management/2024/03/biden-administration-has-far-less-turnover-trump-does-impact-agency-performance/395271/

[TedG]

9 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Please explain how imposing tariffs and cutting taxes will improve the USA's budget mess.

Please explain how imposing tariffs and cutting taxes have anything to do with the OP's post.   Do you know Social Security has run a deficit since 2010?   Do you know that Social Security accounts for 21% of the federal budget?   Do you know that Medicare/Medicaid/ACA/CHIPS accounts for 24% of the federal budget?  Add in welfare with 545 billion or 8% of the federal budget.  These programs consume 53% of the federal budget. 

[john donson]

how to save a trillion dollars a year ?   import meds from canada, mexico, where prices are not 10x more expensive, because US government allowed it.. by bribing the senate or congress for a few hundred thousand dollars a piece of garbage politicians

[spidermike007]

20 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Most members of Congress would rather not do anything to hurt their chances of getting reelected.  That includes members of both parties.

I rather doubt there will be any drastic cuts anywhere.

When you consider that Trump added $7.1 trillion to the deficit last time around, I think it is safe to call this election campaign hyperbole. 

[mdr224]

If anyone touched social security or medicare it would have been the democrats

[spidermike007]

Many of his supporters have no idea who he really is. They just liked his rhetoric and bought his schtick. Many will be very surprised when the real guy surfaces. He is an utter incompetent. 

[Eric Loh]

9 hours ago, TedG said:

Please explain how imposing tariffs and cutting taxes have anything to do with the OP's post.   Do you know Social Security has run a deficit since 2010?   Do you know that Social Security accounts for 21% of the federal budget?   Do you know that Medicare/Medicaid/ACA/CHIPS accounts for 24% of the federal budget?  Add in welfare with 545 billion or 8% of the federal budget.  These programs consume 53% of the federal budget. 

Most universal healthcare and social security in the world need government expenditures to subsidize their operational needs. It’s the government responsibilities to take care of the health and social well being of their people. The programs may need to be revamped to ensure efficiency in dispensing the benefits and customer service deficiencies; not cutting the benefits to the needy. 

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Most universal healthcare and social security in the world need government expenditures to subsidize their operational needs. It’s the government responsibilities to take care of the health and social well being of their people. The programs may need to be revamped to ensure efficiency in dispensing the benefits and customer service deficiencies; not cutting the benefits to the needy. 

A complete overhaul is in order.  The reimbursements to Medicare providers are already low and yet Medicare continues to lower them.

Another trick used is "provider cutback."  For many doctors this is becoming unsustainable.  They cannot continue in practice by being grossly underpaid. 

This is just one of the areas that need major surgery.

(SEE MY NEXT POST)

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Most universal healthcare and social security in the world need government expenditures to subsidize their operational needs. It’s the government responsibilities to take care of the health and social well being of their people. The programs may need to be revamped to ensure efficiency in dispensing the benefits and customer service deficiencies; not cutting the benefits to the needy. 

U.S. hospitals, by law, are not allowed to refuse patients and this includes their emergency rooms.  Because of this, quite a few patients are showing up at emergency rooms for reasons that are not real emergencies.  They abuse this privilege because they don't want to bother making an appointment with their PCP and stand in line like every one else.  This common practice needs to be addressed as it is causing a lot unnecessary costs.  Not to discriminate, but it seems most of these abusers are the so-called needy.

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

U.S. hospitals, by law, are not allowed to refuse patients and this includes their emergency rooms.  Because of this, quite a few patients are showing up at emergency rooms for reasons that are not real emergencies.  They abuse this privilege because they don't want to bother making an appointment with their PCP and stand in line like every one else.  This common practice needs to be addressed as it is causing a lot unnecessary costs.  Not to discriminate, but it seems most of these abusers are the so-called needy.

Ya mean like 11 million illegal criminal aliens with all the nasty diseases they catch in their third world lives?

 

The Age of Reason is returning. Secular Religions like Socialism will give way to free thinking again.

[Hawaiian]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

When you consider that Trump added $7.1 trillion to the deficit last time around, I think it is safe to call this election campaign hyperbole. 

Is this what you are referring to?    Spending and cutting services are not the same thing.    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/may/22/hakeem-jeffries/did-donald-trump-rack-up-more-debt-than-ant-other/

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

A complete overhaul is in order.  The reimbursements to Medicare providers are already low and yet Medicare continues to lower them.

Another trick used is "provider cutback."  For many doctors this is becoming unsustainable.  They cannot continue in practice by being grossly underpaid. 

This is just one of the areas that need major surgery.

(SEE MY NEXT POST)

There are inefficiencies in Medicare that need a bipartisan approach to find solutions not a sledge hammer approach to cut benefits. 
 

Agree that there are abuses including the needy and also by Medicare providers and suppliers. Improper billings and even physicians referring patients to services that they have financial interests or hospitals offering incentives to physicians to relocate to their area. 
 

Beggars that question whether Elon and Vivek are the right choice to address this social issue. 

 

 

 

 

[Hawaiian]

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

There are inefficiencies in Medicare that need a bipartisan approach to find solutions not a sledge hammer approach to cut benefits. 
 

Agree that there are abuses including the needy and also by Medicare providers and suppliers. Improper billings and even physicians referring patients to services that they have financial interests or hospitals offering incentives to physicians to relocate to their area. 
 

Beggars that question whether Elon and Vivek are the right choice to address this social issue. 

 

 

 

 

$100 billion is a conservative estimate of annual Medicare fraud.

Experts say it is considerably more.  This alone requires some serious work.  Using the sledge hammer example is a tad extreme.  If you read my previous posts I am not proposing cuts.

At least we agree there is a lot of work to do. 

[Lancelot01]

On 12/4/2024 at 1:29 PM, Hawaiian said:

Most members of Congress would rather not do anything to hurt their chances of getting reelected.  That includes members of both parties.

I rather doubt there will be any drastic cuts anywhere.

Career politicians. It's my job. Keep my salary and golden pension coming. 

[John Drake]

21 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

I am wrong at times as well. Did a single one of them come on this forum and admit they were wrong ?

 

Where is the dman with a  wrong prediction when you need him. 

 

Well, I'm not left. At all. But I did predict, repeatedly, that Harris would win. I then admitted I was wrong and did so in several topics. BTW, where's Placeholder?

[AlexRich]

23 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

There's your problem right there. You still watch TV.

 

What a laugh. 

Yeah, I should really be on 8chan reading what Q has to say? 

[mogandave]

So what are all the leftists going to say when their precious benefits don’t get cut? 

[Yellowtail]

On 12/4/2024 at 6:08 PM, Lacessit said:

Biden was quite cogent when he gave his State of the Union address. Trump got him confused in the debate.

 

To say he was doolally for his entire presidency is drawing the longest of long bows.

 

The right conveniently forgets Biden surrounded himself with competent advisers. Trump is repeating history by appointing toadies and yes-men.

 

We all know what a sh!tshow that turned out to be the first time. Perish the thought you should admit it, though.

Only leftists know what a <deleted>show Trump's first term was. Everyone else thought it went pretty good. 

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

Yeah, I should really be on 8chan reading what Q has to say? 

 

No,that's just silly. You're much better suited for blueanon.

[Lacessit]

14 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

No,that's just silly. You're much better suited for blueanon.

I am wondering how many Ayn Rand disciples are on this thread.

[blaze master]

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am wondering how many Ayn Rand disciples are on this thread.

 

Most of the hateful 8 from this forum gave up their faith on Nov 5.

 

God bless them.