Do you know what your tyres are telling you ?

[CharlieH]

 

 

[watchcat]

Not really, but I'd like to know when they're manufactured  thanks

[KannikaP]

Toyota Servicing would not rotate the tyres on my Vigo, saying they were over 5 years old but only 60k kms on them, tread depth fine.

Maxxiss, where I bought them, said there is 5-10k more left in them, rotated them no problem. 

[CharlieH]

43 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Toyota Servicing would not rotate the tyres on my Vigo, saying they were over 5 years old but only 60k kms on them, tread depth fine.

Maxxiss, where I bought them, said there is 5-10k more left in them, rotated them no problem. 

Not always about tread depth.

Road noise and comfort, to say nothing of handling, can all be significantly effected by "hard" tyres, which is what happens in the consustent Thai heat. The tyres become alot harder less flexible but look OK.

That's my experience, when I changed mine for new soft flexible rubber the difference was very noticeable, despite the old tyres (6 years) appearing ok.

[Hummin]

For safety, new quality rubber is always best. 

 

5 years is maximum I would use my tires in Thailand no matter treads left. 

 

 

 

 

[NickyLouie]

53 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Toyota Servicing would not rotate the tyres on my Vigo, saying they were over 5 years old but only 60k kms on them, tread depth fine.

Maxxiss, where I bought them, said there is 5-10k more left in them, rotated them no problem. 

 

Sherm, 5 years is the lifespan on tires here in TH.

 

 

[Yagoda]

My tires tell me that they are Speed Rated Michelin Pilot Supersports, should not be driven in the rain, snow or temperatures near 0C, that they go through a digital tire pressure check every time they are driven and that I will be whipping out my credit card for new every 10,000 miles

[phetphet]

i bought a couple of new Dunlop tyres off Lazada because they were cheap. When being fitted, big chunks came off one. The mechanic said they wer four years old, and had become brittle due to the heat.

 

Had four new ones fitted and the mechanic wrote the car mileage (Kms) on a card to give me, and said come back after 10,000kms and we will rotate the tyres.

[KannikaP]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

My tires tell me that they are Speed Rated Michelin Pilot Supersports, should not be driven in the rain, snow or temperatures near 0C, that they go through a digital tire pressure check every time they are driven and that I will be whipping out my credit card for new every 10,000 miles

On which vehicle are these tYres fitted, and what type of journeys do you do.

If they need replacing after 10000 km, they, or your driving style are rubbish..

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, phetphet said:

i bought a couple of new Dunlop tyres off Lazada because they were cheap. When being fitted, big chunks came off one. The mechanic said they wer four years old, and had become brittle due to the heat.

 

Had four new ones fitted and the mechanic wrote the car mileage (Kms) on a card to give me, and said come back after 10,000kms and we will rotate the tyres.

Maxxiss do that for me, every 10k km, and have done 5 times already.

[Yagoda]

45 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

On which vehicle are these tYres fitted, and what type of journeys do you do.

If they need replacing after 10000 km, they, or your driving style are rubbish..

10,000 miles not kms, US highway driving

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

My tires tell me that they are Speed Rated Michelin Pilot Supersports, should not be driven in the rain, snow or temperatures near 0C, that they go through a digital tire pressure check every time they are driven and that I will be whipping out my credit card for new every 10,000 miles

 

Michelin say they have next-level exhilarating dry handling and wet grip.... kinda need rain for the wet grip part !

[KannikaP]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

10,000 miles not kms, US highway driving

Er, that's still only 16000 KM! And isn't US Highway speed limit 55 mph?

[Yagoda]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Er, that's still only 16000 KM! And isn't US Highway speed limit 55 mph?

70. That gives you rural up to 120 flat out. plus lots of 80mph traffic zipping.

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

70. That gives you rural up to 120 flat out. plus lots of 80mph traffic zipping.

I'll stick to  90/120 km/h on Thai roads and get 4 times more out of my tYres.

You didn't say what vehicle you were hammering.

[CharlieH]

Troll ridiculous comment and subsequent replies removed.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

so the part of your post about not to be driven in rain is just bullsh1t then ?

Never really checked since I got my first pair, but never driven in any rain regardless since my last 4 cars were never driven in the rain.

Just now, KannikaP said:

What's that in English please?

 

Used, mismatched leakers screaming for air.

[Ralf001]

3 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I'll stick to  90/120 km/h on Thai roads and get 4 times more out of my tYres.

 

My work commute pickup, I run Nitto 420D's (275/55R20)

 

Rarely do they see under 120km/h on the motorway (Mon to fri 150km round commute each day) and they have 60,000 km on them thus far.... I reckon i'll get another 15k outta them.

 

I doubt they would go 240,000+ if I stayed under 120km/h.

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

I doubt they would go 240,000+ if I stayed under 120km/h.

I doubt that ANY set of tYres would be good for 240K km/miles at ANY speed.

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

I doubt that ANY set of tYres would be good for 240K km/miles at ANY speed.

you is smart aye.

[xylophone]

On 12/14/2024 at 8:36 AM, CharlieH said:

Not always about tread depth.

Road noise and comfort, to say nothing of handling, can all be significantly effected by "hard" tyres, which is what happens in the consustent Thai heat. The tyres become alot harder less flexible but look OK.

That's my experience, when I changed mine for new soft flexible rubber the difference was very noticeable, despite the old tyres (6 years) appearing ok.

 

Some good points in that post Charlie, and as I was getting worried about my tyres, despite the fact my Suzuki has only done 44,000 km, I decided to take my car to B-Qik to get them checked, and imagine my surprise when one of the fitting guys told me that the back tyres were 11 years old, and the front tyres were about six years old (I do recall getting a couple of new front tyres a few years ago).

 

The tread depth was actually average to good on all of them, but I decided to go the whole hog and get a new set of Goodyear tyres fitted all round, but before they did that they took me into the office and asked me which wheel types I wanted????? It appears that they were prepared to change the alloy wheels along with the tyres which I thought was rather strange because I had the original Suzuki alloys, which were in perfect order.

 

According to the fitter, it is quite common to change the wheels and the tyres at the same time, and this whole exercise would only cost me another 3500 baht, so I considered it, but then again I wanted to keep the original Suzuki alloys so I declined that offer and asked them to go ahead and just fit the tyres, which they did, and I drove home happy, and as noted in Charlie's post, I'm sure the road handling and ride was different with these new tyres on!

 

I had a new battery fitted at the same time so I'm hoping that this little Suzuki Swift will last me for many years to come.

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

 

Some good points in that post Charlie, and as I was getting worried about my tyres, despite the fact my Suzuki has only done 44,000 km, I decided to take my car to B-Qik to get them checked, and imagine my surprise when one of the fitting guys told me that the back tyres were 11 years old, and the front tyres were about six years old (I do recall getting a couple of new front tyres a few years ago).

 

The tread depth was actually average to good on all of them, but I decided to go the whole hog and get a new set of Goodyear tyres fitted all round, but before they did that they took me into the office and asked me which wheel types I wanted????? It appears that they were prepared to change the alloy wheels along with the tyres which I thought was rather strange because I had the original Suzuki alloys, which were in perfect order.

 

According to the fitter, it is quite common to change the wheels and the tyres at the same time, and this whole exercise would only cost me another 3500 baht, so I considered it, but then again I wanted to keep the original Suzuki alloys so I declined that offer and asked them to go ahead and just fit the tyres, which they did, and I drove home happy, and as noted in Charlie's post, I'm sure the road handling and ride was different with these new tyres on!

 

I had a new battery fitted at the same time so I'm hoping that this little Suzuki Swift will last me for many years to come.

we changed out our wheels on out swift at the start of the year and got 7x16 wheels with 205/50 16 michelin pilot sport 4. the tires were like 20K  set but the grip is so good in wet and dry. Yes after about 40K on the swift, the tires get hard and more noisy. Its worth changing them at that point. 

[dddave]

On 12/14/2024 at 8:36 AM, CharlieH said:

Not always about tread depth.

Road noise and comfort, to say nothing of handling, can all be significantly effected by "hard" tyres, which is what happens in the consustent Thai heat. The tyres become alot harder less flexible but look OK.

That's my experience, when I changed mine for new soft flexible rubber the difference was very noticeable, despite the old tyres (6 years) appearing ok.

I once bought a 2nd hand motorcycle that had sat in a barn for 5 to 10 years.  The tires looked like they were new, still had the molding tags. I went out for my first ride fortunately not going very fast.  A sudden lurch, then grinding and near loss of control.  The rear tire  was so hard and brittle, it had completely broken off the rim.  I was pretty lucky and a lesson learned about what age can do to tires.

[Hummin]

On 12/14/2024 at 10:00 AM, KannikaP said:

I'll stick to  90/120 km/h on Thai roads and get 4 times more out of my tYres.

You didn't say what vehicle you were hammering.

My Pirelli Diablo Rosso tires gave me 6k km on my motorbike. Depends on your rubber, not how you necessary riding or driving your motorbike or car. Soft good tires with grip for all conditions do not  last as long as tires built for longevity