How the Woke Turned a Suspected Killer Into a Cultural Icon

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oddly no actual sympathizing, just a headline with a quote of the very reasonable observation ‘people can only be pushed so far’.

 

Let us know when you have a statement from Pelosi sympathizing with the killer.

Ho hum, your opinion differs from the article and the author who indeed say it was sympathizing. Perhaps you should email them to discuss.

 

Revolting? or how about “justification.”

 

Her revolting statement on the assassination of Brian Thompson is a reminder of why Democrats should abandon her, and look more to the example of John Fetterman.

[RuamRudy]

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ho hum............

 

 

I think we did this yesterday morning. Cast your mind back just 24 hours or so ago to our interaction where I repeatedly asked you to highlight the words which she used to sympathise with the alleged murderer, and you repeatedly failed to do so. 

 

Let's just cut to the chase and agree that you are unable or unwilling to think for yourself, and that you let sensationalist right wing headlines guide your world view. 

[mdr224]

22 hours ago, G_Money said:

I bought you a new hat.  
 

Wear it with pride.
 

 

Spidermike is the biggest hypocrite ive seen on the forum. Second place isn’t particularly close

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Ho hum, your opinion differs from the article and the author who indeed say it was sympathizing. Perhaps you should email them to discuss.

 

Revolting? or how about “justification.”

 

Her revolting statement on the assassination of Brian Thompson is a reminder of why Democrats should abandon her, and look more to the example of John Fetterman.

The headline is ‘an opinion’.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I think we did this yesterday morning. Cast your mind back just 24 hours or so ago to our interaction where I repeatedly asked you to highlight the words which she used to sympathise with the alleged murderer, and you repeatedly failed to do so. 

 

Let's just cut to the chase and agree that you are unable or unwilling to think for yourself, and that you let sensationalist right wing headlines guide your world view. 

Just as well you didn’t hold your breath.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The headline is ‘an opinion’.

Yes, of course and its also an opinion from a site with known author, unlike yours 'an anonymous' forum user. Why did you ignore the 'revolting' claim?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I think we did this yesterday morning. Cast your mind back just 24 hours or so ago to our interaction where I repeatedly asked you to highlight the words which she used to sympathise with the alleged murderer, and you repeatedly failed to do so. 

 

Let's just cut to the chase and agree that you are unable or unwilling to think for yourself, and that you let sensationalist right wing headlines guide your world view. 

Yes is that when you were being dishonest claiming you didn't edit the sentence when the evidence said otherwise....

 

By the way, you don't have to use the word sympathise to actually do so. That's the beauty of the English language and how you feel about things.

 

But I see your also down to shooting the messenger. 

 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Just as well you didn’t hold your breath.

 

 

Hold breath about what exactly, can you refer to a quote that I have not responded to yet because of a claim I made?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

By the way, you don't have to use the word sympathise to actually do so.

That’s true.

 

You actually have to actually ‘sympathize’, it’s a verb.

 

Pelosi did not ‘sympathize’ with the killer.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s true.

 

You actually have to actually ‘sympathize’, it’s a verb.

 

Pelosi did not ‘sympathize’ with the killer.

 

 

Lets no go on a deflection and grammer tour stating the obvious eh. My explanation was clear on why she does not have to say it to show it......

 

Oh look, now Pelosi being brought into the topic..........

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lets no go on a deflection and grammer tour stating the obvious eh. My explanation was clear on why she does not have to say it to show it......

 

Oh look, now Pelosi being brought into the topic..........

Your explainion hangs on the headlines editors choose to attach to articles, which are themselves expressing opinions

Misleading headlines that are not supported by facts are common place, it’s how newspapers sell.

 

Being mislead by such headlines is too often a choice, but one you are absolutely free to make, just don’t expect the rest of us to do likewise.

 

[animatic]

On 12/12/2024 at 1:19 PM, Hanaguma said:

His company? He owns it?

 

Love to see the evidence of your claim of thousands of needless deaths too. 

CEO sets policy.  He is also on the parent companies board. Hard work by the amoral can lead to success… but who was harmed by their hard work.

if you can’t find that evidence which is glaringly public about adverse medical insurance outcomes, don’t expect others to do it for you. 
 

PS “Woke” has absolutely zero to do with this.

Clearly the most misused word of this decade so far.

And absurd it’s used as a pejorative attack, yet most all who accept “Woke” as part of their viewpoint see it as a very positive aspect of their personal philosophy.
So an obvious double fail for those using the word to slag the caring.

[Chomper Higgot]

In an example of how headlines mislead, I’m still waiting for evidence that the killer has been made a cultural icon by solely ‘woke’ people or indeed people of any particular outlook, politics or otherwise.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your explainion hangs on the headlines editors choose to attach to articles, which are themselves expressing opinions

Misleading headlines that are not supported by facts are common place, it’s how newspapers sell.

 

Being mislead by such headlines is too often a choice, but one you are absolutely free to make, just don’t expect the rest of us to do likewise.

 

Yes and? Its not only his opinion however and it is also in the article not just the headline. Again your opinion that its a misleading headline is just your opinion. For the author he is more than happy that it is justified.

 

Here's another who finds it relevant:

 

If you think sympathy for the devil in Luigi Mangione is confined to the fever swamps of Reddit, consider comments by Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-luigi-mangione-john-fetterman-healthcare-brian-thompson-48fc4828

https://archive.ph/YNhm2

 

Because you don't agree with it does not make it not so. It just provides an alternative opinion in your case from 'an anonymous' forum user as I said before.

 

I also agree that what she said was awful and no wonder she walked it back as she did after the uproar but she should never have said it in the first place.

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Just as well you didn’t hold your breath.

 

 

Still waiting for this and a quote to anything that I am avoiding or missing? Or would you like to walk it back?

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In an example of how headlines mislead, I’m still waiting for evidence that the killer has been made a cultural icon by solely ‘woke’ people or indeed people of any particular outlook, politics or otherwise.

 

I'm not claiming they're woke, or lefty or anything. 

 

But Google "Mangione T shirts" or "Mangione coffee mugs" and the guy has become something of a cultural icon.  What we used to call a Poster Boy...

 

[Chomper Higgot]

43 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm not claiming they're woke, or lefty or anything. 

 

But Google "Mangione T shirts" or "Mangione coffee mugs" and the guy has become something of a cultural icon.  What we used to call a Poster Boy...

 

On that I do not disagree.

 

I would go as far as to say he joins a tradition that goes back at least as far as the fable of Robin Hood.

 

The question to ask is why do so many people respond so positively to the killer of a corporate CEO?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes and? Its not only his opinion however and it is also in the article not just the headline. Again your opinion that its a misleading headline is just your opinion. For the author he is more than happy that it is justified.

 

Here's another who finds it relevant:

 

If you think sympathy for the devil in Luigi Mangione is confined to the fever swamps of Reddit, consider comments by Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-luigi-mangione-john-fetterman-healthcare-brian-thompson-48fc4828

https://archive.ph/YNhm2

 

Because you don't agree with it does not make it not so. It just provides an alternative opinion in your case from 'an anonymous' forum user as I said before.

 

I also agree that what she said was awful and no wonder she walked it back as she did after the uproar but she should never have said it in the first place.

 

Another editorial opinion, it even says so right at the top of the article you linked.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Another editorial opinion, it even says so right at the top of the article you linked.

Another shoot the messenger. Of course its an opinion, its is a subjective term. What one person perceives as sympathetic might not be interpreted the same way by someone else. You are obviously not interpreting it that way, your opinion only but your opinion does not hold the same weight as the links provided and I've already posted why.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Another shoot the messenger. Of course its an opinion, its is a subjective term. What one person perceives as sympathetic might not be interpreted the same way by someone else. You are obviously not interpreting it that way, your opinion only but your opinion does not hold the same weight as the links provided and I've already posted why.

 

 

 

 

I’m not shooting any messenger Brian, I’m pointing out editorial options are not facts.

 

He’s a question for you.

 

When Pelosi says ‘People can only be pushed so far” is she correct in that observation?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not shooting any messenger Brian, I’m pointing out editorial options are not facts.

 

He’s a question for you.

 

When Pelosi says ‘People can only be pushed so far” is she correct in that observation?

 

 

Who on earth claimed they were facts? Yes you are shooting the messenger its right there in your post...... Stop the deflection yet again.

[xylophone]

On 12/12/2024 at 5:48 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet you can’t produce any credible evidence that the killer is a left winger.

You make a good point in your post, and from what I have read in the various newspapers and media outlets, it would appear that his family were staunch Republicans and donated to the Republican cause, although it doesn't state exactly what his political leanings were!

 

Perhaps his motives were nothing to do with left or right, or for example, "woke" leanings, but purely because he was in pain and/or mentally disturbed?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, xylophone said:

You make a good point in your post, and from what I have read in the various newspapers and media outlets, it would appear that his family were staunch Republicans and donated to the Republican cause, although it doesn't state exactly what his political leanings were!

 

Perhaps his motives were nothing to do with left or right, or for example, "woke" leanings, but purely because he was in pain and/or mentally disturbed?

Agreed.

 

Moreover, as others have pointed out there is definitely a wide spread positive response to this guy’s act of killing the Corporate CEO.

 

Rather than trying to pin this popularity on any particular group a far more instructive line of inquiry would be to ask why has this killer’s actions given rise to such wide popular support?

 

 

 

 

 

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[gamb00ler]

On 12/12/2024 at 2:09 PM, John Drake said:

I'm utterly indifferent to the fates of these two, Thompson and Mangione. I am interested in abolishing health insurance, prohibiting health care from being anything other than a non-profit business, providing free, yes, free, care to citizens, and prohibiting all non-citizens from anything but pay as they go services.

I other words you want to really punish immigrants most of who are legally in the USA.  The figures up to 2022 show that 23% of foreign born US residents were illegal and the rest were legal (according to PEW research).   If your desires came true about health coverage what would the 11.5M lawful permanent residents of US do?

[Luuk Chaai]

20 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

It doesn't matter how many times you try to repeat your same lying narrative, she didn't sympathise. She showed contextual understanding, something that I think is missing from your 2 dimensional world. 

 as in FACT ,,  or fiction

[RuamRudy]

4 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

 as in FACT ,,  or fiction

 

In this case it's fiction. She didn't sympathise with him. 

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

In this case it's fiction. She didn't sympathise with him. 

Can you provide a link to that claim?

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to that claim?

 

The article is written using her words. They are clear for all to see.

 

As you have repeatedly been asked but failed to identify where in the statement she expressed sympathy towards the alleged murderer, your failure is sufficient evidence. 

 

But if you want to continue to push this false narrative and continue to demonstrate that you are either unable to think for yourself, or that you are willing to push a false News Corp narrative, then fill your boots. It doesn't make you less wrong the more you repeat it. 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to that claim?

There is no proof of something that didn’t happened.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no proof of something that didn’t happened.

 

But according to some it did. Its their opinion and they have every right to express it as others to to deny it. But making factual claims on it is false.

 

Do you really want to go through all this yet again. Why not read the numerous posts in the thread.