Trump’s Transition Team Eyes Swift WHO Exit, Sparking Global Health Concerns

[Will B Good]

29 minutes ago, atpeace said:

In March of 2017, the Associated Press reported that the World Health Organization spent more for the travel of 7,000 staffers than it did for countering malaria, tuberculosis, fighting AIDS and hepatitis, and on tackling mental health and substance abuse. The agency is simultaneously demanding its budget be increased as it doesn’t seem to have enough money to fulfill its healthcare-providing role.

Source: https://fee.org/articles/who-needs-the-who-not-the-world-s-poor/

 

Speaking for myself, a person that isn't wealthy, I would rather tear down these types of organizations and start building organizations that represent society as a whole.  For example, a USA democratic party that truly represents the normal American would garner my interest. 

 

Trump to me is the best thing that has happened in decades and I think he can be a dipshttt.  We might be able to rid our society of this woke insaneness and begin creating a better society.  Could care less if liberals or conservatives take the lead.

 

What a shame.....doing so well up to that point......

[atpeace]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

What a shame.....doing so well up to that point......

Over my head. Seriously explain what point you are making and I'm not being sarcastic.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

Over my head. Seriously explain what point you are making and I'm not being sarcastic.

woke insaneness

[Tippaporn]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

WHO has always been a political leftie organization, best not to finance your enemies.

I'd suggest they leave NATO and the UN as well, as they're all a waste of money.

........ and forget Climate Change .........

 

Best post in this thread so far.  https://assets.aseannow.com/forum/uploads/emoticons/thumbsup.gif

[mdr224]

Just now, Will B Good said:

woke insaneness

Seems about right. Half the west are literally insane and want nothing more than destruction of the west and capitalism

[atpeace]

Just now, Will B Good said:

woke insaneness

Oh, interesting. You think wokeness wasn't insane in recent years?  I get there is a place for being woke in society but the levels it reached were insane IMO.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Oh, interesting. You think wokeness wasn't insane in recent years?  I get there is a place for being woke in society but the levels it reached were insane IMO.

 

It is so passe........throw in woke and/or wokeness, nearly always irrelevant to any discussion, and many seem to think that should do it, job done.

[atpeace]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

It is so passe........throw in woke and/or wokeness, nearly always irrelevant to any discussion, and many seem to think that should do it, job done.

I think you were never bothered by the wokeness? 

 

For some, like myself, it was a terrible experience and I felt it greatly restricted freedom of thought.  It is all perspective and from yours it is something that is easily disregarded.  I can respect your opinion but I feel moving past the wokeness that became increasingly aggressive and hateful is a mistake. 

 

BTW, I never thought you were fanatically woke but many were on this forum.  

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/24/2024 at 9:09 AM, Social Media said:

Jha emphasized the importance of the WHO in fostering global cooperation during health emergencies, including vaccine development and distribution.

No doubt including the covid rushed vaccines based on "new" science. Let them carry on with such without the US. No reason for the US to be the largest contributor to that sort of thing that I fundamentally disagree with.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

I think you were never bothered by the wokeness? 

 

For some, like myself, it was a terrible experience and I felt it greatly restricted freedom of thought.  It is all perspective and from yours it is something that is easily disregarded.  I can respect your opinion but I feel moving past the wokeness that became increasingly aggressive and hateful is a mistake. 

 

BTW, I never thought you were fanatically woke but many were on this forum.  

No....I would never describe myself as fanatical regarding anything in particular.

 

I just find the goto phrase annoying ....e.g.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

It is so passe........throw in woke and/or wokeness, nearly always irrelevant to any discussion, and many seem to think that should do it, job done.

It's not irrelevant when wokeness is used to cover many atrocities of modern life. When the luvvies stop pushing wokeness in my face at every turn, I'll stop mentioning it.

[Will B Good]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

many atrocities of modern life

?

[thaibeachlovers]

27 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Seems about right. Half the west are literally insane and want nothing more than destruction of the west and capitalism

Only half? Seemed more like 100% of the west to me. In NZ they are still trying to make us take boosters for a vaccine that IMO didn't work and is a huge con.

 

 

[atpeace]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

No....I would never describe myself as fanatical regarding anything in particular.

 

I just find the goto phrase annoying ....e.g.

https://assets.aseannow.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2024_12/Screenshot2024-12-25at10_00_39.png.35e9e5076919cbff0c3a6ad33f6c751b.png

It is what got Trump elected and therefore I get your dislike 🙂  I think I use the term in the wrong context quite often.  For me the word is more attached to a culture and not a definition. 

[mdr224]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only half? Seemed more like 100% of the west to me. In NZ they are still trying to make us take boosters for a vaccine that IMO didn't work and is a huge con.

 

 

Id like to think half of europe is fighting against their governments but dont have true democracies like the US

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In NZ they are still trying to make us take boosters

 

Make or encourage?

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

It is what got Trump elected and therefore I get your dislike 🙂

5555.....now you might have hit the nail on the head there....555

[Hamus Yaigh]

22 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

As a UK person I think we should leave the corrupt WHO, the ECHR and  all the rest of those left wing agenda nutcase organisations

Labeling everything you disagree with as "left-wing" or "right-wing" "nutcases" can be reductive and oversimplifying complex issues and really embarrasses ones owns ability to understand more than anything else.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

?

Have you been living in a cave for the past decade? If you can't see the atrocities of wokeness you need to look harder. They are all about us.

Just one example- causing massive amounts of pollution flying thousands of people to exotic locations to talk about reducing pollution.

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, ricklev said:

They will probably also throw out any USA strategies for dealing with future pandemics and any funding for implementation when a new pandemic occurs.  Why?  Because they are ideologues and sycophants in the service of an uneducated, uncaring and uninterested leader.   

 

Old normal:  Pandemics are rare.

New normal:  Pandemics are commonplace.

 

List of epidemics and pandemics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics

 

Seems to me that naturally occuring pandemics are a rarity.  But if Covid-19 was man made and accidentally released from a lab then that doesn't count as naturally occuring.  I'd say that anyone fretting about the next naturally occuring pandemic has swallowed too much fear porn.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

In March of 2017, the Associated Press reported that the World Health Organization spent more for the travel of 7,000 staffers than it did for countering malaria, tuberculosis, fighting AIDS and hepatitis, and on tackling mental health and substance abuse. The agency is simultaneously demanding its budget be increased as it doesn’t seem to have enough money to fulfill its healthcare-providing role.

Source: https://fee.org/articles/who-needs-the-who-not-the-world-s-poor/

 

Speaking for myself, a person that isn't wealthy, I would rather tear down these types of organizations and start building organizations that represent society as a whole.  For example, a USA democratic party that truly represents the normal American would garner my interest. 

 

Trump to me is the best thing that has happened in decades and I think he can be a dipshttt.  We might be able to rid our society of this woke insaneness and begin creating a better society.  Could care less if liberals or conservatives take the lead.

Firstly your source has this as its mission. 

"FEE’s mission is to inspire, educate, and connect future leaders with the economic, ethical, and legal principles of a free society.

These principles include: individual liberty, free-market economics, entrepreneurship, private property, high moral character, and limited government."

 

Hardly objective is it 

 

Secondly this is not true.

"In March of 2017, the Associated Press reported that the World Health Organization spent more for the travel of 7,000 staffers than it did for countering malaria, tuberculosis, fighting AIDS and hepatitis, and on tackling mental health and substance abuse."

The header of the link to which your source refers says 

"Health agency spends more on travel than AIDS", the text says.

"According to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press, the United Nations health agency routinely has spent about $200 million a year on travel expenses, more than what it doles out to fight some of the biggest problems in public health, including AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria combined.".

 

I agree the travel expenses are ridiculously high, there is no need to nisinform.

[mokwit]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Have you been living in a cave for the past decade?

I'm afraid it's worse, he has been living in an Isaan village 🤣

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Have you been living in a cave for the past decade? If you can't see the atrocities of wokeness you need to look harder. They are all about us.

Just one example- trying to give billions of western $ to poor countries without any checks on where it will be going, and no indication of what it should be spent on. Wokeness covering corruption.

 

Poor financial administration.....what has that got to do with being woke?

 

Or, even with water tight admin', are you of the opinion that rich countries should never try to help poorer countries......?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Labeling everything you disagree with as "left-wing" or "right-wing" "nutcases" can be reductive and oversimplifying complex issues and really embarrasses ones owns ability to understand more than anything else.

Seems everything is based on "left wing or right wing" these sad days and the idea that organisations should just help people in trouble, without trying to make them take an unproven vaccine is an idea consigned to the bin long ago. Now it's all about politics. IMO.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

I'm afraid it's worse, he has been living in an Isaan village 🤣

 

DO NOT REMIND ME....still got another week in BKK....555

[Purdey]

Reducing the US contribution to a level that is the average of what EU countries spend would be fair. 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, mdr224 said:

Not only USA but worldwide. This election was a major turning point in history, and could have saved the west from destruction

Or cause the destruction of the west if Trump throws his toys out of the pram!

[Will B Good]

14 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Labeling everything you disagree with as "left-wing" or "right-wing" "nutcases" can be reductive and oversimplifying complex issues and really embarrasses ones owns ability to understand more than anything else.

 

Well said.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Poor financial administration.....what has that got to do with being woke?

 

Or, even with water tight admin', are you of the opinion that rich countries should never try to help poorer countries......?

A lot, unfortunately when woke people get hold of other people's money. You do know that PEOPLE spend money, and it doesn't spend itself, aren't you?

 

Depends if it's for something they actually need help for something that they can't fix themselves.

IMO poor countries are not poor in fact. There is usually plenty of money but it's stolen by corrupt governments. Let them pay before western money is sent. The other reason they are poor is that they are overpopulated, and their governments do nothing about that, preferring to let them try to get illegally to other countries, while selling their fishing grounds to rich western nations and such like. Nigeria makes loadsacash from oil, but the poor get only pollution and no money.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

woke insaneness

There is a lot of that about these days