Stabbing Incident in Pattaya Leaves Japanese Tourist Dead; Suspect Caught

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, riverhigh said:

Moral of  the story don't intervene in someone else's domestic argument.

 

It rarely goes well.  Often the woman turns on the Good Samaritan as well.  They might seem like the victim, but the chances are that the woman actually likes the drama.

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Hummm, you seem to claim that Thai men beating their GF is not part of their culture, and then you go on and suggest to wait some 20 years, (In which time the culture might have changed)...

 

Quite.  "It's not part of the culture, it's part of [gives definition of culture]."  🙄

[Scouse123]

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, his Parents are English and Thai 

 

Yes, but his passport would be British, not an English one as don't have one.

 

Similarly, we don't have Welsh or Scottish passports, that's what he was saying.

 

Semantics.

 

It could be a Thai with a British passport, or it could be a mixed race kid, half English, half Thai.

 

Either way, he's a scumbag taking a life with a knife for such a pathetic reason.

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Rarely is it a japanese that gets themselves into trouble

 

I was thinking the exact same.

 

I have struck up conversations with Japanese maybe two or three times in all my years here.

 

They tend to avoid us, and certainly don't get into disputes as a rule.

[billd766]

52 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Well, that's two.  And, yes, please both of you stay away.  Pattaya is busy enough.   And, meanwhile, you can continue to comment on all things Pattaya to your heart's content--with your 'one day/night' visit 12 years ago you are certainly as informed and up-to-date on Pattaya as most of the posters here.

How very kind of you to allow us to post on your personal forum.

 

It is YOUR personal forum is it not, or is the forum open to anybody to post on?

 

BTW did somebody promote you to be the Grand PooBah, to decide who should be allowed to post on the forum or not?

[smew]

Sad, young Japanese man on vacation in this land of anger trying to do the right thing.

This Thai- Eng guy resembles a man driving motorbike on Maprachan lake walkway and became threatening abusive when reprimanded, possessed perfect english swearing vocabulary and …much more 

[Guderian]

Good to see that this suspected violent murderer is being transported under high-security conditions. I mean, when the cops stop off at an Amazon cafe for a quick shot of caffeine on the way to the station, there's no chance he might have hopped over the side of the truck and fled, even if he is handcuffed. lol

 

[smew]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Let us see if he is so light hearted after a night or two on the cell floor

Once news wears off and is forgotten then his papa will bail him out… money is the second king here… 

[newnative]

14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

How very kind of you to allow us to post on your personal forum.

 

It is YOUR personal forum is it not, or is the forum open to anybody to post on?

 

BTW did somebody promote you to be the Grand PooBah, to decide who should be allowed to post on the forum or not?

     Tamp down the drama and faux outrage.   Post away.  And, I assume I am allowed to do the same--which is all I was doing.   I found it interesting that one poster commenting had not been to Pattaya in more than 10 years and the other had a 1-day visit 12 years ago.   I did urge both posters to 'continue to comment to their heart's desire'.   I look forward to their keen insights on the Pattaya of today.

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

do we really need to bring per capita spending into a discussion where someone was murdered? 

It provides a compelling reason for quick action on the part of Thai authorities. Money is a key motivator in Thailand.

[spidermike007]

There is no question that Pattaya has become the most crime riddled area in all of Thailand. That is quite a distinction, it seems to attract a very low element, a violent element and people who are prone to these sorts of nonsensical outbursts.

 

It's never a particularly good idea to intervene when people are having an argument, okay if you see a woman being violently assaulted that's one thing, but arguing is quite another.

 

The last aspect of this is that some people just cannot hold their alcohol well, and simply should not be drinking and when they are drinking people should really stay clear of them. This guy's life is over, hopefully his fellow prisoners will give him a warm welcome. 

[Captain Flack]

An off topic post with implied racism has been removed

[Patong2021]

7 hours ago, jippytum said:

The fact the accused Thai/Brit out with his Thai girlfriend was carrying a knife and prepared to use it for protection says a lot. 

Or to menace and threaten.

[Patong2021]

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There is no question that Pattaya has become the most crime riddled area in all of Thailand. That is quite a distinction, it seems to attract a very low element, a violent element and people who are prone to these sorts of nonsensical outbursts.

 

It's never a particularly good idea to intervene when people are having an argument, okay if you see a woman being violently assaulted that's one thing, but arguing is quite another.

 

The last aspect of this is that some people just cannot hold their alcohol well, and simply should not be drinking and when they are drinking people should really stay clear of them. This guy's life is over, hopefully his fellow prisoners will give him a warm welcome. 

 

I offer that it isn't about holding alcohol well. A nasty and mean person becomes a nasty and mean drunk. A  happy person  becomes the laughing friendly drunk. Alcohol is offered up as an excuse for being a violent turd to start with. We have all experienced these people. I am fortunate that my drinking friends in my youth were all happy loveable drunks.

[8OA8]

22 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

No such thing as English passport. 

 

A Thai with a British passport? 

Where did it make mention that he held a passport for any country?

[Ctkong]

23 hours ago, Briggsy said:

I used to live in an area of Bangkok that had a lot of nightclubs aimed at the Thai not foreigner market. It was a very common occurrence to see Thai blokes (affluent, not peasant) assaulting their girlfriends in the street. It is part of the culture whether we like it or not.

You are correct. Girlfriends unlike wives are not on the same social footing . Thai guys treat their gf like their property. Do not come between Thai couples acting like a knight in shiny armor because 1) you do not know the reason for the altercation 2) no Thai male want to lose face in front of onlookers. They cannot survive the humiliation aftermath thus the fatal reaction. 
3) mind your own business when you are just a tourist in their country. The locals know how to handle such situation better. 

[henryford1958]

4 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Are you saying wife beating leads to strong and fulfilling marriages? It is actually a fact that there's an inverse correlation between wife beating and divorce in the west, as wife beatings have decreased over time the divorce rate has been rising. Does correlation equal causing though? 😂

 

I have come to the conclusion that women like to be beaten. Why else would they stay with these morons. I would leave the first time he hit me.

[Ctkong]

2 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

I was thinking the exact same.

 

I have struck up conversations with Japanese maybe two or three times in all my years here.

 

They tend to avoid us, and certainly don't get into disputes as a rule.

Yes, my Japanese friends are always polite and careful with their English for not many middle aged or elderly Japanese are versed in English language. They are very conscious of losing face with their utterances. Another issue is their lack of understanding western culture and slang .  

[ujayujay]

LOS,  always welcome Guests

[Captain Flack]

An off topic nonsense troll post has been removed.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I offer that it isn't about holding alcohol well. A nasty and mean person becomes a nasty and mean drunk. A  happy person  becomes the laughing friendly drunk. Alcohol is offered up as an excuse for being a violent turd to start with. We have all experienced these people. I am fortunate that my drinking friends in my youth were all happy loveable drunks.

I do completely agree, alcohol does bring out one's true nature. I think what I was intending to say is that if one is a nasty piece of work with a violent tendency, alcohol tends to exacerbate that. 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Yes, but his passport would be British, not an English one as don't have one.

 

Similarly, we don't have Welsh or Scottish passports, that's what he was saying.

 

Semantics.

 

It could be a Thai with a British passport, or it could be a mixed race kid, half English, half Thai.

 

Either way, he's a scumbag taking a life with a knife for such a pathetic reason.

 

   No one said that he had an English passport , it was stated that he's an English "national" , it didnt say he had an English passport 

[Scouse123]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No one said that he had an English passport , it was stated that he's an English "national" , it didnt say he had an English passport 

 

And nor did I, I was merely pointing out the other poster's comment and what they meant by it.

 

They were being ' picky '

[Scouse123]

32 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

Yes, my Japanese friends are always polite and careful with their English for not many middle aged or elderly Japanese are versed in English language. They are very conscious of losing face with their utterances. Another issue is their lack of understanding western culture and slang .  

 

I spoke to a few younger Japanese in, believe it or not, Soi Nana last year.

 

There was one guy who spoke for the rest of them, as he was the most fluent in English.

 

I was very polite too, you find when people are so nice they bring the best out in ourselves.

 

I found them very nice people and pleasant as well as very well-mannered.

[Scouse123]

32 minutes ago, digger70 said:

He might be a Thai Pommy Cross hey. That would be a bad outcome I would think.

 

I know a few and they are OK.

 

Not sure though if they were Thai/Aussies that would be the case.😆

[Taboo2]

5 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Are you saying wife beating leads to strong and fulfilling marriages? It is actually a fact that there's an inverse correlation between wife beating and divorce in the west, as wife beatings have decreased over time the divorce rate has been rising. Does correlation equal causing though? 😂

No genius, what I am saying is that historically, men have beaten their wives and it continues to this day.  Who are we to judge?  Some women also abuse men.  Stay in your lane.  I asked my mother why she put up with the beating, she said, we have seven kids and he brings home money to feed you when you were young.  So think about that for a minute.  When  no access to food or shelter is available, some culture survive as best as they could.  He stopped the beatings 5 years into the marriage...we all have demons.

[AustinRacing]

Thai genes seems to have been the dominant over the English genes. 

[Scouse123]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I do completely agree, alcohol does bring out one's true nature. I think what I was intending to say is that if one is a nasty piece of work with a violent tendency, alcohol tends to exacerbate that. 

 

Not sure about that.

 

Many years ago I would react quickly in drink, over the years I mellowed and now ignore any people who try baiting me when alcohol is involved.

 

That said. I haven't had a beer for four months, it doesn't have the same enjoyment as it used to.

[Scouse123]

1 minute ago, AustinRacing said:

Thai genes seems to have been the dominant over the English genes. 

 

Yes,

 

And his reaction to arrest, and subsequent nonchalant behaviour, told you he was more used to being in Thailand.

[Taboo2]

46 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

You are correct. Girlfriends unlike wives are not on the same social footing . Thai guys treat their gf like their property. Do not come between Thai couples acting like a knight in shiny armor because 1) you do not know the reason for the altercation 2) no Thai male want to lose face in front of onlookers. They cannot survive the humiliation aftermath thus the fatal reaction. 
3) mind your own business when you are just a tourist in their country. The locals know how to handle such situation better. 

Thanks, some people never ask questions about this culture, or do a google research.  One time a guy up north tried to intervene and stop a fight between Thai men.  Both groups turned on him and sent him to the hospital.  Their reasoning was simple..."He should have mind his own business".  This is Thailand!  Deal with it!  Leave the locals to figure out their situations.  Stop trying to save people who may not appreciate you getting involved.