Cooking oil

[lyskamm]

Just wondering which type of oil to use for frying vegetables. Is soybean oil ok? Thanks for all your replies!

[Bill97]

Steam them 

[Foxx]

Stir frying or deep fat frying?

[KhunLA]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:27 PM, lyskamm said:

Just wondering which type of oil to use for frying vegetables. Is soybean oil ok? Thanks for all your replies!

 

[lyskamm]

2 hours ago, Foxx said:

Stir frying or deep fat frying?

Just for stir frying.

[recom273]

Canola oil is a sweetspot between price, taste and health for us.

 

Ricebran is ok but sometimes a little expensive - soya production has some negative environmental effects, right?

 

I feel canola has some issues too. ETS: Yeah, the seed is often genetically modified, but is listed as a sustainable source. 

[lyskamm]

Thanks so much !

 

[dingdongrb]

After purchasing an Air Fryer a few months back I have been doing nothing but using it for veggies.

 

I cut chunks of broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, potatoes, Bell peppers, mushrooms, and onions......place them in a bowl, spray lightly with a little olive oil, and mix well with some seasonings. 

 

Easy to do, easy to clean up, healthy, and the fresh crispy taste is awesome (IMO).

[jas007]

According to some, you shouldn't be using any type of seed oil.  Use Ghee instead. 

[KhunLA]

55 minutes ago, jas007 said:

According to some, you shouldn't be using any type of seed oil.  Use Ghee instead. 

I get enough saturated fat from the whole foods (proteins/meats & butter) themselves, so don't need to be adding  or cooking in.  Why I'm a fan of Canola oil for most cooking.  Tallow if having for beef & pork, simply for the flavor.

 

[jas007]

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I get enough saturated fat from the whole foods (proteins/meats) themselves, so don't need to be adding  or cooking in.  Why I'm a fan of Canola oil for most cooking.  Tallow if having for beef & pork, simply for the flavor.

 

They say it goes beyond saturated fat:

 

There are potential health effects, particularly inflammation. Production methods are also suspect. 

   

 - Canola oil is high in omega-6 fatty acids, particularly linoleic acid that can cause inflammation associated with problems like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and cancer. Also, linoleic acid can be converted into arachidonic acid in the body, potentially increasing inflammatory markers.

 

-The production process often involves solvents like hexane which can lead to the formation of trans fats when the oil is partially hydrogenated. 

 

-Most commercially available canola oil is highly refined and genetically modified (GMO), raising s additional concerns.

 

[recom273]

7 minutes ago, jas007 said:

They say it goes beyond saturated fat:

 

There are potential health effects, particularly inflammation. Production methods are also suspect. 

   

 - Canola oil is high in omega-6 fatty acids, particularly linoleic acid that can cause inflammation associated with problems like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and cancer. Also, linoleic acid can be converted into arachidonic acid in the body, potentially increasing inflammatory markers.

 

-The production process often involves solvents like hexane which can lead to the formation of trans fats when the oil is partially hydrogenated. 

 

-Most commercially available canola oil is highly refined and genetically modified (GMO), raising s additional concerns.

 

 

I just checked earlier regarding ghee, out of interest more than anything.

 

Quote

O’Neill says choosing ghee should be a matter of personal preference and not based on any perceived health benefits. “The potential compounds that ghee contains are not significant enough to improve your health.”

 

I think it's down to personal preference myself, im sure a diet of ghee wouldn't be over healthy. I find canola a balance, and you are correct about GMO seed and the use of chemical solvents in the manufacture. I also use rendered pork fat for roast potatoes, palm oil for French fries, - we dont eat so much of it and it has a high smoke point. I think if we read so much into this, then we should stop eating meat, stop eating pesticide ridden vegetables that is sold in the market here, stop eating anything in this country with processed sugar, even the rice growers here seem to throw chemicals at it in favor of higher yields - we would be limited to eating raw bamboo shoots scavenged from the bush.. 

[jas007]

13 minutes ago, recom273 said:

 

I just checked earlier regarding ghee, out of interest more than anything.

 

 

I think it's down to personal preference myself, im sure a diet of ghee wouldn't be over healthy. I find canola a balance, and you are correct about GMO seed and the use of chemical solvents in the manufacture. I also use rendered pork fat for roast potatoes, palm oil for French fries, - we dont eat so much of it and it has a high smoke point. I think if we read so much into this, then we should stop eating meat, stop eating pesticide ridden vegetables that is sold in the market here, stop eating anything in this country with processed sugar, even the rice growers here seem to throw chemicals at it in favor of higher yields - we would be limited to eating raw bamboo shoots scavenged from the bush.. 

It does seem ridiculous at times.  I remember going into the grocery store and trying to figure out what I could possibly buy that wasn't somehow supposedly bad for me.  There isn't much there. 

[transam]

7 minutes ago, jas007 said:

It does seem ridiculous at times.  I remember going into the grocery store and trying to figure out what I could possibly buy that wasn't somehow supposedly bad for me.  There isn't much there. 

I, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles all grew up using beef dripping for cooking, beef suet for puddings, chips done in beef fat, yummy.

So far they all lived to till late 80's and 90's....

 

And folk are in fear over which trendy oil to use..........🤭

[Centigrade32]

56 minutes ago, transam said:

I, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles all grew up using beef dripping for cooking, beef suet for puddings, chips done in beef fat, yummy.

So far they all lived to till late 80's and 90's....

 

And folk are in fear over which trendy oil to use..........🤭

 

But how was their quality of life in old age? 

[transam]

Just now, Centigrade32 said:

 

But how was their quality of life in old age? 

They could all walk, talk and drive a car except one, and still cooked chips in beef dripping...............

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

They say it goes beyond saturated fat:

 

There are potential health effects, particularly inflammation. Production methods are also suspect. 

   

 - Canola oil is high in omega-6 fatty acids, particularly linoleic acid that can cause inflammation associated with problems like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and cancer. Also, linoleic acid can be converted into arachidonic acid in the body, potentially increasing inflammatory markers.

 

-The production process often involves solvents like hexane which can lead to the formation of trans fats when the oil is partially hydrogenated. 

 

-Most commercially available canola oil is highly refined and genetically modified (GMO), raising s additional concerns.

"They say" ? ... folks I listen to, say the opposite.  Along with providing test results backing up what they state.

 

And my lack of inflammation, and blood work, agrees with them.  I like my liver ...

 

 

 

[cooked]

It is beyond me, that people haven't read the literature concerning saturated fats. They are not harmful, are in fact desirable.

https://www.jacc.org/doi/full/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077?fbclid=IwAR1v-IS6yVRkvsY5alEAqgKIbr9MbyyNQHI6u8ODveZPrc9TjQjvalm3AQw&  and 

 

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2020/06/cochrane-saturated-fat-reviews/?fbclid=IwAR1o2QWrxy3F4K2xK6HrCnMfSnmG1jnPfOFor6ZpGsqAHGyxp-txCqXYAJ0 

 

Pretty extensive trials have shown that high levels of Omega-6 are present in all seed oils and that if they overweigh the amount of Omega-3 significantly, they are harmful. 

AND... why does nobody ever mention coconut oil? Olive oil is likely contaminated with other, cheaper oils and will have started to oxidise in your kitchen, which is a complicated reason for not using it, no matter how expensive it is.

 

 

[jas007]

15 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

"They say" ? ... folks I listen to, say the opposite.  Along with providing test results backing up what they state.

 

And my lack of inflammation, and blood work, agrees with them.  I like my liver ...

 

 

 

 Well, when I cook, which isn't often, I have decided just to skip it.  I use butter when I make eggs or steak, and that's about all I cook.  Probably all for naught, as I also order food to be delivered and I also eat in restaurants,, so it might all be an exercise in futility. 

[KhunLA]

17 minutes ago, cooked said:

It is beyond me, that people haven't read the literature concerning saturated fats. They are not harmful, are in fact desirable.

https://www.jacc.org/doi/full/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077?fbclid=IwAR1v-IS6yVRkvsY5alEAqgKIbr9MbyyNQHI6u8ODveZPrc9TjQjvalm3AQw&  and 

 

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2020/06/cochrane-saturated-fat-reviews/?fbclid=IwAR1o2QWrxy3F4K2xK6HrCnMfSnmG1jnPfOFor6ZpGsqAHGyxp-txCqXYAJ0 

 

Pretty extensive trials have shown that high levels of Omega-6 are present in all seed oils and that if they overweigh the amount of Omega-3 significantly, they are harmful. 

AND... why does nobody ever mention coconut oil? Olive oil is likely contaminated with other, cheaper oils and will have started to oxidise in your kitchen, which is a complicated reason for not using it, no matter how expensive it is.

 

 

I agree, and I get plenty of saturated fats in other foods.  Not so much mono & polyunsaturated.  Already eat a fair amount of butter & cheese, along with drinking whole milk.  

 

I seem to snack a lot on Cashews & cheeses, so more than enough saturated fat with just them.  CheeseCake is my 'pastry' go to, and even made a batch of EggNog this week, using heavy 'whipping' cream 

 

 

 

 

[harryviking]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:27 PM, lyskamm said:

Just wondering which type of oil to use for frying vegetables. Is soybean oil ok? Thanks for all your replies!

For your own good and health stop using these damn poisonous oils! Use lard/beef fat or coconut oil. 

[newbee2022]

I don't use cooking oil but an airfryer

[ignore it]

Seed oils bad.

 

Olive oil, Yum!

[spidermike007]

There is only one oil available in Thailand that is very healthy for cooking and that is rice bran oil. It is the top oil in Thailand for the money has a very high flashpoint, has a great flavor and it's super healthy and super high in polyunsaturated fatty acids. 

 

The seed oils have a high flash point, but there's a lot of evidence that points towards them being unhealthy for a number of reasons. 

 

Olive oil is also another good choice but it's many times the cost of rice bran oil and coconut oil is also great choice but it really colors the taste of the food, and is also quite expensive. 

[scubascuba3]

On 1/2/2025 at 3:33 PM, dingdongrb said:

After purchasing an Air Fryer a few months back I have been doing nothing but using it for veggies.

 

I cut chunks of broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, potatoes, Bell peppers, mushrooms, and onions......place them in a bowl, spray lightly with a little olive oil, and mix well with some seasonings. 

 

Easy to do, easy to clean up, healthy, and the fresh crispy taste is awesome (IMO).

How long for? what temperature. I tried a couple of times and it just overcooked them, to be fair i didn't experiment further

[OneManShow]

We use light olive oil for low temp fry. We don't do any high temp frying and usually not frying anything. 

[KhunLA]

9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I don't use cooking oil but an airfryer

And you don't spray oil on the food you are air frying ?

 

If not, they cook unevenly, and dry out.  Along with any seasonings don't stick very well to the food.  

 

Not many things go in the air fryer that don't get a bit of oil on it, at our house, or that hasn't been marinated, which sometimes contains oil also.   Not that we use the air fryer that much, just for some protein, if feeling lazy.

 

Our cast iron pans get the most use, and they are basically non stick.  Though do add a bit of oil, tallow or butter, for even heating and or flavor.  And if oil, usually Canola, as healthier on the liver than olive oil or ghee/butter.  Vid link above, verifying the health benefits.

 

Enjoy which ever ... HAPPY MUNCHIN

[scubascuba3]

37 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

And you don't spray oil on the food you are air frying ?

 

If not, they cook unevenly, and dry out.  Along with any seasonings don't stick very well to the food.  

 

Not many things go in the air fryer that don't get a bit of oil on it, at our house, or that hasn't been marinated, which sometimes contains oil also.   Not that we use the air fryer that much, just for some protein, if feeling lazy.

 

Our cast iron pans get the most use, and they are basically non stick.  Though do add a bit of oil, tallow or butter, for even heating and or flavor.  And if oil, usually Canola, as healthier on the liver than olive oil or ghee/butter.  Vid link above, verifying the health benefits.

 

Enjoy which ever ... HAPPY MUNCHIN

Air fryers are very good for cheese and onion on toast, a little known fact

[newbee2022]

34 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

And you don't spray oil on the food you are air frying ?

 

If not, they cook unevenly, and dry out.  Along with any seasonings don't stick very well to the food.  

 

Not many things go in the air fryer that don't get a bit of oil on it, at our house, or that hasn't been marinated, which sometimes contains oil also.   Not that we use the air fryer that much, just for some protein, if feeling lazy.

 

Our cast iron pans get the most use, and they are basically non stick.  Though do add a bit of oil, tallow or butter, for even heating and or flavor.  And if oil, usually Canola, as healthier on the liver than olive oil or ghee/butter.  Vid link above, verifying the health benefits.

 

Enjoy which ever ... HAPPY MUNCHIN

To be honest most times I use the iron cast pans. And sure, either olive or sesame oil. And if I use the air fryer (veggies), for better taste (fat is the flavor carrier) tiny drops of oils if it comes to pork or chicken. 

Without any fat it's getting a bit boring tasteless (though I use spices and herbs (herbes de provence).🤗

[KhunLA]

38 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Air fryers are very good for cheese and onion on toast, a little known fact

 

Who would have thought ...