Starmer Condemns 'Lies and Misinformation' Over Child Sexual Abuse

[theblether]

11 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Ah, so you don't mean "white" then?  Just checking 🙄

 

Did you do any research before using the term (inaccurately)?

 

"The concept of an indigenous population can be complex, especially in regions with a long history of migration and cultural exchange. In the UK, the term "indigenous" is not typically used in the same way as it is in countries like Norway or Canada, where there are recognized indigenous groups with distinct cultural identities.

In the UK, the closest groups that could be considered indigenous are the Scottish Highlands and Islands' Gaelic-speaking communities, the Welsh, and the Cornish people. These groups have distinct languages, cultures, and histories that date back thousands of years. However, they do not have the same legal status or recognition as indigenous peoples elsewhere."

 

My family history has been tracked to the year 1140. Safe to say my family lived in Scotland before my ancestors were first recorded. Right now I live 25 miles away from the burial plot of one of my most famous ancestors, so you can say my branch of this family hasn't traveled far. 

 

Let me point out something to you. Maoris arrived in New Zealand around 1300. By that time my family was involved in the Wallace and Bruce revolutions. You'd call Maoris indigenous but not me? 900 plus years minimum on the same soil? 

 

This "indigenous" term is yet another example of undermining what is regarded as a virtue anywhere else but a vice on the British Isles. Isles that have human history roots older than the vast majority of planet earth. 

 

The only people who come close are the Chinese and Persians. 

 

But we're not allowed to own that fact, to celebrate that fact. We've to listen to mumbling clowns denying our 5000 years plus of continuous living on this tiny isle. 

 

Shameful revisionist history, a denial of the importance of one of the three greatest civilizations in the history of humanity. 

 

These isles created the modern world. 

[theblether]

And the rage felt in the UK can be sourced to the Magna Carta. The first Human Rights Act. 

 

Brits only have one pure and shared culture and that is our 900 year battle to impose fairness through the rule of law. 

 

And now we discover our civic leaders undermined the rule of law to protect child raping scum. 

 

This is beyond a national embarrassment. This is the betrayal of every single person who fought and died for equal rights under the law for centuries. 

 

An appalling, disgusting and irreconcilable betrayal. 

[expat_4_life]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

It’s time to get justice for the victims of the rape gangs.

Why is Starmer afraid of a new inquiry?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

 

It is disingenuous of the Labour government and any posters on here, to say that no further Inquiry is necessary because of the Jay inquiry (IICSA) This issue is now about the hundreds of male Pakistani rape (grooming) gangs, something the IICSA did not focus on specifically, which is what is unquestionably needed.

 

Labour are happy to see local inquiries, which, by definition, won't address failings at a national level, including the role of the CPS in determining how much effort was put in to prosecuting the gangs.

 

The Jay inquiry only focused on 6 case study areas, Tower Hamlets, Bristol, Durham, Warwickshire, St Helens, and Swansea.

The inquiry ignored Oxford, Rotherham, Telford, Rochdale, Oldham, Huddersfield, Newcastle, Bradford, Dewsbury, Keighley, Peterborough, etc, etc, etc, etc. Only a new and fully independent inquiry is acceptable, and there is now a burgeoning groundswell of public opinion that will not be satisfied with anything less.

 

Also, an immediate and separate investigation should be made into the fact that the leader of one of the gangs is still living in Rochdale, close to many of his victims, despite numerous attempts to deport him back to Pakistan.

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

The current episode of Radio 4's The Media Show is essential (and very moving/distressing) listening.  They interview one of the heroes of the grooming/rape gangs history.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0026ncy

[JonnyF]

Richard Tice has said that Reform will be doing their own inquiry, which will be much more effective than some government stitch up job.

 

Let's hope Musk can put his differences of opinion with Farage to one side and funds it before publishing the findings on X for the whole world to see.

 

Not even Starmer could bury his head that deep in the sand.