House Approves Sanctions on ICC Over Netanyahu Arrest Warrant

[jacob29]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The ONLY war crimes to have been committed are those committed by Hamas .

   Israel hasn't committed any war crimes 

Would it be appropriate for Hamas to sanction any international  court investigating this?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, jacob29 said:

Would it be appropriate for Hamas to sanction any international  court investigating this?

 

   No, Hamas are rogues and they need to be either jailed or killed .

They are dead men walking and should be treated as such

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, jacob29 said:

Wasn't even aware he was a Republican, thought rep meant representative. Democrats vs Republicans didn't even cross my mind.

 

Since always, which doesn't mean every instance is deemed a war crimes. Are you suggesting there is no number of civilian collateral deaths, that could be considered excessive?

Since always? Simply not true. I suggest you start here then do some research on IHL Rule 14

 

"Civilians cannot be made the object of an attack, but the death/injury of civilians while conducting an attack on a military objective are governed under principles such as of proportionality and military necessity and can be permissible."

 

Back on topic, here some more reasons why the warrants are worthless, this time from UK experts.

 

The ICC's Credibility Crisis: Why It May Be Beyond Redemption

https://aseannow.com/topic/1345056-the-iccs-credibility-crisis-why-it-may-be-beyond-redemption/

 

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, jacob29 said:

Would it be appropriate for Hamas to sanction any international  court investigating this?

Bizarre response

[JonnyF]

29 minutes ago, jacob29 said:

If you like thuggish threats, yes it was brilliant. Personally not the direction I like to see governments moving in.

 

You don't take a knife to a gun fight.

 

It's about time Western governments took the gloves off. In order to achieve this, weak pearl clutching pandering Liberal/progressive governments will need to be removed.

 

With the exception of the UK that seems to be happening.

 

Better late than never. 

[Patong2021]

13 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

It appears that everyone whose comments are in support of this ridiculous legislation have little or no knowledge of how this originally started. Israel, which did not exist as a country pre WW2 was created by the UN and annexed from Palestine.  The real terrorists in this ongoing saga are Israel, and especially Netanyahu.  First they annexed the Golan Heights from Syria, then they annexed the West Bank & Gaza from Palestine.  The PLO, Hamas etc, whilst internationally labelled as terrorists, are doing nothing different to what Ukraine is currently doing with Russia. Defending their homeland from a terrorist govt continually expanding, and essentially invading, in the past Syria and currently Palestine. under the pretext of their national security.

I'm not a supporter of the methods used by Hamas, BUT Netanyahu has ALWAYS been the instigator in these incursions into Palestinian territory. Netanyahu is the real terrorist here and he should be arrested on site.  This only thing this stupid piece of US legislation does is show the USA's support for a terrorist Prime Minister.

 

Israel most certainly existed as a nation long before WWII. It was called the Kingdom of Israel. This is documented and an historical fact. Would you deny the existence of the Duchys and Principalities of Europe? They went on to  become  countries  known today as Italy, France, Germany etc. 

 

In case you missed it, there was something called the Ottoman Empire. It had control over much of the region called the Middle East for centuries. Israel existed as a part of the Ottoman Empire and was administered as a department  of Damascus. There was no Lebanon, no Jordan, no Saudia Arabia and the borders of  Assyria, Iraq/Babylonia, Persia/Iran were not defined. Nor was there any semblance of a place called Palestine as it is known today. The North African  Arab nations of today were nothing more than feuding tribal and clan differentiations.

 

You deny the existence of modern Israel, and yet, you ignore the fact, that Israel's modern origins also gave rise to Jordan, Lebanon, the  establishment of the Syrian and Iraqi borders, and the creation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. 

 

You wish to deny the existence and legitimacy of Israel. Fine. Then at least be consistent and  deny the right to exist of much of the current Arab nations.

 

The Arabs could have lived in peace with Israel, but they  attacked Israel in 1948 with the stated desire to wipe it out. The arab leadership has been promising to do this since 1948 as it provides an easy distraction from the screwed up mismanaged corrupt  dictatorships that they are.

[Dave0206]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Those iron dome rockets aren't cheap , about $100 000 per rocket .

It would be a good idea to stop Iran and Hamas and the Hothis from firing rockets at Israel 

Well as you say it's a rich country with a gdp of 500 billion so perhaps instead of extending its borders can perhaps think about another avenue for peace or build away and pay the 100.000 per rocket

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Dave0206 said:

Well as you say it's a rich country with a gdp of 500 billion so perhaps instead of extending its borders can perhaps think about another avenue for peace or build away and pay the 100.000 per rocket

 

   Well, what other way to peace would that be ?

Have you got a solution to the problem ?

[Dave0206]

Well unless you kill everyone survivors who lose homes and loved ones will not be hard to convert to hamas isis or any other factions that give them a opportunity to strike back against isreal and the west who only see 1 side .Easy to place the blame 100% on hamas they played right into his hands now he and his war cabinet are indiscriminately bombing the hell out of everyone. 

[jacob29]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

 under principles such as of proportionality and military necessity and can be permissible."

The proportionality principle is implied in my response, why do you think I asked if there any level of casualties that are unacceptable.

 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The ICC's Credibility Crisis: Why It May Be Beyond Redemption

https://aseannow.com/topic/1345056-the-iccs-credibility-crisis-why-it-may-be-beyond-redemption/

 

Once again, I'm talking about the mafia like statement coming from the rep - which ignores the matter of credibly, instead threatening anyone who dares investigate the US or allies. He did not make it conditional on non-credible charges, or hint that if they were credible then there wouldn't be an issue.