Motorcyclist Chases Down Foreign Hit-and-Run Driver in Phuket

[SS1]

11 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Here in Thailand, the official law is all that matters, go to court and you'll find that out. Thailand isn't like the West where laws are interpreted,  what's on the books is all that matters.

 

That is true, but I have heard of court cases of similar accidents where the driver cutting in front was deemed at fault. This is only hearsay though, from foreign car drivers who had similar accidents. 

 

My point was also that you can't really blame Thais for riding on the left, because they've been taught to do so for decades and even fined for not doing so. 

 

 

11 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Exactly, the hit and run is the only offense here, the motorcycle is the one who caused this accident by undertaking illegally using the shoulder (Emergency) lane.

 

"Motorcycle is the one who caused the accident" Are you kidding? Look at the video again. Even the grey car driving correctly has to slam his brakes because of the idiot cutting across. Not saying the rider is in the right here but the car is definitely doing the greater evil. 

[Yellowtail]

13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Exactly, the hit and run is the only offense here, the motorcycle is the one who caused this accident by undertaking illegally using the shoulder (Emergency) lane.

Turning from the right-most lane across the left lane and cutting off a car and a motorcyclist is not illegal in Thailand?

 

You might have had an argument had the car in the left-most lane had turned and struck the motorcycle. 

[Gottfrid]

16 hours ago, snowgard said:

 

Go to a driving school. They will teach & explain it to you. 😉

So, in other words, you couldn´t provide facts for you so far, false claim.

[lordgrinz]

6 hours ago, SS1 said:

 

That is true, but I have heard of court cases of similar accidents where the driver cutting in front was deemed at fault. This is only hearsay though, from foreign car drivers who had similar accidents. 

 

My point was also that you can't really blame Thais for riding on the left, because they've been taught to do so for decades and even fined for not doing so. 

 

 

 

"Motorcycle is the one who caused the accident" Are you kidding? Look at the video again. Even the grey car driving correctly has to slam his brakes because of the idiot cutting across. Not saying the rider is in the right here but the car is definitely doing the greater evil. 

 

If the motorcycle wasn't illegally travelling and undertaking using the shoulder, this never would have happened. Just because the car behind slammed on its brakes says nothing, there was no accident with that car. The accident happened because someone was using the shoulder as a driving lane, and apparently as a passing lane, both of which are illegal here in Thailand.

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

If the motorcycle wasn't illegally travelling and undertaking using the shoulder, this never would have happened. Just because the car behind slammed on its brakes says nothing, there was no accident with that car. The accident happened because someone was using the shoulder as a driving lane, and apparently as a passing lane, both of which are illegal here in Thailand.

 

 

The accident happed because of the careless driving of the Hyundai driver... 

 

I think this supersedes the motorcyclist riding the shoulder...  I've pointed out earlier that this 'shoulder' looks to be used as a left lane by all traffic, cars included (photos of this posted earlier on this thread).

 

Whether riding / or driving in that left lane legally or not, the careless and reckless nature of the Hyundai driver is what caused the accident more so than the actions of any of the other riders / drivers in this situation as the driver has failed to to account for 'normal traffic behavior'....

 

If the Hyundai was turning left from the 'inside' driving lane (not the shoulder) and a motorcyclist sped up the inside and there was a collision - then I'd agree that the motorcyclist is at fault, however, the Hyundai turned blindly from the right most lane without any consideration for traffic in the left hand 'driving' lane (not the shoulder) and is therefore solely at fault (IMO).

 

From a self preservation perspective - the motorcyclist could hold himself accountable and his actions complicit in causing his own injuries because he was not riding carefully or defensively - but from a 'legal-fault' perspective I can only see the Hyundai driver as being at fault here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

18 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Exactly, the hit and run is the only offense here, the motorcycle is the one who caused this accident by undertaking illegally using the shoulder (Emergency) lane.

Turning from the right-most lane across the left lane and cutting off a car and a motorcyclist is not illegal in Thailand?

 

You might have had an argument had the car in the left-most lane had turned and struck the motorcycle. 

 

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