"Climate Change" is causing the LA fires...or is it?

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

in short  - yes!   Imagine a perfect fulcrum in perfect balance - on either end is an identical mass of 1000 tons of rice - because the balance they both hang there - then move one grain of rice from one side to the other - How much is the difference in weight ? = x2 grains of rice and the balance is immediately changes and one side drops down.

And what does your sample have to do with the real world?

Floods, volcanos, tornados, bush fires, etc. exist since forever - long before humans appeared on earth. 

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

you should know.

I didn't continue to argue that point because I definitely am not even close to being a simpleton.  I questioned your climate change assertion and sought information from other verifiable sources. 

In reference to "you should know," you should know it's not wise to resort to name calling and uncalled-for comments.

[MicroB]

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I would love to see the measurement over those years. Who measured? How did they measure? And how was it recorded?

 

As far as I know the oldest handwritten document is less than 5000 years old. And as far as I know that wasn't about the weather.

I am looking forward seeing your documents from the 133,000 years before that.

 

 

Ah, you are one of those creationist types, who believe fossils were planted by the Devil to test us.. After all, how do you know they are 50, 100, 200 million years old?

[Hummin]

Should the houses be rebuilt in the very same critical areas? 

 

I guess there is possible to built firewalls and make the area safe, and for now at least 20-30 years before there will be any danger for a large fire again, but we all know, we humans tends to build in critical areas out of convenience. 

 

The place I wanted to move in Brazil, experience their worst 3 years drought in man made history

 

The droughts of 2023 and 2024 cover an area of 5 million square kilometers—more than half of Brazil's territory—affecting over 70% of municipalities, with 201 classified as experiencing extreme dryness. In addition to natural events like El Niño, there's no denying that human activity is driving these droughts.

 

Brazil is burning. Between January and August 2024, the National Institute for Space Research (INPE) recorded over 110,000 wildfires that have burned through 114,000 km2—an alarming 116% increase compared to the same period last year. While the fires have spread across the country, they are concentrated in the Legal Amazon states of Mato Grosso, Pará, Amazonas, and Tocantins, as well as in Mato Grosso do Sul, home to about 22 million people. This crisis follows devastating floods in Rio Grande do Sul in June, which killed more than 200 people and displaced nearly 400,000 more

 

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/brazil-burning-fires-drought-and-looming-environmental-crisis

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

Ah, you are one of those creationist types, who believe fossils were planted by the Devil to test us.. After all, how do you know they are 50, 100, 200 million years old?

I know that can be measured. I just checked how accurate, see below.

One of the problems with the climate change activists is that they proclaim to know that 1 or 2 degrees make a huge difference. But they don't want to look too far into the past to find out that the earth temperature varied significantly more in the past millions of years.

 

From www.perplexity.ai

 

The method used to determine the age of fossils is called radiometric dating, with carbon-14 dating being one of the most well-known techniques for dating organic materials.

Accuracy of Radiometric Dating
Carbon-14 Dating: This method is effective for dating materials up to about 50,000 years old. Its accuracy can vary based on factors such as contamination and the preservation of the sample, but when properly applied, it can provide ages within a few hundred years.

 

Other Radiometric Methods: Techniques like uranium-lead dating or potassium-argon dating are used for much older fossils, ranging from millions to billions of years. These methods can achieve high precision, often within a few million years depending on the half-lives of the isotopes used.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Should the houses be rebuilt in the very same critical areas? 

 

I guess there is possible to built firewalls and make the area safe, and for now at least 20-30 years before there will be any danger for a large fire again, but we all know, we humans tends to build in critical areas out of convenience. 

 

I asked an AI a similar question a week or two ago. It seems that some of the areas which now burned were significantly cheaper than other areas in that expensive big area. And that was at least part of the reason why people lived there - even if they should have known that there was a significant risk.

 

Also, the fire-insurance was/is extremely high or not possible to get in some cases. That should be a big red warning sign in everybody's mind. 

[Red Phoenix]

Smart comment by Amy Sukwan on this photo of this 'miraculously' saved house in Altadena, California.

Source: https://sukwan.substack.com/p/midday-memes-5ba

 

I have a few questions regarding this Holy blessing. Did it involve large sums of money changing hands? Did this person have a smart meter? Based on what is least damaged we should be studying everything that guy did. Either that or perhaps we should be building tree houses.

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Smart comment by Amy Sukwan on this photo of this 'miraculously' saved house in Altadena, California.

Source: https://sukwan.substack.com/p/midday-memes-5ba

 

I have a few questions regarding this Holy blessing. Did it involve large sums of money changing hands? Did this person have a smart meter? Based on what is least damaged we should be studying everything that guy did. Either that or perhaps we should be building tree houses.

Have you fact checked the story, if that picture is real, it looks like a miracle to me

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I asked an AI a similar question a week or two ago. It seems that some of the areas which now burned were significantly cheaper than other areas in that expensive big area. And that was at least part of the reason why people lived there - even if they should have known that there was a significant risk.

 

Also, the fire-insurance was/is extremely high or not possible to get in some cases. That should be a big red warning sign in everybody's mind. 

At least they have clean air in LA

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

At least they have clean air in LA

 

 

I also have clean air in Thailand, in the middle of Bangkok. A high floor in a high building has lots of advantages. 

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I also have clean air in Thailand, in the middle of Bangkok. A high floor in a high building has lots of advantages. 

I have clean air in my room to in Isaan, air purifier. 

 

High rise buildings do not prevent bad air quality, only if they have decent air system, or you buy an air purifier. 

 

I enjoy outdoor life, and thats my problem, I do not thrive inside at all

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have clean air in my room to, air purifier. 

 

High rise buildings do not prevent bad air quality, only if they have decent air system, or you buy an air purifier 

 

I have an air purifier. But even if that is off and I had my windows open half a day, then when I switch it on I have now an AQI about 20 - without the air purifier working. I am about 100m above ground level. The air is better up here. 😉

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I have an air purifier. But even if that is off and I had my windows open half a day, then when I switch it on I have now an AQI about 20 - without the air purifier working. I am about 100m above ground level. The air is better up here. 😉

I did the same test, and trust me, it shows 20 here to, but surprise it is closer to 100 outside

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I have an air purifier. But even if that is off and I had my windows open half a day, then when I switch it on I have now an AQI about 20 - without the air purifier working. I am about 100m above ground level. The air is better up here. 😉

And again today

 

 

 

[Woke to Sounds]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

I have a few questions regarding this Holy blessing. Did it involve large sums of money changing hands? Did this person have a smart meter? Based on what is least damaged we should be studying everything that guy did. Either that or perhaps we should be building tree houses.

Why are the trees unaffected?

 

Did the man's property have fencing with iron nails and was that fencing burnt at the nail joints?

 

If there is a God why would God spare this man and nobody else? Hardly a merciful God then.

 

Is this Photoshopped?  (thereby rendering the above 3 questions null and void...)

[Red Phoenix]

33 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Why are the trees unaffected?

Did the man's property have fencing with iron nails and was that fencing burnt at the nail joints?

If there is a God why would God spare this man and nobody else? Hardly a merciful God then.

Is this Photoshopped?  (thereby rendering the above 3 questions null and void...)

 

> I don't think it was photo-shopped, but I admit I have no way of checking that. 

However, there were similar completely spared buildings and trees in devastated burnt-to-the-ground areas in Maui, Hawai in August 2023. 

[kingstonkid]

17 hours ago, Airalee said:

The majority of the people who lost their homes in both Pacific Palisades and Altadena are too poor to replace their homes.   The fires supposedly have caused over $250 Billion in damage and there is only an estimated $20-30 billion in insured losses.  Most have no insurance either through cancellation of their policies or they just couldn’t afford it in the first place.  The California FAIR program only has about $750 million with an additional $2 or 3 billion in reinsurance.

 

Most people are conditioned to think people in those areas are super-rich…but they aren’t.  Even though the average house in PP was $3.5 million and $1.2 million in Altadena, most of them are/were house rich (millionaires on paper only), and many of the homes were either bought a long time ago or inherited by children who also inherited the prop 13 tax basis (1/10th of what the people who bought recently) so could afford to hold onto the homes….barely.

 

Here’s some info on the incomes of the people who lived there….most will be lucky to afford a decent 1br condo when all is said and done.

 

 

That sucks but still the people voted in these idiots and the fires have nothing to do with climate change.

[Hummin]

37 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

there were similar completely spared buildings and trees in devastated burnt-to-the-ground areas in Maui, Hawai in August 2023. 

Same source? 

[kwilco]

9 hours ago, ukrules said:

I've seen images of simple little devices found around raging forest fires which are designed to start them.

They consist of 2 or 3 'twig' like branches of wood from trees stuck into the ground and have a magnifying glass held in place on them - they hold it in place perfectly to focus the sunlight when it comes the next day.

These are found in many places where wildfires 'break out'. Some of them fail and they get found but I can not find the images on the internet anywhere these days - they have been 100% scrubbed from existence. Now I guess it's not a great idea to provide instructions to would be arsonists but this is the level they are operating at - for many many years.
 

So...why can they be started???

[Red Phoenix]

 

59 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

there were similar completely spared buildings and trees in devastated burnt-to-the-ground areas in Maui, Hawai in August 2023. 

 

22 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Same source? 

 

Nope, but you might be interested in this article by Kyle M. Young who provides some compelling evidence in his substack that the LA forest-fires, just like those in Maui, were 'helped' by DEW (direct energy weaponry).

> https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/a-forensics-examination-of-video

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Why are the trees unaffected?

 

Did the man's property have fencing with iron nails and was that fencing burnt at the nail joints?

 

If there is a God why would God spare this man and nobody else? Hardly a merciful God then.

 

Is this Photoshopped?  (thereby rendering the above 3 questions null and void...)

Some people just got lucky I guess.    Here’s an article about it.

 

https://apnews.com/article/california-wildfires-last-remaining-untouched-homes-photo-gallery-5adfbac6e9d52ffaed5126b7d7469733

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

So...why can they be started???

What do you mean?

Some of these devices were placed in the wrong locations, the others would have been burned and melted.

There were fires.

[kwilco]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

What do you mean?

Some of these devices were placed in the wrong locations, the others would have been burned and melted.

There were fires.

So why were there fires?

[3NUMBAS]

Maybe Putin arsonists started fires 

 

trump said drill baby drill 

[Hawaiian]

On 1/15/2025 at 7:10 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I am sure some numbers can be "calculated" from fossils and all those things. But how accurately? 

It seems now the climate activists like to tell us that not even 2 degrees temperature change over 100 years make a catastrophic difference. Do we really know if 10,000 years ago 100,000 years ago or it was a degree or two warmer or cooler than now? 

This is one way.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_measurement

                              https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/how-do-we-know-the-temperature-on-earth-millions-of-years-ago.html

[kwilco]

useful animated graphic.......

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1373623640789996

 

[kwilco]

On 1/16/2025 at 5:10 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I am sure some numbers can be "calculated" from fossils and all those things. But how accurately? 

It seems now the climate activists like to tell us that not even 2 degrees temperature change over 100 years make a catastrophic difference. Do we really know if 10,000 years ago 100,000 years ago or it was a degree or two warmer or cooler than now? 

not activists - scientists.

[kwilco]

On 1/16/2025 at 5:10 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

But how accurately? 

this just shows how people fail to understand the science -VERY ACCURATELY.

[Airalee]

All the people who try to force me into a climate change discussion seem to be incredibly stressed out by it.
 

They are the same people who only seem to want to discuss things like

 

1. Politics (that they can’t control)

 

2. Wars that don’t involve them yet they vehemently defend one country or another that never even registered on their radar until CNN or the NYTimes told them about it.

 

3.  LGBTQ rights even though they’re straight

 

4. The social justice issue du jour even though they’re quite privileged  

 

5. BLM even though they’re white

 

I’ll bet the stress of keeping up with the current thing is going to drive them to an early grave so I guess, yeah….climate change is killing (some of) us.

 

My personal opinion on it all is “don’t know, don’t care”….but mocking it is fun 😄

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, kwilco said:

not activists - scientists.

Scientists measure and calculate.

Activists take bits of what scientists say and then then shout a lot and pretend they know it all.