Irish diver’s fate revealed on Thailand’s ‘Death Island’

[KhunHeineken]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Neither, he was in his hotel room.

Oh.

 

I'm guessing toxicology results will be important in this case.  

[josephbloggs]

7 hours ago, Wavel said:

My condolences to the family for the sad loss. I don’t know the circumstances of the young lad’s death, but Unfortunately in Thailand corruption is rife in every single warp of life & wherever a Bhat can be made it will be. I have never dived myself but have met quite a few in the past and have been told that when the bottles are filled perhaps they don’t get filled to 100% so there’s a scim off the top for the price of the bottle. As I say I don’t know the circumstances but this is a practice that goes on.

So you admit you don't know the circumstances, you have never dived, but "people" (in bars?) have told you that goes on.

Ie. you know nothing but you felt the need to post your ignorant nonsense.

As others have already said it would be immediately noticeable by any idea if this made up practice was "going on".

AN bar stool conspiracy theory dreamers, where would we be without them?

[KhunLA]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Got himself killed"?   He died in his hotel room lying on the bed.

DSC can happen hours, or even a day or so after scuba diving.

[save the frogs]

there was a thread about this topic a while back.

all the people who die seem to be divers?

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

17 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

So you admit you don't know the circumstances, you have never dived, but "people" (in bars?) have told you that goes on.

Ie. you know nothing but you felt the need to post your ignorant nonsense.

As others have already said it would be immediately noticeable by any idea if this made up practice was "going on".

AN bar stool conspiracy theory dreamers, where would we be without them?

The same was said about the overloaded speed boats from Samui to Koh Phangan, with the drunk skippers, on full moon party nights. 

 

Anything that "tarnishes" Thailand's tourism industry, the response is the same, deny, deny deny.  When the death toll got so bad they put a Thai Navy check point in between the islands.

 

Then, there was the bed bug spray in a hotel in Chiang Mai, and elsewhere.  Deny, deny, deny until the family of one deceased had an independent autopsy done in their home country and the truth was undeniable.  

 

There's also the methanol poisoning from Lao Khao.  We have just seen the tragedy in Laos.  It happens in Thailand also. Deny, deny, deny.  

 

There's also the coach bus crashes that's killed hundreds here.  The bus driver, Somchai, is on 300 baht a day, the cheapest he company could get, and he has so many lives in his hands. 

 

Do I know for certain this practice of under filling tanks happens, no. 

 

Would it surprise me if it did happen, no, and that's the sad thing about Thailand, MONEY NUMBER ONE, so cut safety corners, maximize profits, and life is cheap.   

[rattlesnake]

On 1/16/2025 at 8:31 AM, ukrules said:

Ah yes, there's a lot of this kind of thing going around lately.

Know of a couple of cases myself. People dropping dead, brain bleeds, clots in the lungs, etc, etc. All young.

The old, no idea but it's noticeable in the young.

 

Indeed, and we know what's causing it.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The same was said about the overloaded speed boats from Samui to Koh Phangan, with the drunk skippers, on full moon party nights. 

 

Anything that "tarnishes" Thailand's tourism industry, the response is the same, deny, deny deny.  When the death toll got so bad they put a Thai Navy check point in between the islands.

 

Then, there was the bed bug spray in a hotel in Chiang Mai, and elsewhere.  Deny, deny, deny until the family of one deceased had an independent autopsy done in their home country and the truth was undeniable.  

 

There's also the methanol poisoning from Lao Khao.  We have just seen the tragedy in Laos.  It happens in Thailand also. Deny, deny, deny.  

 

There's also the coach bus crashes that's killed hundreds here.  The bus driver, Somchai, is on 300 baht a day, the cheapest he company could get, and he has so many lives in his hands. 

 

Do I know for certain this practice of under filling tanks happens, no. 

 

Would it surprise me if it did happen, no, and that's the sad thing about Thailand, MONEY NUMBER ONE, so cut safety corners, maximize profits, and life is cheap.   

Underfilling tanks doesn't happen and even if it would it wouldn't make it unsafe.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The same was said about the overloaded speed boats from Samui to Koh Phangan, with the drunk skippers, on full moon party nights. 

 

Anything that "tarnishes" Thailand's tourism industry, the response is the same, deny, deny deny.  When the death toll got so bad they put a Thai Navy check point in between the islands.

 

Then, there was the bed bug spray in a hotel in Chiang Mai, and elsewhere.  Deny, deny, deny until the family of one deceased had an independent autopsy done in their home country and the truth was undeniable.  

 

There's also the methanol poisoning from Lao Khao.  We have just seen the tragedy in Laos.  It happens in Thailand also. Deny, deny, deny.  

 

There's also the coach bus crashes that's killed hundreds here.  The bus driver, Somchai, is on 300 baht a day, the cheapest he company could get, and he has so many lives in his hands. 

 

Do I know for certain this practice of under filling tanks happens, no. 

 

Would it surprise me if it did happen, no, and that's the sad thing about Thailand, MONEY NUMBER ONE, so cut safety corners, maximize profits, and life is cheap.   

 

   Have a great weekend everyone . 

[Phillip9]

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Do I know for certain this practice of under filling tanks happens, no. 

 

Would it surprise me if it did happen, no,

 

If they under filled the tank, it would be completely obvious to the diver.  All diving gear has a simple pressure gauge that displays the air left in the tank.  Divers check the air gauge frequently while diving.  Even if the tanks were under filled, it wouldn't make the dive unsafe -- Divers are trained to end the dive when the tank gets below 25% remaining.

 

There is no reason or benefit to under filling tanks anyway.  Most divers just use compressed air which costs nothing, so the company wouldn't be saving any money by under filling tanks.

 

The whole idea that the tanks might have been under filled is the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet.......

 

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Underfilling tanks doesn't happen

Nothing happens here that "tarnishes" Thailand's tourism industry.  It's always the tourist's fault. 

 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

How can you say it didn't happen in this case?  Were you there?

 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

even if it would it wouldn't make it unsafe.

Young diver, going for a dive, throws a tank on, tank SHOULD be full, gauge says down a bit.  Assumes gauge is inaccurate, continues with the dive regardless.  Recipe for disaster. 

 

Not saying that's what happened in this case, but you can't say the tanks here are ALWAYS full, can you? 

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Have a great weekend everyone . 

Yes, and stay safe out there.

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

If they under filled the tank, it would be completely obvious to the diver.  All diving gear has a simple pressure gauge that displays the air left in the tank.

That's my understand, and as an experienced diver, I would have expected this guy to abort the dive and recheck equipment. 

 

Once again, I am not saying that's what happened in this case, just saying, I would not be surprised if the practice happened.

 

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

Divers check the air gauge frequently while diving.  Even if the tanks were under filled, it wouldn't make the dive unsafe -- Divers are trained to end the dive when the tank gets below 25% remaining.

 

I accept this, but the question remains, is it possible tanks are under filled?  That's a yes or no answer.

 

Perhaps it's a money spinning idea.  Less air in tanks, shorter dives, more divers / dives in a day.  MONEY NUMBER ONE here.  

 

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

There is no reason or benefit to under filling tanks anyway.  Most divers just use compressed air which costs nothing, so the company wouldn't be saving any money by under filling tanks.

I addressed this above.  

 

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

The whole idea that the tanks might have been under filled is the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet.....

I didn't post it first.  I just said it would not surprise me, and gave other examples of the many deaths that occur in Thailand for similar reasons.  

 

It's not always the blind drunk backpacker on a motor scooter speeding that crashes and dies.  In many cases, and I have named a few, and you can check them out, the Thai's are to blame.    

[josephbloggs]

47 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

That's my understand, and as an experienced diver, I would have expected this guy to abort the dive and recheck equipment. 

 

Once again, I am not saying that's what happened in this case, just saying, I would not be surprised if the practice happened.

 

I accept this, but the question remains, is it possible tanks are under filled?  That's a yes or no answer.

 

Perhaps it's a money spinning idea.  Less air in tanks, shorter dives, more divers / dives in a day.  MONEY NUMBER ONE here.  

 

I addressed this above.  

 

I didn't post it first.  I just said it would not surprise me, and gave other examples of the many deaths that occur in Thailand for similar reasons.  

 

It's not always the blind drunk backpacker on a motor scooter speeding that crashes and dies.  In many cases, and I have named a few, and you can check them out, the Thai's are to blame.    

Air is expensive, so they could have filled the tank with old leftover soup. Money number one here. Maybe he was so excited by his dive he didn't check if his tank had soup in it instead of air - could easily happen. Thais are to blame, remember. More soup in tanks = less money spent = less dives as divers return to the surface as they are full of soup. Typical Thai greed!!

And then the get out: I am not saying that did happen, but it could easily have happened due to tired of AN cliches like "money number one", "wouldn't surprise me", "could easily happen with Thais" etc.

Even for the normal paranoid anti-Thai AN detective work we always see here you have taken it to a new level. Sad life.

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Air is expensive, so they could have filled the tank with old leftover soup.

Philip9 says "air costs nothing."  Who and what to believe? 

 

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Money number one here. Maybe he was so excited by his dive he didn't check if his tank had soup in it instead of air - could easily happen. Thais are to blame, remember. More soup in tanks = less money spent = less dives as divers return to the surface as they are full of soup. Typical Thai greed!!

Seen it in other tourism sectors here.  Why would diving be any different? 

 

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

And then the get out: I am not saying that did happen, but it could easily have happened due to tired of AN cliches like "money number one", "wouldn't surprise me", "could easily happen with Thais" etc.

Well, we wouldn't want to "defame" a diving company, would we? 

 

They can sue for defamation, which means gaol time.  Thus, no freedom of speech around the incident, but hey, the Thai tourism industry must be protected at all and any cost. 

 

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Even for the normal paranoid anti-Thai AN detective work we always see here you have taken it to a new level. Sad life.

No, just not as naive as you, but then again, I guess you are the sort of guy that actually believes your girl is "different."  Do try to think outside of the square sometimes. 

 

MONEY NUMBER ONE here.  Go on the record.  Do you agree or disagree with this term?   

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Philip9 says "air costs nothing."  Who and what to believe? 

I don't know. I said air is very expensive. How much do you pay for yours?

 

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Well, we wouldn't want to "defame" a diving company, would we? 

 

They can sue for defamation, which means gaol time.  Thus, no freedom of speech around the incident, but hey, the Thai tourism industry must be protected at all and any cost. 

Er, what? Do you really believe they filled the tanks with soup? Seems you take things very literally.

 

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No, just not as naive as you, but then again, I guess you are the sort of guy that actually believes your girl is "different."  Do try to think outside of the square sometimes. 

Sorry if you only have experience with prostitutes. I believe they are mostly the same which explains your thinking. Non prostitutes are "different". Girls of a similar age to you are "different". You have a bitter outlook if you believe all Thai women are the same and out to get you, very very sad.

 

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MONEY NUMBER ONE here.  Go on the record.  Do you agree or disagree with this term?   

Yes, happy to go on the record that this is just a ridiculous AN cliche used by bitter old men here who have a sad outlook on life, and possibly those that have been burned by prostitutes due to their own naivety. It in no way reflects the majority of the population. I have been here nearly 30 years and vehemently disagree with your hackneyed rubbish.

Why don't you go on the record and tell us what happened to you that causes you to besmirch an entire country with such a bitter and silly claim? What makes you so bitter? I've gone on the record, now your turn.