Pitbull mauls monk to death in gruesome Nonthaburi temple attack

[Chongalulu]

3 hours ago, proton said:

 

They need to be banned and put down, you cannot train aggression out of them, and they are all a threat to life

Bit of a harsh assessment of the orange robed fraternity….

[BusyB]

3 hours ago, edwardflory said:

Monk with a car is nothing. I remember reading about a monk that has a private JET.

 

I suspect things like that get put on the temple accounts so the abbot theoretically doesn't 'own' them.

[smew]

Not first nor last occurrence. Happens all the time, chemical castration of all the soi dogs. Pit bulls are dangerous and should be controlled who can have them or not. A license should be required for such dogs 

[PETERTHEEATER]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

With the abbot now gone, the future of Jord hangs in the balance

Where did the abbot go? 🤔

[black tabby12345]

I have met quite a number of attempted dog attacks in the past.

Even in the temple yard.

That is why I always carry this with me when I am out and about...

 

 

 

 

[Andre0720]

Oh, this topic again.

Well, let me look, so I can copy and paste the response...

[blaze master]

5 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Hope the put down the dog.

 

More than likely some food will be thrown on the road for the beast to lap up.

[Robespierre]

5 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Why is a monk in possession of a car? Does not seem to accord with the vow of poverty. 
 

Pit bulls and similar breeds are inherently bred for aggression and territorial defence, and need to be properly trained and controlled, or preferably not bred at all.

 

Unlike GSDs, terriers, labradors, retrievers and Malinois, they serve no useful purpose. Thailand has too many stray and uncontrolled dogs already without allowing these vanity breeds. Time to ban them as so many other countries have already done.

 

[soalbundy]

bad boy!!

[Robespierre]

Just now, Robespierre said:

Always thought that pitbulls were a banned breed in Thailand. Maybe this dog was trained to protect the deceased s valuables.

 

[Robespierre]

5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Pit bulls need to be walked extensively, 3 times a day. Very few people, in Thailand or in any other country, are ready and willing to do this.  The raising of pit bulls should therefore be banned world-wide, and the breed allowed to die out. 

Aren’t they already a banned breed in Thailand? Any Thai police on this thread?

[zepplin]

6 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said:

All pit-bulls should be eradicated. I hate those pitbulls. Normally, people use them as bodyguards, not like normal pets.

I live in Thailand and have had pit bulls for 15 years , first two killed by cobra snakes, now have two , fantastic dogs, very friendly, great with people, even all our builders workers like them and are not afraid. 
it is purely how you raise them and how much exercise they get-and interaction with people! I don’t “ use” them as bodyguards, and to say all should be eradicated, just shows your ignorance! 

[zepplin]

7 hours ago, proton said:

 

It IS the dogs fault, Pitbulls are no more suitable as pets then an alligator, they are DANGEROUS ANIMALS

 No, as a pit bull owner for 15 years, I totally disagree, all of my dogs would lick you , not bite you, that poor monk was just given a problem dog, and he had no idea what to do! Sad but that’s the truth! 
people kill 25000 people here with cars, trucks and bikes, want to ban all of that too?

[khaowong1]

11 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

That the dog breed need to be banned, there is no doubt about.

What I react to, is posters here who post like below:

 

 

That just reeks of poor knowledge. There is nothing unusual with monks that owns cars. They are everywhere. If the Thais not question their spiritual leaders regarding that, who are we to do it?

Exactly..  Farlangs have this fantasy where all monks live in caves, starving to death, contemplating their navel.  I'm saying if the local population who regularly visit these monks at their temples, have no objection with monks owning computers, cell phones, cars, then who are we to complain and tell them how their monks should behave.  

[Jing Joe]

Smew said in part:-   chemical castration of all the soi dogs.

Jing joe says:- surgical castration somewhere near their collar.

[Jing Joe]

What ! only 3 pages so far about yet another tragedy?

  Must be getting used to the sad events, and nothing is being done, and all the lament in these posts doesnt mean a thing.

And there are still those who insist they MUST be trained properly. (or they'll naturallly default to become killers).

 

 

[Dene16]

19 hours ago, bugger bognor said:

Open your eyes at the way many animals are treated here nearly all dogs are territorial here ! Many Thais keep guard dogs like pitbulls rottweilers etc no training only food and water by there masters, are you aware that many dogs and unwanted puppies especially problematic dogs are taken and dropped at temples all around

I doubt anyone would disagree with your comment however your reasoning  looks past the fact that all pitbulls need to be banned and neutered so they eventually die out. This dog will attack again. Next time it might be someone's child!

Some years back the monkhood asked that the populace  stop dropping litters off at the temple. My partners cousin , alone, had left approx. 10+ in the last 18 months. and does so every year on a regular basis.

The show of dogs running around the temple is just a front, if all the dogs dropped at the temple were kept there would be thousands upon thousands at every temple.

Some people actually realise that, others just ignore the reality of what really happens to these litters.

[Gottfrid]

19 hours ago, mancub said:

Because "we ". well most of us. have attained a degree of intelligence and knowledge that enables and permits us to ?

So, in other words you are saying Thais do not have a degree of intelligence or knowledge. You have, so you are entitled to.

First, I must ask why in the world are you interested of making discussions here, if you do not respect the people in the country the forum is about? Maybe you even live in Thailand. In that case, I feel sad for the Thais that have to be around you.

Second, this is not your country. If you are living in Thailand, you are a guest. In reality, not entitled to anything. Neither do you have more knowledge nor understanding of Thai culture than the Thai people. In other word, you are just posting total crap and B.S.

[Gottfrid]

21 hours ago, bugger bognor said:

Open your eyes at the way many animals are treated here nearly all dogs are territorial here ! Many Thais keep guard dogs like pitbulls rottweilers etc no training only food and water by there masters, are you aware that many dogs and unwanted puppies especially problematic dogs are taken and dropped at temples all around Thailand so monks will feed them and take care of them this dog was most likely taken there so don't be a <deleted> and think before you speak 

We are talking about a Pitbull here. Same as Rottweiler and other fighting dog breeds. You can spend how much time you like posting that they must be trained and other rubbish. We all know they are ticking bombs, that are totally unpredictable and can attack at any given second. The sensible thing to do, is to eradicate these breeds from the planet. Preferably before it´s too late, as they now start to spread into the stray dog population as well.

 

While you go on with that they must be trained, you of course have a point. Naturally, it will be better with a trained dog, than an untrained. That goes for all breeds and for all types of animals. However, both you and me know that is not the fact, as many people just let their animals be except for give water and food. Some also let them run free, which is very common in Thailand. That makes them cross breed and merge into the population of strays. So, in Thailand it´s definitely needed to ban and eradicate the aggressive breeds.

[Gottfrid]

21 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Just because something is common, it does not make it right or OK.

 

 

We are free to question anything we want.  If we want to share an observation or opinion on Thai politics, crime or religion, who are you to say we cannot?

If Thai culture and Thai people accepts it, then there is neither anything wrong.

I never said you can´t question. I posed the question, who are we to do it?

[steven100]

Well,   no pity here as Thais will never learn.  They allow soi dogs to roam free on beaches and the streets everywhere just ready to bite and attack the elderly or kids.  

[steven100]

17 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Where did the abbot go? 🤔

well .....  some of him went into a box ... and some of him went into feeding a dog .... and some of him is still missing.

[PETERTHEEATER]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

well .....  some of him went into a box ... and some of him went into feeding a dog .... and some of him is still missing.

Er.....no. That was the victim not the abbot.

[steven100]

1 minute ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Er.....no. That was the victim not the abbot.

haha ... oh dear '  sorry about that .. Well,  lets just say some of the monk went missing.

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

If Thai culture and Thai people accepts it, then there is neither anything wrong.

 

No, even if Thai people accept something, it can still be wrong.  If there are a set of rules that monks are supposed to live by in Thailand, and one of them breaks that you, anyone is free to point that out, even if some Thai people do not care.

 

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I never said you can´t question. I posed the question, who are we to do it?

 

"Who are we too..." is a rhetorical question that means "We are not in a position to...", so yes, you did say that we cannot/should not question.

[Ctkong]

On 1/21/2025 at 1:34 PM, Rinato said:

Normally ilis the lay community that buy a car for a monk, specially if he has duties, as a secretary, administrator, abbot.

Actually they are not the owners.

They just use something thath has been donated to the temple.

Correct. I have a monk who has a van and volunteer driver to drive him to do home or new business blessings … monks need private transportation too not only public ones.  

[Gottfrid]

5 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

No, even if Thai people accept something, it can still be wrong.  If there are a set of rules that monks are supposed to live by in Thailand, and one of them breaks that you, anyone is free to point that out, even if some Thai people do not care.

 

 

"Who are we too..." is a rhetorical question that means "We are not in a position to...", so yes, you did say that we cannot/should not question.

No, I did not. And, you do not decide what is right or wrong in Thailand.

[black tabby12345]

Phra Bannadit, who served as secretary to the abbot, had adopted Jord over a year ago when the dog was just a puppy.

 

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Brutally murdering the man who kindly fostered it.

The real Bast*rd.

Deserves to be put down immediately, as painfully as possible, as punishment.

 

But it is unlikely here.

When it comes to the way to treat dangerous animals that harmed people, 

Thais often demonstrate do-gooder attitude(except for the case of Village Justice in a remote area).

 

Even police arrive at the dog  attack scene, they prefer to use sleep dart, instead of the live rounds.

And I have even  heard of the case where the police officer was fined after shooting the attacking dog dead to protect own family member.

 

Bangkok Post - Policeman 'shot dogs to protect his wife'

 

Being merciful is virtue.

But there is something in this world that doesn't deserve it.

[Bundooman]

On 1/21/2025 at 12:22 PM, Kinok Farang said:

I bet they'll execute it after it kills another monk.

Cruel.

I agree 100%.

I'd execute it straight away, rather than let it continue to be cruel by savaging another human being to death.

Very cruel ending for the monk!

 

[Bundooman]

"Police have launched a thorough investigation, sending the monk’s body to the Institute of Forensic Medicine for a post-mortem to confirm the precise cause of death"

 

Presumably, being savaged to death by a vicious, deadly creature, namely a Pitbull, is not sufficient confirmation to be recorded as the precise cause of death?