Ceasefire in Ukraine.

[bannork]

It's now Wednesday, well over the 24 hours since Trump took office.

Has the fighting stopped as he promised?

[impulse]

Biden had over 2 years to do something about it.  All he did was squander a couple hundred $$ billion.  And the killing and the dying keep going on.  And the cost of rebuilding Ukraine keeps getting more expensive.

 

 

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Biden had over 2 years to do something about it.  All he did was squander a couple hundred $$ billion.  And the killing and the dying keep going on.  And the cost of rebuilding Ukraine keeps getting more expensive.

 

 

Well, it's all over now, isn't it?

[UWEB]

Donald Duck has not kept his promise.

[jas007]

17 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's now Wednesday, well over the 24 hours since Trump took office.

Has the fighting stopped as he promised?

It's just a matter of time. Everyone knows that. The war is over. The killing needs to stop.  Soon enough, Putin and Trump will get together and figure out a solution.  And Zelensky won't have any real say.  Fort him, it's take it or leave it. and if he wants to leave it, he can start spending his own money on an exercise in futility. 

[bannork]

9 minutes ago, jas007 said:

It's just a matter of time. Everyone knows that. The war is over. The killing needs to stop.  Soon enough, Putin and Trump will get together and figure out a solution.  And Zelensky won't have any real say.  Fort him, it's take it or leave it. and if he wants to leave it, he can start spending his own money on an exercise in futility. 

You make a lot of assumptions there.

[SunnyinBangrak]

If the war is over due to Trumps negotiating abilities, i will put my spectacles and gween flouro coat on and scream at the sky in anguish and distress.

Peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Russia and stepping back from the lefts impending nuclear armaggedon and stopping billions of unaccountable $$ being flung around the worlds most corrupt country???

 

Noooooooooooooo!!!! 

[jas007]

22 minutes ago, bannork said:

You make a lot of assumptions there.

 Even if you assume that, I think I'm right.  It's over and it will stop.  The sooner the better. Why kill a bunch of kids when the outcome is already certain?  All those people that die. They're real people with real lives.  Some have families.  Shouldn't they be allowed to live?  You had that privilege.  Shouldn't they? 

 

The people who think war is a good idea?  They're not the ones going to fight.  If they were, the war would already be over. 

[bannork]

29 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 Even if you assume that, I think I'm right.  It's over and it will stop.  The sooner the better. Why kill a bunch of kids when the outcome is already certain?  All those people that die. They're real people with real lives.  Some have families.  Shouldn't they be allowed to live?  You had that privilege.  Shouldn't they? 

 

The people who think war is a good idea?  They're not the ones going to fight.  If they were, the war would already be over. 

Russia invaded a sovereign country.  A country that is independent and has no intention of being under Russian rule, knowing the barbaric nation that it is and its plans to subjugate the Ukrainian people.

The same for all the states that used to be under Russian occupation.

None of them wish to be under Russian rule.

The outcome was supposed to be finished within three weeks, yet here is Ukraine, soon to be three years later, still fighting for its freedom.

Thank God Britain didn't have your attitude in 1940 otherwise I'd be speaking German, 'Heil Donald Trump!'

 

 

[jas007]

45 minutes ago, bannork said:

Russia invaded a sovereign country.  A country that is independent and has no intention of being under Russian rule, knowing the barbaric nation that it is and its plans to subjugate the Ukrainian people.

The same for all the states that used to be under Russian occupation.

None of them wish to be under Russian rule.

The outcome was supposed to be finished within three weeks, yet here is Ukraine, soon to be three years later, still fighting for its freedom.

Thank God Britain didn't have your attitude in 1940 otherwise I'd be speaking German, 'Heil Donald Trump!'

 

 

I think you're conveniently ignoring the history of the region and especially the history of USA meddling around the world to install puppet dictators by way or "regime change."  It's a Neocon fantasy that  finally met its match.  Russia isn't some puny third world country that can be pushed around. Russia has very legitimate security interests. It has a "sphere of influence."  It doesn't want NATO missiles on its border, and rightly so.  The USA wouldn't tolerate Chinese or Russia missile installations in Tijuana.  Why should Russia tolerate NATO forces on their border? Do you have any idea how many Russians lost their lives in WW II?  What was it? 21 million people? 

 

You can pretend it's all about the invasion of a "sovereign country," but it's more than that.  

[SunnyinBangrak]

43 minutes ago, bannork said:

Russia invaded a sovereign country.  A country that is independent and has no intention of being under Russian rule, knowing the barbaric nation that it is and its plans to subjugate the Ukrainian people.

The same for all the states that used to be under Russian occupation.

None of them wish to be under Russian rule.

The outcome was supposed to be finished within three weeks, yet here is Ukraine, soon to be three years later, still fighting for its freedom.

Thank God Britain didn't have your attitude in 1940 otherwise I'd be speaking German, 'Heil Donald Trump!'

 

 

So independent the Americans were effectively running the country and making army bases(and biolabs!) willy nilly - against all treaties and promises. 

Remember Biden famously saying he got Ukrainian prosecutors fired? Yep. A real independent country🤣

[transam]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

 Even if you assume that, I think I'm right.  It's over and it will stop.  The sooner the better. Why kill a bunch of kids when the outcome is already certain?  All those people that die. They're real people with real lives.  Some have families.  Shouldn't they be allowed to live?  You had that privilege.  Shouldn't they? 

 

The people who think war is a good idea?  They're not the ones going to fight.  If they were, the war would already be over. 

I thought it was Putin that started killing and kidnapping kids, isn't that the reason Ukraine is fighting, the same as folk did in 1939...?

 

Idiots move the goal posts on this subject........🙄

[bannork]

30 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I think you're conveniently ignoring the history of the region and especially the history of USA meddling around the world to install puppet dictators by way or "regime change."  It's a Neocon fantasy that  finally met its match.  Russia isn't some puny third world country that can be pushed around. Russia has very legitimate security interests. It has a "sphere of influence."  It doesn't want NATO missiles on its border, and rightly so.  The USA wouldn't tolerate Chinese or Russia missile installations in Tijuana.  Why should Russia tolerate NATO forces on their border? Do you have any idea how many Russians lost their lives in WW II?  What was it? 21 million people? 

 

You can pretend it's all about the invasion of a "sovereign country," but it's more than that.  

The Ukrainians don't want the Russians in their sovereign country. It's as simple as that.

[bannork]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So independent the Americans were effectively running the country and making army bases(and biolabs!) willy nilly - against all treaties and promises. 

Remember Biden famously saying he got Ukrainian prosecutors fired? Yep. A real independent country🤣

So who is doing the fighting in Ukraine against the barbaric Russian invaders?

Yes, you've guessed it, the Ukrainians.

[transam]

Just now, bannork said:

The Ukrainians don't want the Russians in their sovereign country. It's as simple as that.

There are some on here hiding away in their safe bubble country with no thought what-so-ever for the populace of Ukraine. These same people would be on here shouting "Nobody is helping us", if the boot was on the other foot.

 

Bunch of hypocrites.........😒

[bkk6060]

 Zelensky is begging for money again, but I doubt Trump will be sending any.

So, how much longer will it last?

[proton]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

It's now Wednesday, well over the 24 hours since Trump took office.

Has the fighting stopped as he promised?

 

If he had have stoped it by now you would be complaining it took him too long. There wont be any more billions to prolong this butchery that's certain

[Purdey]

Everyone knows that Trump is a man of his word and promised to stop the war "in a day."

I expect it is over already and he kept his word.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/19/us/politics/trump-promise-ending-ukraine-war.html

https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893

 

Who cares what anyone says? He has probably stopped it already but didn't want to boast.

[bannork]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

If he had have stoped it by now you would be complaining it took him too long. There wont be any more billions to prolong this butchery that's certain

 

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

If he had have stoped it by now you would be complaining it took him too long. There wont be any more billions to prolong this butchery that's certain

You're right, the Russians and North Koreans are getting slaughtered every day.

 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

It's just a matter of time. Everyone knows that. The war is over. The killing needs to stop.  Soon enough, Putin and Trump will get together and figure out a solution.  And Zelensky won't have any real say.  Fort him, it's take it or leave it. and if he wants to leave it, he can start spending his own money on an exercise in futility. 

Zelensky will go into exile with all the $$ he has earn from being the Blackrock & MICs  puppet.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Everyone knows that Trump is a man of his word and promised to stop the war "in a day."

I expect it is over already and he kept his word.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/19/us/politics/trump-promise-ending-ukraine-war.html

https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893

 

Who cares what anyone says? He has probably stopped it already but didn't want to boast.

 

You've apparently never been in sales.

 

[bannork]

Just now, frank83628 said:

Zelensky will go into exile with all the $$ he has earn from being the Blackrock & MICs  puppet.

I love these predictions. Like the war would be over in three days ( Putin) or 24 hours ( Trump). What a load of tommyrot.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

It's now Wednesday, well over the 24 hours since Trump took office.

Has the fighting stopped as he promised?

 

  Trump did actually say that he could end the war within 24 hours after meeting both Putin and Zelensky , he didn't say they he would end the war within 24 hours of becoming President 

 

https://www.wsj.com/video/watch-trump-says-as-president-hed-settle-ukraine-war-within-24-hours/0BCA9F18-D3BF-43DA-9220-C13587EAEDF2?mod=WSJvidctr_upnext_pos3

[transam]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Zelensky will go into exile with all the $$ he has earn from being the Blackrock & MICs  puppet.

Oh, here we have factual insider information from Putin's Western Allie.........😒

[Briggsy]

It is quite remarkable how the MAGA bunch just go along with Putin narratives because they have been told to. If Trump flipped, they would all flip their views and talking points.

 

Putin is conducting an invasion of a European country. His troops have slaughtered and raped thousands of Ukrainians, bombed their cities, kidnapped huge numbers of children and imprisoned and murdered those in Russia who oppose him.

 

This is a pivotal moment in the history of the World just as the coming down of the Berlin Wall was. Just because the current president of the United States is in hock to Putin for bankrolling him when he was bankrupt and no bank in the West would touch him and who knows what blackmail threats, is no reason to risk the lives of millions of Europeans by caving to a tyrant.

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You've apparently never been in sales.

 

Yes, look how they reacted at 'bloodbath', rational and common sense goes out the window when it comes to these guys and anything Trumps says, the 3 banned  letter acronym in full effect.

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

I love these predictions. Like the war would be over in three days ( Putin) or 24 hours ( Trump). What a load of tommyrot.

Google the word 'facetious'. It might help you with these threads

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Google the word 'facetious'. It might help you with these threads

You look up, "Traitor", it may help you with these threads.......😒

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

It is quite remarkable how the MAGA bunch just go along with Putin narratives because they have been told to. If Trump flipped, they would all flip their views and talking points.

 

Putin is conducting an invasion of a European country. His troops have slaughtered and raped thousands of Ukrainians, bombed their cities, kidnapped huge numbers of children and imprisoned and murdered those in Russia who oppose him.

 

This is a pivotal moment in the history of the World just as the coming down of the Berlin Wall was. Just because the current president of the United States is in hock to Putin for bankrolling him when he was bankrupt and no bank in the West would touch him and who knows what blackmail threats, is no reason to risk the lives of millions of Europeans by caving to a tyrant.

What a crock, you should leave the BBC channel alone for a bit

[transam]

Just now, frank83628 said:

What a crock, you should leave the BBC channel alone for a bit

And you, your Putin handlers handbook...........😒