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22 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

many details of the proposed "deal" are publicly available, for example here:

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/fact-sheet-istanbul-protocol-draft-document-april-15-2022

and here

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html

(this link possibly has a paywall, but I already accessed it freely)

 

you will see that the proposal was totally unacceptable.

So, did Zelensky’s trip to the US achieve anything other than to PO the POTUS?

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

So, did Zelensky’s trip to the US achieve anything other than to PO the POTUS?

It's nothing to the left but an attempt to humiliated Trump. They really care nothing about Ukraine, if they did, they would have spoken up when Obama threw Ukraine under the bus for a bit of space until after his second election. 

 

Hypocrites 

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Posted
7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Of course he won't.

Zelensky should take the deal as he is unlikely to get a better. Let's be clear, Zelensky is NOT the big dog here, he came to the US as a beggar, not as the guy in charge.

Was it a trap, as some surmise? If it was, Zelensky jumped into it boots and all, and should have known better. Seems like he doesn't know how to deal with Trump, who is the man with ALL the cards.

 

If Zelensky thinks he can get a "security guarantee" from Trump that commits the US to getting involved in the war, he is demented. Trump gets out of wars, he doesn't get into them.

 

While the Euros are rallying around Zelensky, it's all talk- even with the US support under Biden, Ukraine was losing the war in the east, and if the US stops supplying weapons and munitions, it's unlikely that the Euros can reverse the loss on their own.

The danger now is that they will supply missiles that can attack Moscow, and then it's really into uncharted territory, but it won't end well for Ukraine.

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Posted
3 hours ago, sharot724 said:

Here yee here ye TBL has insite and everybodby listen up

The end of the war 

LOL cant imagine why I missed it 

 

Didn't take long for you to get on the ignore list.

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On 3/3/2025 at 9:53 AM, Hakuna Matata said:

 

 

Well if he did that not very presidential is it... but I expect that's  ok with you because he said it to Trump and Vance

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Posted
7 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Well if he did that not very presidential is it... but I expect that's  ok with you because he said it to Trump and Vance

 

wait, wasn't one of the arguments of the Trumpists that Zelenskyi didn't even speak Ukrainian ?

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56 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

wait, wasn't one of the arguments of the Trumpists that Zelenskyi didn't even speak Ukrainian ?

No idea, not me that's for sure.

 

What you gunna do when the war is over, what's your new profile PIC?.

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