Is the drug exporting country responsible for the high number of users in another country?

[OneMoreFarang]

It seems Trump wants to punish Mexico and China for drug exporters in their country.

To me it seems the problem are all the users in the USA who consume lots of drugs. If nobody would want to consume drugs, then no drugs would be imported.

 

It seems the biggest consequence of fewer imported drugs are higher drug prices. And that brings more crime because more addicts commit more crimes to pay for their drugs.

 

So, what's the point of blaming the exporters?

 

Currently this is a big issue in the USA. But obviously it is not restricted to American.

IMHO if countries want fewer drug users, then they should motivate those users not to take drugs. That is the only real long-term solution.

 

What do you think?

[hotsun]

If he wanted to pull a Duterte and allow Americans to kill drug dealers i would support that. Or even better maybe dont allow the criminals from south america to pour into the country. Your post is just to blame Americans, not helpful in the slightest

[Yagoda]

38 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Your post is just to blame Americans, not helpful in the slightest

Welcome. Its de rigeuer for the non Americans (usually Euros)  here to just hystericaly screech and spittle spew hate about America and Americans. Its gotten worse since they started to realize the free ride is coming to an end.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

If he wanted to pull a Duterte and allow Americans to kill drug dealers i would support that. Or even better maybe dont allow the criminals from south america to pour into the country. Your post is just to blame Americans, not helpful in the slightest

 

Did you read this part of my post?

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Currently this is a big issue in the USA. But obviously it is not restricted to American.

 

 

And why should anybody blame Mexicans and Canadians and Chinese people for the fact that many million US citizens use illegal drugs? Americans want to take those drugs; nobody is putting a gun to their head and forces them to take drugs.

 

But that's my questions, see above.

If anybody here thinks Americans wouldn't want any drugs if nobody would import them, then please explain why.

Maybe you have some interesting thoughts which I didn't consider.

 

 

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

I find it curious that President Musk made sure that, while Mexico and Canada got a 25% tariff, China only got hit with a 10% tariff. And, mark my words, any business that supports MAGA will receive tariff exemptions. Crony capitalism at its worst.

[bendejo]

In a certain state of the US everyone with knowledge of drugs knows that meth was the domain of the biker orgs.  At least back in the 1970s it was.  No foreign influence in that enterprise.

 

[frank83628]

1st They defend illegal immigration, then they defended warmongers

Now they are defending drug Importers

 

All because Trump, 

[novacova]

On 2/3/2025 at 9:17 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Is the drug exporting country responsible for the high number of users in another country?

Are drug dealers responsible for selling poisonous drugs?

Are banks responsible for being robbed because they have cash on hand?

Why is it that those on the left are always rationalizing and justifying criminal behavior?

[impulse]

On 2/3/2025 at 12:21 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

I find it curious that President Musk made sure that, while Mexico and Canada got a 25% tariff, China only got hit with a 10% tariff. And, mark my words, any business that supports MAGA will receive tariff exemptions. Crony capitalism at its worst.

 

You forgot the word "additional".  China goods are already heavily tariffed and have been.

 

https://hts.usitc.gov/reststop/file?release=currentRelease&filename=China Tariffs

 

There's over 250 pages of HTS codes of stuff from China that's already hit with tariffs, many enacted in 2018 and 2019.  Who was president back then?

 

If the link doesn't work, go to hts.usitc.gov    But I warn you it's pretty boring stuff.

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Are drug dealers responsible for selling poisonous drugs?

Are banks responsible for being robbed because they have cash on hand?

Why is it that those on the left are always rationalizing and justifying criminal behavior?

Because its Trump, they will go the opposite of what ever he says or does and not see their hypocrisy 

[OneMoreFarang]

Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately I don't really understand what some of you mean.

 

Who is responsible for high drug usage? The users or the manufacturers and exporters of those drugs?

As far as I am concerned nobody would produce and export the drugs if nobody would want to buy them.

[novacova]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who is responsible for high drug usage? The users or the manufacturers and exporters of those drugs?

As far as I am concerned nobody would produce and export the drugs if nobody would want to buy them.

Well clearly you don’t understand how the world operates and human curiosity. Addiction usually starts at an early age, children experiment out of curiosity and peer pressure, if the supply is available then some are apt to experiment then it becomes a lifestyle. Your OP is just another worthless hack in attempt to correlate your disappointment of Trumps success of Drug Tariffs as a failure and blaming the children for experimenting with drugs supplied by the criminal drug cartel terrorist of whom you are mitigating. It appears from this vantage point that you are in support of these criminals and making rationalizations for them, it’s a pretty sick position to be in.

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately I don't really understand what some of you mean.

 

Who is responsible for high drug usage? The users or the manufacturers and exporters of those drugs?

As far as I am concerned nobody would produce and export the drugs if nobody would want to buy them.

Supply and demand.

People don't take drugs just because they are produced.

Recreational drugs in general have become more popular since the early 90's rave scene because the whole 'drugs are bad' is tired, worn out old propaganda that nobody listens to anymore.

Cocaine used to be expensive and limited to certatin demographic , now its much cheaper and it's practically everywhere.

Ecstasy is taken world wide, weed, well if Thailand decriminalised it that says something

The 'war on drugs' is an old outdated US idea and unwinnable.