USAID - Dems in full delusional mode as usual

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Yes, a very unorthodox, and unconstitutional was of doing it. 

 

But it's not unconstitutional.  The president has emergency powers that allow it.  Within 45 days, he has to report to Congress what he's done and why.  Then they can override his EOs.  Or not.

 

[rwilem]

Wow... 

Was lefty-oriented major player news outlet Politico funded by USAID? Asking for a friend.

 

Which other media outlets you suppose the agency's funds might have ended up at? 

 

 

 

[Hawaiian]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

But it's not unconstitutional.  The president has emergency powers that allow it.  Within 45 days, he has to report to Congress what he's done and why.  Then they can override his EOs.  Or not.

 

Since USAID was established by Congress Trump cannot arbitrary abolish it.  What other things he legally can and cannot do regarding the agency, I don't know. We may have to see where courts go with this.

[John Drake]

All this talk about USAID and how it helps versus China in developing countries, all this talk needs to get back to what appears to be an uncomfortable fact: what has USAID money done to help the US in these nations? Where we unload millions and billions, the countries turn around and vote against us or our allies in the UN, they denounce us publicly, complain about American culture, and even object to our nationality, claiming we're not Americans but United Statesian. Take our money and deny our nationhood. Time to cut them all off.

[John Drake]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

There is something quite concerning about unelected, unvetted and unknown people acting without transparency.

 

That is precisely what USAID has been doing since the Vietnam War.

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, rwilem said:

Wow... 

Was lefty-oriented major player news outlet Politico funded by USAID? Asking for a friend.

 

Which other media outlets you suppose the agency's funds might have ended up at? 

 

 

 

So Politicos Natasha Bertrand infamous 51 intel experts election interference disinformation was STATE FUNDED after all? Clearly we need more supermaxes to punish everyone involved in this move to end US democracy.

 

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Since USAID was established by Congress Trump cannot arbitrary abolish it.  What other things he legally can and cannot do regarding the agency, I don't know. We may have to see where courts go with this.

 

Transfer and disburse the employees to new offices in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, and Barstow. Close down and sell the current buildings in DC. Or turn them into apartments for Haitians and Venezuelans with asylum status.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Since USAID was established by Congress Trump cannot arbitrary abolish it.  What other things he legally can and cannot do regarding the agency, I don't know. We may have to see where courts go with this.

 

I'm not sensing they want to abolish it.  It reminds me of Bush Jr when he reshuffled quite a few agencies after 9/11.  It was a huge shake-up, but they were all agencies under the Executive Branch... 

 

Of course, W had a few advantages: 

1) He was a uniparty insider, and a legacy at that. 

2) He wasn't named Trump and

3) Americans were scare mongered into thinking there was a terrorist behind every tree and anyone who didn't get in line was a "threat to Americans" (Sound familiar?)

 

Looks like USAID will just report to the Sec of State for some oversight, and won't be spending money willy nilly.

I'm sure it will be fought out in courts at several levels and taxpayers will be hit with $billions in legal fees as one agency sues another (x 10).  But I suspect that smarter MAGAs than me have mapped all that out.  Trump learned from his last term.

 

[impulse]

3 hours ago, rwilem said:

Wow... 

Was lefty-oriented major player news outlet Politico funded by USAID? Asking for a friend.

 

Which other media outlets you suppose the agency's funds might have ended up at? 

 

It's fixing to get good...

 

[Hawaiian]

34 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm not sensing they want to abolish it.  It reminds me of Bush Jr when he reshuffled quite a few agencies after 9/11.  It was a huge shake-up, but they were all agencies under the Executive Branch... 

 

Of course, W had a few advantages: 

1) He was a uniparty insider, and a legacy at that. 

2) He wasn't named Trump and

3) Americans were scare mongered into thinking there was a terrorist behind every tree and anyone who didn't get in line was a "threat to Americans" (Sound familiar?)

 

Looks like USAID will just report to the Sec of State for some oversight, and won't be spending money willy nilly.

I'm sure it will be fought out in courts at several levels and taxpayers will be hit with $billions in legal fees as one agency sues another (x 10).  But I suspect that smarter MAGAs than me have mapped all that out.  Trump learned from his last term.

 

What you say is true.  Trump, this time around, will listen more closely to his advisers.  He commented during his first term that he didn't need to be briefed.  He soon found out there was valuable information he knew nothing about.  I am not a MAGA person per se, but feel he is the one to fix some of our most pressing problems, like illegal immigration, a demoralized military and wasteful spending.  History will judge his successes and failures.

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, rwilem said:

Which other media outlets you suppose the agency's funds might have ended up at? 

BBC

 

 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, illisdean said:

BBC

 

 

 

 

Alex Jones on X as a source....really???....Stop it...you're killing me.

[theblether]

USAID may survive but it will be a shell entity. No way it will return to business as usual. 

[Hawaiian]

4 minutes ago, theblether said:

USAID may survive but it will be a shell entity. No way it will return to business as usual. 

Especially when the whole story of how aid money was frittered away on useless projects is exposed to the entire world to see.

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, rwilem said:

Wow... 

Was lefty-oriented major player news outlet Politico funded by USAID? Asking for a friend.

 

Which other media outlets you suppose the agency's funds might have ended up at? 

 

 

 

 

In August 2024, @amuse gained attention for posting AI-generated images depicting Taylor Swift endorsing former President Donald Trump. These images were widely shared, including by Trump himself, leading to discussions about the use of AI in political contexts.

 

If that is your source you need to get a grip.

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Especially when the whole story of how aid money was frittered away on useless projects is

exposed to the entire world to see.

 

I think the more damaging reports will be the tax money that was spent to interfere with the US elections and support future Blue voters swarming across the border.

 

The rest of the world will care more about the US tax money spent to interfere with elections in their country.  And I don't blame them.

 

[illisdean]

6 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Especially when the whole story of how aid money was frittered away on useless projects is exposed to the entire world to see.

 

[illisdean]

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Especially when the whole story of how aid money was frittered away on useless projects is exposed to the entire world to see.

 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, illisdean said:

 

 

Interesting to see that Trump maintained this policy throughout his term in office......oh wait.....he was too busy fighting impeachments and prosecutions to do anything.....correct?

[riclag]

7 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Both Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the dangerous debt load of the federal government.  Now that one party is attempting to slow it down the other party is doing everything in their power to stop it.

One well respected financial fund manager thinks it's about time. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/us-heading-towards-economic-heart-attack-debt-cut-soon

Hopefully the savings will take a big effect on the cost of entitlements!

Dad( Trump) as my wife refers to him 

says theres no need to touch Social Security benefits.

Where’s Paul Ryan , who was the speaker of the house  during Trumps 45th ? He and others wanted to axe up entitlements . Now we have DOGE and other methods to help it survive.

imop

[Will B Good]

Just now, riclag said:

Dad (Trump) as my wife refers to him 

 

OMG

[riclag]

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

That is precisely what USAID has been doing since the Vietnam War.

Well said

[riclag]

38 minutes ago, illisdean said:

 

Now that was a shocking video!

Remember when Mayorkas was impeached and the Dem controlled 

Senate refused to hold a legitimate trial ! The evidence would of destroyed 

the Dem Party.

[riclag]

58 minutes ago, theblether said:

USAID may survive but it will be a shell entity. No way it will return to business as usual. 

Spot on!My guess is , It will be like Melania’s underwear draw , highly scrutinized .

[John Drake]

Overseas staff given 30 days to get out. How many, I wonder, are packing their bags at the Bangkok embassy?

 

Quote

On Friday, February 7, 2025, at 11:59 pm (EST) all USAID direct hire personnel will be placed on administrative leave globally, with the exception of designated personnel responsible for mission-critical functions, core leadership and specially designated programs. Essential personnel expected to continue working will be informed by Agency leadership by Thursday, February 6, at 3:00pm (EST).

For USAID personnel currently posted outside the United States, the Agency, in coordination with missions and the Department of State, is currently preparing a plan, in accordance with all applicable requirements and laws, under which the Agency would arrange and pay for return travel to the United States within 30 days and provide for the termination of PSC and ISC contracts that are not determined to be essential. The Agency will consider case-by-case exceptions and return travel extensions based on personal or family hardship, mobility or safety concerns, or other reasons. For example, the Agency will consider exceptions based on the timing of dependents’ school term, personal or familial medical needs, pregnancy, and other reasons. Further guidance on how to request an exception will be forthcoming.

Thank you for your service.

 

https://www.usaid.gov/

[rwilem]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Since USAID was established by Congress Trump cannot arbitrary abolish it. 

Actually, USAID was established by President Kennedy under an executive order in 1961. 

[rwilem]

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Especially when the whole story of how aid money was frittered away on useless projects is exposed to the entire world to see.

The worse parts of the entire enterprise are:

 

1) Funding the NGOs (most of them intel cutouts) and others that financed, and are continuing to finance, regime change ops overseas. USAID through its layers of financed NGOs is a full-service regime change agency. (And some of that activity is taking place on domestic soil as well.)

 

2) The funding for a ton of NGOs and orgs that paid for and have facilitated the the 'massive migration'  to the U.S.

Yep, it's been paid for by U.S. taxpayer. 

 

3) The multi $million$ distributed on the low-down to the politicos (mostly Dems, but Rinos have gotten some, too), former office holders and 'connected' individuals and orgs, media outlets, and on and on and on. Kickbacks, let's call 'em what they are. How do members of Congress become uber-wealthy, in many cases obscenely wealthy, on their relatively modest salaries? Kickbacks, stock trading based on their inside info, bribes, payoffs and more. Dirty, dirty dirty...why do you think they and their resistance media lackeys are squealing, screaming, so loudly now? Their gravy-train NGO kickbacks are coming to an end. One pillar of deep-state corruption is being dismantled in real time. 

 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Alex Jones on X as a source....really???....Stop it...you're killing me.

More truthful than most MSM outlets

[uncletiger]

5 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Since USAID was established by Congress Trump cannot arbitrary abolish it.  What other things he legally can and cannot do regarding the agency, I don't know. We may have to see where courts go with this.

I wish people would quit posting misinformation like this:

 

The Secretary of State established USAID as directed by Executive Order 10973, signed on November 3, 1961.

 

It was NOT established by Congress, and Trump can absolutely cancel that EO.

 

Trump can't cancel the Foreign Assistance Act, which was established by Congress. But he absolutely can change the terms that were delegated.

[rwilem]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

Gratifying to see that someone has posted this. Hoping it whets the appetite for people to learn more. Mike Benz is among the leading authorities when is comes to dissecting USAID, its operations and exposing it for what it is.

 

Any Benz interview is worth viewing, especially the one with Joe Rogan about two months ago in early December. Go over to his X account, too. He's got a ton of valuable info.