Trump & Netanyahu Press Conference: U.S. will "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

So to be entitled to live there, they had to have ruled?  Got it.

 

As to migrating - homo sapiens have been migrating ever since we emerged as a distinct species.

 

You dont have a logical argument here.  At all.  Just a prejudiced, and warped,  point of view, along the lines of Orwell's "Four legs good, two legs better"

 

PH

 

   I was replying to the claim that "Israel was established on Palestinian land" and I was pointing out that it never was Palestinian land in the first place 

[zaZa9]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  OK, thank you for providing a link so now I know what you are referring to .

  Your link states that the hospital wasn't even hit , the bombs landed in the hospital courtyard and the target was a Hamas command center which Israel claims was being operated from the target .

   Hamas targeted innocent civilians 

Israel targeted Hamas.

That is the difference 

 Wow , all that special  'targetting' and precision bombing ...   so careful and precise it resulted in what    Donny  today calls  TOTAL DESTRUCTION ... hmmm .... So Israel failed at 'precision'  ... And   still   you declare that Hamas needs to be wiped out ? So Hamas still exists , therefore the  Israeli assault  on Hamas  was another  FAILURE  .  We know the truth , the only 'win'  was what Israel calls   ' accidental ' ,  it was making  Gaza  uninhabitable . THAT  was entirely unintentional of course , we believe you  ,  but Trump and Netanyahu will run with it . We wont mention  all that  the oil off the coast  ...

[NanLaew]

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I truly believe that Israel wants to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is public sentiment. 

 

I truly believe that Iran wants to wipe the Jews off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is a lack of capability. 

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

 Wow , all that special  'targetting' and precision bombing ...  

 

   Just to stick with the topic in question, Israel claims that that bomb did indeed hit a Hamas command center which was located in the hospital courtyard 

[tony2times]

32 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I truly believe that Iran wants to wipe the Jews off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is a lack of capability. 

I'm with Iran

[tony2times]

59 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I was replying to the claim that "Israel was established on Palestinian land" and I was pointing out that it never was Palestinian land in the first place 

Yes it was do your Research, they welcomed the Jews who were fleeing persecution in Europe into their Homes,fed and Sheltered them and in Return they stole the Palestinians Homes and Murdered them

[Hanaguma]

19 minutes ago, tony2times said:

Yes it was do your Research, they welcomed the Jews who were fleeing persecution in Europe into their Homes,fed and Sheltered them and in Return they stole the Palestinians Homes and Murdered them

That's kinda tough to prove, since Jews have lived there since 3000 years BEFORE Islam was even founded. 

[Walker88]

Elect a clown, expect a circus.

[tony2times]

15 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That's kinda tough to prove, since Jews have lived there since 3000 years BEFORE Islam was even founded. 

Many Races have lived there for over 3000 years,before Jews were invented, Egyptians,Greeks,Romans,Phoenicians if we are looking at ownership of land based on who was there first then Jews were not the first race of People there.

It is a dangerous and ignorant argument to make,i'm assuming you're from the USA if that is the case the Native American Indians have every right to Ethnically Cleanse You and Steal your Home

[Walker88]

30 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That's kinda tough to prove, since Jews have lived there since 3000 years BEFORE Islam was even founded. 

That's an argument that sounds good, but it's really pretty meaningless.

 

The DNA of Ashkenazi Jews is a bit different from anyone who practiced Judaism 3000 years ago in the Middle East. That's as silly as people who think Jesus was Caucasian and portray him that way. Is it just common faith that affords rights of settlement for all time?

 

The people who are now Palestinians can likely trace their roots back 3000+ years in that area, too, though they probably went through various different superstitions along the way, with the majority now being Muslim and a large minority Christian.

 

Races have been mixing for thousands of years, so what is the exact gene pool of the "legitimate" settlers on any land?

 

I have no solution, as I suspect there is none, but neither do I think migrants from New York have a right to take the land of West Bank Palestinians, though not-so-hidden behind Gaza has been a lot of bad stuff in the non-Hamas West Bank.

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, tony2times said:

Many Races have lived there for over 3000 years,before Jews were invented, Egyptians,Greeks,Romans,Phoenicians if we are looking at ownership of land based on who was there first then Jews were not the first race of People there.

It is a dangerous and ignorant argument to make,i'm assuming you're from the USA if that is the case the Native American Indians have every right to Ethnically Cleanse You and Steal your Home

And you would be assuming wrong, my friend.  As for the Natives in the US, they were eagerly butchering and enslaving each other for centuries before the first European set foot on the continent. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, tony2times said:

Yes it was do your Research, they welcomed the Jews who were fleeing persecution in Europe into their Homes,fed and Sheltered them and in Return they stole the Palestinians Homes and Murdered them

 

   Really ?

"The riots took the form, for the most part, of attacks by Arabs on Jews accompanied by destruction of Jewish property. During the week of riots, from 23 to 29 August, 133 Jews were killed by Arabs, and 339 Jews were injured, most of whom were unarmed."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots

[tony2times]

28 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That's kinda tough to prove, since Jews have lived there since 3000 years BEFORE Islam was even founded. 

What has Islam got to do with it?? Are you even aware that there is a Large Christian Population in Palestine???

They have been there since the time of Jesus Christ,it is the Holy Land.

Secondly it should tell you all you need to know that when the Jews were persecuted in Europe it was the Palestinians who gave the Food and Shelter in return they were Murdered and had their houses stolen by the same Jews they helped.

these are facts

[tony2times]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

And you would be assuming wrong, my friend.  As for the Natives in the US, they were eagerly butchering and enslaving each other for centuries before the first European set foot on the continent. 

Canadian then? The Natives can do what they want on their own Land, without the Europeans descending upon them and committing Genocide wouldn't you agree?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, tony2times said:

What has Islam got to do with it?? Are you even aware that there is a Large Christian Population in Palestine???

They have been there since the time of Jesus Christ,it is the Holy Land.

Secondly it should tell you all you need to know that when the Jews were persecuted in Europe it was the Palestinians who gave the Food and Shelter in return they were Murdered and had their houses stolen by the same Jews they helped.

these are facts

 

  My post above shows that they are not facts 

[tony2times]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  My post above shows that they are not facts 

You took one soundbite from the Collective Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinian People and are trying to show that as proof???

The FACTS are that the Jews Murdered and Stole the Palestinians Land and Homes Committing Massacres against Unarmed Villagers

Just google "Tantura" You will see the Jews gloat about the Massacres themselves and that is just ONE Example of the Heinous crimes they Committed

[dinsdale]

I think it's just another piece of Trump being Trump. I remember the flood of negative comments when Trump talked about taking over the Panama Canal due to Chinese interference and low and behold the Panamanian President announces that Panama is going to pull out the Belt and Road Initiative. It is also worth noting that Trump has not committed to US boots on the ground in Gaza and that this is not a permanent relocation. Let's face it if October 7 did not happen there would be no need for the demolition site of Gaza needing to be rebuilt. Also keep in mind that the devastation of Gaza is due to Hamas using the people of Gaza as human shields and that the billions of foreign funding was used by Hamas, a terrorist organization, to build an extensive tunnel system purely for the reason of raising jihad and not used to develop Gaza for the benefit of the Palestinians. This proposition by Trump is about rebuilding Gaza with the assistance of neighbouring Middle East countries NOT making Gaza a US territory. 

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, tony2times said:

You took one soundbite from the Collective Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinian People and are trying to show that as proof???

The FACTS are that the Jews Murdered and Stole the Palestinians Land and Homes Committing Massacres against Unarmed Villagers

Just google "Tantura" You will see the Jews gloat about the Massacres themselves and that is just ONE Example of the Heinous crimes they Committed

 

   There are plenty of other examples of Jews being attacked on the land prior to 1948

[save the frogs]

Holy crap, Trump gets sh*t done.

 

He's not sitting around playing golf, is he? 

 

[tony2times]

47 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I think it's just another piece of Trump being Trump. I remember the flood of negative comments when Trump talked about taking over the Panama Canal due to Chinese interference and low and behold the Panamanian President announces that Panama is going to pull out the Belt and Road Initiative. It is also worth noting that Trump has not committed to US boots on the ground in Gaza and that this is not a permanent relocation. Let's face it if October 7 did not happen there would be no need for the demolition site of Gaza needing to be rebuilt. Also keep in mind that the devastation of Gaza is due to Hamas using the people of Gaza as human shields and that the billions of foreign funding was used by Hamas, a terrorist organization, to build an extensive tunnel system purely for the reason of raising jihad and not used to develop Gaza for the benefit of the Palestinians. This proposition by Trump is about rebuilding Gaza with the assistance of neighbouring Middle East countries NOT making Gaza a US territory. 

Yes but this time He's being directed by the Real President of USA Nethanyahu

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, tony2times said:

Yes but this time He's being directed by the Real President of USA Nethanyahu

A comment truly worthy of the intellect displayed by the liberal left on this forum. Keep up the good work.

[merck]

17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There we have it, unquestionably ethnic cleansing, and nobody forced you to admit it.

 

 

Sorry, was that the ...from the river to the sea... chant you were referring to?

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[Tug]

18 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump could build more casinos that way.

lol we remember how that went last time even with daddy’s bailout lol wasn’t he floating some nonsense like this with little Kim during his first disaster oops I mean administration?

[Cryingdick]

Okay let it be the way it is. In another year or so they all starve to death anyway. Than you can do whatever you want. You have to purge Hamas 100%. No aid of any kind should be allowed unless there is a full unconditional surrender or they are all dead. A beach paradise full of hotels or a strip full of death torture and inbreds that behead people and light babies on fire. That's the choice.

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, tony2times said:

You took one soundbite from the Collective Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinian People and are trying to show that as proof???

The FACTS are that the Jews Murdered and Stole the Palestinians Land and Homes Committing Massacres against Unarmed Villagers

Just google "Tantura" You will see the Jews gloat about the Massacres themselves and that is just ONE Example of the Heinous crimes they Committed

 

No mention of Zionist gloating in the Tantura wiki.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, merck said:

Sorry, was that the ...from the river to the sea... chant you were referring to?

Well it’s certainly added new meaning to the chant.

 

While a chant from people with no power causes such outrage amongst people who are quiet when the most powerful man on the plant openly proposes ethnic cleansing.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, tony2times said:

Yes but this time He's being directed by the Real President of USA Nethanyahu

Well I would agree the tail is wagging the dog.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Okay let it be the way it is. In another year or so they all starve to death anyway. Than you can do whatever you want. You have to purge Hamas 100%. No aid of any kind should be allowed unless there is a full unconditional surrender or they are all dead. A beach paradise full of hotels or a strip full of death torture and inbreds that behead people and light babies on fire. That's the choice.

Ah, collective punishment.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

The Saudis have just called out another Trump lie:

 

Saudi Arabia has reaffirmed its stance that it will not normalise relations with Israel without the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, rejecting a claim by US President Donald Trump that Riyadh had dropped the demand.

 

The Saudi Foreign Ministry issued a statement emphasising that the kingdom's position remains "firm and unwavering" following Trump's remarks during a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House.

 

Asked if the Saudis demand the establishment of a Palestinian state, Trump, sitting alongside Netanyahu in the Oval Office, replied: "No, they’re not."

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/live-blog-trumps-gaza-proposal-a-recipe-for-instability-arab-league-18261576