Trump’s Bold Proposal to End Gaza’s Cycle of Suffering

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t beg any questions.

 

This is a thread discussing a single topic.

 

Your attempt at whataboutary is noted.

I am genuinely curios as to why everyone takes such an interest in the Palestinians cause and has no interest about any other groups in similar situations 

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, candide said:

They don't want them in tneir country. They want them in Palestine.

 

The Arab Peace Initiative (Arabic: مبادرة السلام العربية; Hebrew: יוזמת השלום הערבית), also known as the Saudi Initiative (Arabic: مبادرة السعودية; Hebrew: היוזמה הסעודית), is a 10 sentence proposal for an end to the Arab–Israeli conflict that was endorsed by the Arab League in 2002 at the Beirut Summit and re-endorsed at the 2007 and at the 2017 Arab League summits.[1] The initiative offers normalisation of relations by the Arab world with Israel, in return for a full withdrawal by Israel from the occupied territories (including the West Bank, Gaza, the Golan Heights, and Lebanon), with the possibility of comparable and mutual agreed minor swaps of the land between Israel and Palestine, a "just settlement" of the Palestinian refugee problem based on UN Resolution 194, and the establishment of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

The Arab Peace Initiative included Iran as a signatory. The head of the snake. Besides which even though Israel were discussing talks Hamas then took over Gaza, all they wanted to do was strive for power and violence.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I am genuinely curios as to why everyone takes such an interest in the Palestinians cause and has no interest about any other groups in similar situations 

Maybe because it’s the subject of the thread.

 

Just a thought.

[Chomper Higgot]

Meanwhile in Washington, Trump’s Gaza real estate dreams aren’t winning much support:

 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5129173-trump-gaza-proposal-reaction/amp/

[candide]

7 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Comical answer proving you know nothing about Arab culture. 

 

If Arabs truly wanted that it would have happened already. 

I posted facts (whatever one may think about this initiative). You are posting vague allegations.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The two most prominent nations opposing the two state solution are Israel and Iran.

 

Edit: Text highlighted for clarity.

 

 

This topic is not about a two state solution by the way, have you actually read it? 

[Briggsy]

 Two state solution is the answer but Israel are currently not interested.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

28 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

 Two state solution is the answer but Israel are currently not interested.

And Hamas are ? 

[Briggsy]

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

And Hamas are ? 

Two state solution is the answer.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

10 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Two state solution is the answer.

You’ve already said that and that Israel are not interested in it.

 

 I asked you if Hamas are interested in it ?

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

 Two state solution is the answer but Israel are currently not interested.

 

You are saying that a two state solution is the answer, but that Israel are not interested, so obviously blaming Israel with your statement; but when asked if Hamas are interested in a two state solution, you have no answer.

 

Might it be that you don’t want to answer because you know that the eradication of all jews, not just in Israel, but throughout the world, is in the founding charter of Hamas, so a two state solution is the last thing in the world they would want.

 

 

[CG1 Blue]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How about asking the Palestinians what they think about foreigners deciding their fate and the fate of their homelands?

 

 

And yet further down here you said the following: 

 

"Yes the restructuring needs to start with recognition of the Palestinian State.

That’s the internationally accepted solution."

 

So do you think the Palestinians should accept what foreigners want, or shouldn't? 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

And yet further down here you said the following: 

 

"Yes the restructuring needs to start with recognition of the Palestinian State.

That’s the internationally accepted solution."

 

So do you think the Palestinians should accept what foreigners want, or shouldn't? 

Are you pretending not to understand Palestinians right to self determination within their own State? 

[candide]

39 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

You are saying that a two state solution is the answer, but that Israel are not interested, so obviously blaming Israel with your statement; but when asked if Hamas are interested in a two state solution, you have no answer.

 

Might it be that you don’t want to answer because you know that the eradication of all jews, not just in Israel, but throughout the world, is in the founding charter of Hamas, so a two state solution is the last thing in the world they would want.

 

 

Hamas may not be, but the PA (Fatah) is.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Are you pretending not to understand Palestinians right to self determination within their own State? 

I am sure he does, however most Palestinians do not want a two state solution

 

New poll reveals most Palestinians don’t want two-state solution — support for two states plunging especially in Gaza

Despite an aggressive push by U.S. President Joe Biden and other world leaders for Israel to accept the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state when the October 7th war ends, it is clear that most Palestinians do not support a two-state solution anymore.

Only 32% of Palestinians support a two-state solution at this point, according to a new poll conducted by Dr. Khalil Shikaki, director of the well-respected Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) based in Ramallah, the effective capital of the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

Today, fully 65% of Palestinians oppose a two-state solution, the new survey revealed.

https://allarab.news/new-poll-reveals-most-palestinians-dont-want-two-state-solution-support-for-two-states-plunging-especially-in-gaza/

 

Dim Outlook for Peace in the Middle East
Hopes for resolution, two-state solution equally low in Israel, West Bank and East Jerusalem

In the West Bank and East Jerusalem, enthusiasm for the two-state solution is equally as low among respondents as it is in Israel. Slightly over a quarter (28%) support it, compared with 64% who do not. This is largely unchanged compared with 2023, just before the Oct. 7 attacks and subsequent escalation.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/650636/dim-outlook-peace-middle-east.aspx

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Are you pretending not to understand Palestinians right to self determination within their own State? 

 

   They do not have a right to that privilege 

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Are you pretending not to understand Palestinians right to self determination within their own State? 

And yet you say they should accept an 'Internationally accepted' solution rather than decide themselves? 

Make your mind up