Credit to Donald Trump, LGBT’ is over. Someone Tell the BBC

[RocketDog]

On 2/8/2025 at 6:17 AM, Luuk Chaai said:

more like just stay in your lane..   no need for the world to bend over backwards or genuflect at the whim of anybody that does not fit the standard definition .. do your thing..  and shut your trap,  nobody really cares what you wear or what your choice of lifestyle  is 

the "alphabet" squad is not owed or entiteld to anything special  ..    

 

Totally agree. We should all get excited and have lengthy and deeply emotional discussions about a string of alphabetic charcters and which is correct.

 

I'm all in! For about 5 microseconds.

 

You'll have to carry on without me though as I am engrossed in this thing called a 'life' and can't spare the time for such semantic nonsense.

[Cryingdick]

Why give credit to trump? The entire world has become sick of the hysterical games. 

[frank83628]

On 2/8/2025 at 4:41 AM, scorecard said:

 

What amuses me is that no matter what title / acronym people use the fact is that gay people exist and in much bigger numbers than most realize, world wide. 

 

Trump and his gang seem to be hoping they can rid the USA of homosexual people in the military, in government and in daily life. They just show their ignorance.

 

Also in the 'mix' is that folks like trump, and all in his party, just don't know who might be gay in their family, their company, amongst their friends, this generation, previous generations or next generation, whether out or not out, and probably in their ignorance have never thought about it.  

 

Changing the acronym back to a previous version is also showing their ignorance. 

You have totally missed the point if you think its about getting rid of gay poeple

[riclag]

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

You have totally missed the point if you think its about getting rid of gay poeple

Grinell & Bessent & the chick from

Fox Tammy Bruce

[carlyai]

I'm old but had to fill in a form the other day. The usually stuff, Name, Address etc. Then Male, Female, etc, then a box 'Identify as Something Else' and 'What do you identify as'.

Us taxpayers payed a group of people to have meetings and come up with this line of text on a form.

If the movement would have stopped at Male, Female, Gay, Lesbian, I supported that but to keep going, now identifying as something else went tooooo far and of course there was going to be a backlash.

Don't particularly like Donald Trump but he's got some good ideas.

[frank83628]

On 2/8/2025 at 8:36 AM, WDSmart said:

The acronym is not "LGBT." It's "LGBTQIA+" 
LGBTQIA+ Meaning of Each Letter & Acronym Breakdown | SFGMC

And that's why it became a laughing stock.

[frank83628]

On 2/8/2025 at 9:01 AM, WDSmart said:

What Trump and his sycophants are trying to do is move us backward to when even LGs were treated as outcasts, and denying the existence of any such thing as BTQIA+s... 

No, just back to reality. Before the woke gender nonsense. You are just making wild hysterical conspiracy's from a derangement level of warp factor 6

[WDSmart]

45 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No, just back to reality. Before the woke gender nonsense. You are just making wild hysterical conspiracy's from a derangement level of warp factor 6

No, I am "woke." And, yes, that is equivalent to moving forward at a "warp factor 6" when Trump and his supporters are still trudging along on impulse power, and worse than that, they are going backward.

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

You have totally missed the point if you think its about getting rid of gay poeple

In a way I agree. It's not about getting rid of LGBT people (although there are a number of pond dwellers on here who would like to), it's about slowly removing their hard fought rights. Vile Christian nationalism is on the rise and they want revenge. 

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, carlyai said:

I'm old but had to fill in a form the other day. The usually stuff, Name, Address etc. Then Male, Female, etc, then a box 'Identify as Something Else' and 'What do you identify as'.

Us taxpayers payed a group of people to have meetings and come up with this line of text on a form.

If the movement would have stopped at Male, Female, Gay, Lesbian, I supported that but to keep going, now identifying as something else went tooooo far and of course there was going to be a backlash.

Don't particularly like Donald Trump but he's got some good ideas.

Tick the box "male". Is that so hard? 

[frank83628]

50 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

In a way I agree. It's not about getting rid of LGBT people (although there are a number of pond dwellers on here who would like to), it's about slowly removing their hard fought rights. Vile Christian nationalism is on the rise and they want revenge. 

Trump has never mentioned anything of the sort, That's your conspiratorial brain working overtime again.

[Baht Simpson]

54 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Trump has never mentioned anything of the sort, That's your conspiratorial brain working overtime again.

It's already started. Let's see what that nice Mr. Trump says about it. 

 

"On Monday, the Idaho House of Representatives asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the landmark 2015 case that legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. If the Supreme Court takes up the challenge and rules in favor of the Idaho House, it could mean the end of gay marriage in the United States."

 

Source: USA Today

[baansgr]

Two sexes, male and female. Men can't have babies, woman can...what is so hard to understand..and as for the sports thing and toilet thing that is just warped thinking from a few gays that need educating

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

No, I am "woke." And, yes, that is equivalent to moving forward at a "warp factor 6" when Trump and his supporters are still trudging along on impulse power, and worse than that, they are going backward.

You must be the only 'woke' person here, I wouldnt call men in womens toilets moving forwards.

 

[spot]

10 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

 

Sigmund Freud has entered the chat.

Sigmund Freud would probably find a forum, based in Thailand, full of hatred for Trans people very interesting. As someone has pointed out, there's more to the hatred than plain, good ol days bigotry.

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, baansgr said:

..and as for the sports thing and toilet thing that is just warped thinking from a few gays that need educating

This isn't a straight or gay thing and the average gay will not need educating on transgender issues. Transgender can be straight or gay. In my experience the huge majority of gay men are more than happy to remain as men.

[Baht Simpson]

Freud was accepting of homosexuality, although his reasons for it are rather outmoded. I think he probably would have a different view on being able to just change these days.

 

 

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

You must be the only 'woke' person here, I wouldnt call men in womens toilets moving forwards.

 

I am sure I am not the only "woke" person on AseanNow Forums. I've exchanged messages with many of them.

Allowing men in women's toilets is not the issue here, at least from my "woke" point of view. The issue here is that some, like you, probably, are so closed-minded that you believe there are only two distinct genders and that everyone has to be classified as one or the other. This classification is made primarily on the type of genitals the person is born with, which, as we all (I assume) know are sometimes abnormal. Another determining factor are hormones, which, as with genitals, can be abnormal, which may not become evident until puberty. Also, the abnormality in these two factors, genitals and hormones, can occur together or separately.

Long story short, although the vast majority of us do have the physical and hormonal characteristics that we associate with either a male or female, some of us don't. That percentage is hard to pin down, but it appears to be about 1%.

So, for me, a "woke" individual, the problem isn't how to keep men out of women's toilets or sports leagues; it's creating a rule or method to determine which one of the two accepted genders a person is that can be applied to everyone, not just the 99%.
 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I am sure I am not the only "woke" person on AseanNow Forums. I've exchanged messages with many of them.

Allowing men in women's toilets is not the issue here, at least from my "woke" point of view. The issue here is that some, like you, probably, are so closed-minded that you believe there are only two distinct genders and that everyone has to be classified as one or the other. This classification is made primarily on the type of genitals the person is born with, which, as we all (I assume) know are sometimes abnormal. Another determining factor are hormones, which, as with genitals, can be abnormal, which may not become evident until puberty. Also, the abnormality in these two factors, genitals and hormones, can occur together or separately.

Long story short, although the vast majority of us do have the physical and hormonal characteristics that we associate with either a male or female, some of us don't. That percentage is hard to pin down, but it appears to be about 1%.

So, for me, a "woke" individual, the problem isn't how to keep men out of women's toilets or sports leagues; it's creating a rule or method to determine which one of the two accepted genders a person is that can be applied to everyone, not just the 99%.
 

Correction, its an abnormality Ns .00001  of the world population

[Yellowtail]

20 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Trump seems to have a strange Village People fetish. 
Often those deep in the closet “object” the most.

Trump was groomed from a young age by his father’s lawyer who died of HIV AIDS.

He wears makeup, uses hair spray and a lot of fake tan.

All a bit too much of a coincidence for me.

 

 

Everyone on the right knows he's gay and does not care. It's only the intolerant. hate-filled left that cares. 

[Yellowtail]

15 hours ago, spot said:

The 'report' is another heavily biased opinion piece from the Telegraph, designed to appeal to the right audience—you know, the ones who still wish pitchforks were a thing (back in the good old days etc).

 

No one was ever asking for special treatment, just to be treated with some dignity, not marginalised, victimised and to have some of the same rights as other citizens.

So what, why does that bother people? They're different: so what?

 

A few years ago, no one cared about trans people.

 

It's been the rise of popularism, led by right wing bigots, and supported by enough dumb people that's put trans people in the firing line, and made the T in LGBT a thing.

 

Approximately 0.6 of the US population identifies as trans. Real threat, eh?

 

The amount of time and effort put into this is stupid and disproportionate. But who needs sense when stupid means we can have fun being hateful.

 

Men asking to be allowed to shower with girls, and to compete in girls' sports seems like asking for special treatment to me. 

 

I think the girls the left wants to compel to shower and compete with men are being marginalized and deserve to be treated with dignity. You don't agree, I know. 

 

The left does not care at all about real girls and real women. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

15 hours ago, spot said:

It was a bridge too far because it was made a bridge too far to win elections. Before the subject was paraded around speeches and rallies, one one really cared.

 

Who made it a thing?

 

The US wasn't divided by one side - it takes both, surely? 

 

 

It was mostly mothers and fathers that care about their daughters that made it a "thing". 

 

Joe Biden liked to shower with his daughter, so he thought it would be great to change Title IX such that men are able to shower with anyone's daughters. Most parents do not agree. 

 

Please keep fighting for men in girls' showers and sports. Take to the streets and do some damage, I'm sure you can turn this around in the midterms. 

[Baht Simpson]

10 hours ago, RocketDog said:

 

I'm all in! For about 5 microseconds.

 

No one's interested in your sex life. 🙂

[JonnyF]

4 hours ago, WDSmart said:

So, for me, a "woke" individual, the problem isn't how to keep men out of women's toilets or sports leagues; it's creating a rule or method to determine which one of the two accepted genders a person is that can be applied to everyone, not just the 99%

 

Good luck with that.

 

Nobody else is interested. There are 2 genders. Blokes use the mens toilets and women use the lady's. 

 

We don't need screaming hysterical exhibitionist men in makeup and high heels  demanding to use the women's bathroom alongside our wives and daughters.

 

You guys had a decent run but it's over. 

[spot]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Men asking to be allowed to shower with girls, and to compete in girls' sports seems like asking for special treatment to me. 

 

I think the girls the left wants to compel to shower and compete with men are being marginalized and deserve to be treated with dignity. You don't agree, I know. 

 

The left does not care at all about real girls and real women. 

 

 

When you say 'the left' you mean what I said is coming from an ideology? 

 

It's not. 

 

 

 

[spot]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It was mostly mothers and fathers that care about their daughters that made it a "thing". 

 

Joe Biden liked to shower with his daughter, so he thought it would be great to change Title IX such that men are able to shower with anyone's daughters. Most parents do not agree. 

 

Please keep fighting for men in girls' showers and sports. Take to the streets and do some damage, I'm sure you can turn this around in the midterms. 

No. It was people like you who made it a thing. Basic bigotry triggered by cleverly orchestrated denigrating of anyone that interferes with your supremacy.

 

You used Biden as some sort of misinformational stick to emphasise your lack of empathy and, again, your supremacy. I couldn't care less about Biden, or his son. This is about the current bunch.

 

The anti trans thing has won the day in the US.

 

Well done tough guys.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

28 minutes ago, spot said:

The anti trans thing has won the day in the US.

Well done tough guys.

 

  Trans guys can no longer beat woman in sport

Like they cannot punch and hit woman in women's boxing matches or win against woman in women swimming competitions

Men who beat woman are not the "tough guys .

Compete against men if you want to win