Rising Anti-Israel Sentiments in Pai Following Tourists Misconduct

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, LetsGoJoe said:

I recall seeing "no Israeli" signs in a few restaurants on Koh Tao like 20+yrs ago...couldn't imagine what inspired that sentiment .....😁

 

   Could be that they would group up and fight back against the local mafia families ?

  Rather than being picked off one by one ?

[Aussie999]

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Now I know why we don't have brain surgeons in Australia,your evident of that ,not the smartest people the Aussies 

Mate, so instead of debating, on an intelligent level, you resort to insults.. ok, I accept you might not have the intelligence to debate, I wish you a good life.

[Jim Blue]

On 2/10/2025 at 4:49 AM, Aussie999 said:

A few Israelis cause a disturbance and we see this article, signs banning Israelis, Israelis deported, but not the same action against Russians, Indians, Poms, Aussies and many other nationalities... I guess too many, and too much money lost, and maybe Israelis refuse to pay the corruption payments.

 

On 2/10/2025 at 7:12 AM, koolkarl said:

The airheads have been brainwashed by the media, in particular, Al Jazeera.  This is exactly what Hamas wants in its strategy.  So a couple of Israelis caused minor trouble .

Well if you describe wrecking a hospital and threatening staff " minor trouble " you must be living somewhere else .....

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

 

Well if you describe wrecking a hospital and threatening staff " minor trouble " you must be living somewhere else .....

Can you refer to that topic wrecking a hospital?

[koolkarl]

3 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

 

Well if you describe wrecking a hospital and threatening staff " minor trouble " you must be living somewhere else .....

IDF wouldn't enter a hospital because they have nothing else to do. Intelligence told them Hamas terrorists hiding there, along with schools and other civilian places.  Most wear civilian clothes too and they don't care about their own people, just use them as shields.

[zaZa9]

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That isn't true .

Israel had received info that a terror attack against Israelis was planned and Full moon party was the possible location . It wasn't based on the cleric in the U.A.E

   You do seem to take a lot of interest in Israel , 

Yes , I call out BS anywhere I see it and Netanyahus government keeps me busy !  Just look at the BS you repeat. "Israel had received info that a terror attack AGAINST ISRAELIS was planned  and a full moon party was the possible location. 

For starters , Phuket does NOT  have Full Moon Parties !  So BS  full on there.

And how did these fictional terrorists plan to single out the Israelis ? Ask each raver their nationality ? LOL

And , btw ,  is this  the Israel  that was incapable of predicting its own attack and is still open for tourism while  constantly under at war  ? 

In short , what  evidence was there for any of that BS 'warning'..oh I know   its a 'secret'. Theres never any evidence.  These Much Ado warnings are put out to keep the world thinking , "poor Israel and its sufferring ..." while it constantly ignores international law and theives land.

ALSO ,  may I ask whats the meaning of your last sentence ?? 

It sounds like something a Nazi informer would say ...am I to read it as  a feeble attempt  to intimidate ?  5555

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

Yes , I call out BS anywhere I see it and Netanyahus government keeps me busy !  Just look at the BS you repeat. "Israel had received info that a terror attack AGAINST ISRAELIS was planned  and a full moon party was the possible location. 

For starters , Phuket does NOT  have Full Moon Parties !  So BS  full on there.

 

 

 

   You did say "Thailand, including Phuket"

And I was referring to the warnings about the Full moon party on KPG as I remember those , I don't recall any warnings about Phuket 

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

 

ALSO ,  may I ask whats the meaning of your last sentence ?? 

It sounds like something a Nazi informer would say ...am I to read it as  a feeble attempt  to intimidate ?  5555

 

   Another Anti Israeli who just cant help making a reference to Nazis .

Another one whose interests include Israel and Nazis .

Someone who is extremely critical of Israeli and has and interest in Nazis 

[Centigrade32]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Another Anti Israeli who just cant help making a reference to Nazis .

Another one whose interests include Israel and Nazis .

Someone who is extremely critical of Israeli and has and interest in Nazis 

 

This seems like nonsense and speculation to me. Can we have an adult discussion without your continued name calling antics?

[Centigrade32]

54 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

IDF wouldn't enter a hospital because they have nothing else to do. Intelligence told them Hamas terrorists hiding there, along with schools and other civilian places.  Most wear civilian clothes too and they don't care about their own people, just use them as shields.

 

They don't care about their own people, but they are willing to die on behalf of them. Let's stop all of this one side is good and one side is bad nonsense.

[Nick Carter icp]

58 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

IDF wouldn't enter a hospital because they have nothing else to do. Intelligence told them Hamas terrorists hiding there, along with schools and other civilian places.  Most wear civilian clothes too and they don't care about their own people, just use them as shields.

 

   Israel also takes notice if where rockets from Gaza are fired from and Israel returns the fire to  the Hamas rocket launchers .

   The Israeli rockets fired at the Hamas rocket launch locations aren't going to stop and turn back just because the Hamas rocket was launched for a Gaza school 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

Yes , I call out BS anywhere I see it and Netanyahus government keeps me busy !  Just look at the BS you repeat. "Israel had received info that a terror attack AGAINST ISRAELIS was planned  and a full moon party was the possible location. 

For starters , Phuket does NOT  have Full Moon Parties !  So BS  full on there.

And how did these fictional terrorists plan to single out the Israelis ? Ask each raver their nationality ? LOL

And , btw ,  is this  the Israel  that was incapable of predicting its own attack and is still open for tourism while  constantly under at war  ? 

In short , what  evidence was there for any of that BS 'warning'..oh I know   its a 'secret'. Theres never any evidence.  These Much Ado warnings are put out to keep the world thinking , "poor Israel and its sufferring ..." while it constantly ignores international law and theives land.

ALSO ,  may I ask whats the meaning of your last sentence ?? 

It sounds like something a Nazi informer would say ...am I to read it as  a feeble attempt  to intimidate ?  5555

 

   You made eleven different points in that post .

Eleven different bullet points .

I really dont have the time or inclination to reply to every bullet point you made .

   Not only that, not ONE of your bullet points was even on topic 

[Aussie999]

7 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

 

Well if you describe wrecking a hospital and threatening staff " minor trouble " you must be living somewhere else .....

Do you know something, not in the story... I cannot find anything close to saying they "wrecked a hospital" or "threatening staff," does say "causing disturbances," and that's all. So, please, if you have more info, tell us.

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, tony2times said:

It's been Palestine since the Ancient Greeks and Alexander the Great Conquered it,even before jews were invented

Incorrect.

[save the frogs]

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[Evil Penevil]

27 minutes ago, tony2times said:

It's been Palestine since the Ancient Greeks and Alexander the Great Conquered it,even before jews were invented

 "After Roman times the name [Palestine] had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain."    https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine

 

 There had never been an independent kingdom, nation or state called Palestine before the PLO declared the creation of the State of Palestine in 1988.  Arabs living in Mandatory Palestine had been offered a state under the 1947 U.N. partition plan, but the Arab League rejected the plan.

What Israel took over on  May 14, 1948, was the territory allotted to the Jewish state under the United Nation's partition plan for Mandatory Palestine, which at that time was under British control.   Before the U.K. received the Mandate for Palestine from the League of Nations, the Ottoman Empire had ruled the region we today call historical Palestine since 1516 CE.  Prior to the  Turks, the rulers had been the Mamluk Sultanate; Ayyubid Dynasty; European Crusaders; Fatimid Caliphate; Mongol Empire;  Abbasid Caliphate; Umayyad Caliphate;  Rashidun Caliphate; Byzantine Empire; Roman Empire; Seleucid Empire; Ptolemaic Kingdom; Achaemenid (Persian) Empire; Babylonian Empire and Assyrian Empire.

You have to go back to Biblical times and the Iron Age to find centuries in which people who were actually born in historical Palestine ruled  the region.  That would be the Kingdoms of  Israel  and Judah.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  .  

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 "After Roman times the name [Palestine] had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain." https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine

https://x.com/BryanLeibFL/status/1712594390445617178

 

 There had never been an independent kingdom, nation or state called Palestine before the PLO declared the creation of the State of Palestine in 1988.  Arabs living in Mandatory Palestine had been offered a state under the 1947 U.N. partition plan, but the Arab League rejected the plan.

What Israel took over on  May 14, 1948, was the territory allotted to the Jewish state under the United Nation's partition plan for Mandatory Palestine, which at that time was under British control.   Before the U.K. received the Mandate for Palestine from the League of Nations, the Ottoman Empire had ruled the region we today call historical Palestine since 1516 CE.  Prior to the  Turks, the rulers had been the Mamluk Sultanate; Ayyubid Dynasty; European Crusaders; Fatimid Caliphate; Mongol Empire;  Abbasid Caliphate; Umayyad Caliphate;  Rashidun Caliphate; Byzantine Empire; Roman Empire; Seleucid Empire; Ptolemaic Kingdom; Achaemenid (Persian) Empire; Babylonian Empire and Assyrian Empire.

You have to go back to Biblical times and the Iron Age to find centuries in which people who were actually born in historical Palestine ruled  the region.  That would be the Kingdoms of  Israel  and Judah.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  .  

 

Yep. No nation called Palestine. 

 

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, tony2times said:

Correct...Depends who you ask, a Jew will obviously say different since "God" apparently "Promised" that land to them 😂 what a justification for Murder and Thievery

Check out the archeology.

Zionism originated as a political ideology.

The promised thing is used as an antisemitic trope.

I get it you that obviously get excited to demonize Jews and suggest they're a monolith.

[Mitkof Island]

On 2/10/2025 at 3:31 AM, hotsun said:

Are israeli toruists really any worse than the russian ones in phuket? Maybe crazy western politics is making its way here too

Toss who I consider the biggest PESTS of Thailand but I have to say Israeli . Over two decades here and everytime I encounter them I want to flee they are so fracking obnoxious. I have no issues banning both from Thailand forever. True <deleted>$!

 

[Mitkof Island]

On 2/10/2025 at 3:29 PM, pub2022 said:

 

Have you recently been in Pai?

Have you seen what's going on there?

They lost control of the village.

A huge number of tourists are lining the pockets of hotel and restaurant owners, who are mostly Thais originally from the south, Bangkok or Chiang Mai, who have very little interest in things going back to normal.

Like the toxic air pollution its all about $$$ but what if the PESTS are scaring off many? I have not got near the place in twenty years and I thought it was bad then.

[Mitkof Island]

On 2/10/2025 at 10:36 AM, Atlantic Cod said:

How would you know they were Israeli customers do restaurants and bars in Pai ask for I.D., shades of 1933, or are they killing Palestinian tourists

Just look for foreigners that NEVER smile (besides the Russians) those are all from Israel dead giveaway every time.

[Mitkof Island]

On 2/10/2025 at 7:33 AM, rwill said:

The point is we always seem to judge a group as a whole based on the actions of a few.

A few?

[Evil Penevil]

 

 

17 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

Yes , I call out BS anywhere I see it and Netanyahus government keeps me busy !  Just look at the BS you repeat. "Israel had received info that a terror attack AGAINST ISRAELIS was planned  and a full moon party was the possible location. 

For starters , Phuket does NOT  have Full Moon Parties !  So BS  full on there.and.

It's not BS at all.  The Royal Thai Police warned in November of a possible terrorist attack on Israelis at a full moon party: 

Israeli tourists face terror threat at Koh Pha Ngan Full Moon party  

Royal Thai Police (RTP) issued a spine-tingling warning, revealing that terrorists are targeting Israeli holidaymakers at the infamous Full Moon party on Thailand’s tourist haven, Koh Pha Ngan.

In a bombshell announcement, the RTP disclosed that they’ve received info indicating a sinister plot to attack Israeli tourists at the island celebration.     https://thethaiger.com/news/national/israeli-tourists-face-terror-threat-at-koh-pha-ngan-full-moon-party

 

Local police quickly denied there was a terrorist plot aimed at Israelis.  The warning may have been inaccurate, but it had indeed been made.

 

17 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

And how did these fictional terrorists plan to single out the Israelis ? Ask each raver their nationality ? LOL

 

Many Israeli young people attend full moon paties.  There are hostels, guest houses and restaurants on Koh Pha Ngan popular with Israelis which would make niviting targets for terrorists.  Moreover, terrorists have never been worried about killing others alongside their target group.

 

17 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

And , btw ,  is this  the Israel  that was incapable of predicting its own attack and is still open for tourism while  constantly under at war  ? 

 

The answer is "yes."  The U.S. failed to predict 9/11 and the U.K., France, Russia, Germany and other countries have all failed to anticipate terrorist attacks.   What point are you trying to make?

 

17 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

In short , what  evidence was there for any of that BS 'warning'..oh I know   its a 'secret'. Theres never any evidence.  These Much Ado warnings are put out to keep the world thinking , "poor Israel and its sufferring ..." while it constantly ignores international law and theives land.

 

Intelligence-gathering agencies can't reveal the sources of their information, that's a ridiculous thought.  The best evidence of terrorist attacks is the number of people who have been killed in them.  Since 1920, a total of 5,507 Jews have been killed in terrorist attacks in Mandatory Palestine or the state of Israel.  The number since 1948, the year Israel was founded, is 4,822. 

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/number-of-terrorism-fatalities-in-israel

 And of course it's not just Israel.  Since 1995, about 4,000 U.S. citizens or residents have been killed in terrorist attacks inside and outside the U.S.

[Centigrade32]

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

What Israel took over on  May 14, 1948, was the territory allotted to the Jewish state under the United Nation's partition plan for Mandatory Palestine, which at that time was under British control. 

 

If off-topic is allowed now....

 

https://books.google.co.th/books?id=crPPX99rjYUC&pg=PA5&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

 

Seems pre-1948 to me.

 

A British census of 1918 estimated 700,000 Arabs and 56,000 Jews.^[31]

 

 

 

 

 

[Centigrade32]

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

5,507 Jews have been killed in terrorist attacks in Mandatory Palestine or the state of Israel.  The number since 1948, the year Israel was founded, is 4,822. 

 

Indeed, the Jewish terrorist organisation the Irgun was responsible for killing some of them. Of course they expressed remorse for killing the Jews, but not the British or the Arabs.

If off-topic is allowed, then there should be some balance.

[Centigrade32]

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yep. No nation called Palestine. 

 

 

I guess it depends on which history books you read: https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/History#ref494709

[Evil Penevil]

3 hours ago, Centigrade32 said:

 

I guess it depends on which history books you read: https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/History#ref494709

You are confusing the concept of Palestine as a geographical region with a nation state.  The source you give states (I bolded the text):

"Although the Arabs of Palestine had been creating and developing a Palestinian identity for about 200 years, the idea that Palestinians form a distinct people is relatively recent. The Arabs living in Palestine had never had a separate state. Until the establishment of Israel, the term Palestinian was used by Jews and foreigners to describe the inhabitants of Palestine and had only begun to be used by the Arabs themselves at the turn of the 20th century."

[Centigrade32]

28 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

You are confusing the concept of Palestine as a geographical region with a nation state.  The source you give states (I bolded the text):

"Although the Arabs of Palestine had been creating and developing a Palestinian identity for about 200 years, the idea that Palestinians form a distinct people is relatively recent. The Arabs living in Palestine had never had a separate state. Until the establishment of Israel, the term Palestinian was used by Jews and foreigners to describe the inhabitants of Palestine and had only begun to be used by the Arabs themselves at the turn of the 20th century."

 

I'm not at all confused. I think everyone is agreed that the peoples lived together in the region, until there was a plan to change that, to take over all of the land. This is the crux of the matter. Forcing one set of people out to replace them with another. 

Personally, I don't concern myself with race nor religion, but only the salient facts. The Zionist plan was to seize control of all of the land. That has not ever changed. Ben Gurion stated as much.  They are not the victims, they are the perpetrators trying to portray themselves as victims simply defending themselves. The Palestinians and Arabs are portrayed as evildoers and terrorists. But they lived there....and now they don't. This was forced upon them. It's nothing to do with fairness or goodness. Trying to portray Israelis as the good guys simply doesn't fly for most of the world and any attempt to have a balanced discussion is usually shut down with cries of anti-Semitism or worse.

I'm not going to suggest that I was there and know everything. That's why we should be able to have healthy discussions without name calling and insulting in order to try to shut down any conversation.

 

 

The Brits aren't too keen on the invasion of their country. I guess they are learning how the Palestinians felt/feel.

[Artisi]

On 2/11/2025 at 1:17 AM, NorthernRyland said:

Pai is a tourist cesspit. The local people and culture has been ghettoized into the far corners of the valley. Between the hordes of tourists, rasta Thais from the south and pretentious Bangkok (and urban center)  douches with fancy hotels there's nothing left.

 

It will always be a lovely valley but it's totally spoiled I would say. Anyone who enjoys northern Thai culture should literally go anywhere else.

My first of a number of trips to Pai was about 30 years ago, my latest trip was 3 years ago, couldn't get out quick enough - what was  a lovely, quiet and peaceful place is now the absolute pits, will never return and never recommend anyone to visit.