BBC with a brutal takedown of Ukrainian hopes

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/20/2025 at 5:47 PM, pegman said:

Oh yes, Istanbul. It was all downhill from there. The third successor of Boris, Starmer, seems to want to get the UK directly involved. How about he send 100,000 or so British troops to the front to slow Putin down? Otherwise STFU!!!

While I despise Starmer so no desire to support him, it appears to me he only wants to send them as a peacekeeping ( the most ill used word in the English language ) force after the war stops. Russia will likely put an end to that nonsense.

[MicroB]

On 2/19/2025 at 2:34 PM, theblether said:

 

And away you go again. 

 

RN, my brother served, 25 years service. You are beyond deluded claiming the above to be a true reflection of what happened politically. The Americans wanted a bulwark in Europe, the French were acting up, only the UK was stable enough but highly indebted - and had the added benefit of being a permanent of the security council. Wilson had to bend after being caught out claiming the the British army was suited to jungle warfare while the SAS and RN destroyed the communists in Borneo. 

 

The nukes were rammed down his throat. By the way, my bro-in-law collected his Malaysia campaign medal a couple of years ago. 

 

I cannot take you seriously. Utter stupidity to believe that our nukes are independent in the face of all evidence including your benighted NATO saying that they are not truly independent. And you chose to ignore this pointed retort - why? Too many complicated words for you? 

 

But some other experts are deeply skeptical about the current state of affairs. “As a policy statement, it’s ludicrous to say that the US can effectively donate a nuclear program to the UK but have no influence on how it is used,” says Ted Seay, senior policy consultant at the London-based British American Security Information Council (BASIC), who spent three years as part of the US Mission to NATO.

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You mean Malaya, old man. The Malaya Police Action ended in 1960, making him at least 83 years old.

 

There is nothing to stop the Royal Navy launching Trident independant of the US. The US might file a complaint afterwards, but it will be an afermath where none of us are left, least not anything resembling Washington. So its moot. Letters of Last Resort mean that its not just the Prime Minister who can physically launch. The US doesn't have the same, as only the President has the authority.

[Purdey]

I don't think we can blame the BBC for reporting what was said and summarizing its meaning. 

NATO has fallen out of favor with America recently and if America withdraws from NATO then the EU and UK will have to handle it.

[Purdey]

I don't think we can blame the BBC for reporting what was said and summarizing its meaning. 

NATO has fallen out of favor with America recently and if America withdraws from NATO then the EU and UK will have to handle it.

[Purdey]

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