Zelensky Pushes Back Against Trump’s “Disinformation” on Ukraine War

[Eric Loh]

  On 2/20/2025 at 3:51 AM, KireB said:

Let's see what is left of the US economy once the petro dollar looses its special status. How high is the US national debt again? The interest payments are already more than military spending.

 

The US economy is finished, a financial abyss and cvil war are looming, as you cant keep on inflating your money supply. I give it 5 to 10 years max, before the house of cards (aka the Great American  Ponzi scheme ) collapses. 

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Trump will accelerate the decline with his billionaires, tariff wars and international missteps. America is deemed as untrustworthy by many countries in trade and foreign policies. 

[Centigrade32]

  On 2/20/2025 at 3:55 AM, impulse said:

 

You're trying to confuse the warmongers with facts.  That rarely works.

 

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Do you have any facts?

[Rimmer]

A personal attack has been removed @Yagoda

[Centigrade32]

  On 2/20/2025 at 1:06 AM, Thingamabob said:

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Millions of dollars contributed by foreign countries in support of Ukraines's war effort have disappeared. Over the years Kyev governments have  treated Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine with brutality. These, and other issues, are conveniently played down by most people in the western 

media. Worth bearing this in mind by those aiming to negotiate a cessation of hostilities. 

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That's the Kremlin/RT channel comic book version. Where did you hear it? 

 

The political class know a little more about the truth of the matter, than someone who just sits around watching Kremlin propaganda on YouTube.

The version that wants us to believe that the evil Ukrainians were just randomly attacking little old ladies, as opposed to the FACT that they were fighting with Russian special forces disguised as Russian separatists. 

 

Just out of interest, since you state that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries, due to "millions of dollars disappearing" Who do you think is number one?

How much does DOGE state is unaccounted for in the USA thus far? Do you think it is a figure far in excess of anything that happens in Ukraine?

What about the phony war over WMD that didn't exist? What do you think that was about?

I don't need to put too fine a point on it, lest I'm accused of being off-topic.

 

 

 

 

 

[jvs]

  On 2/20/2025 at 2:46 AM, frank83628 said:

In your head. Not those that voted for him, they're getting exactly what they voted for

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Yes that is for sure and they are starting to regret it already!

[frank83628]

Hold an election, you lot are always preaching about dictators and democracy

[frank83628]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:01 AM, jvs said:

Yes that is for sure and they are starting to regret it already!

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in your head.

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 2:02 AM, Harrisfan said:

Cowards? Says a guy on a computer who never fought in any war. Most Americans are sick of funding wars or Americans dying overseas.

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That's right, attack the messenger in true Trumpian fashion.

 

Most Australians are sick of spending our blood and treasure to support a country that gets into wars, then cuts and runs when the American public changes like a weathercock.

 

You could take lessons from us, ask the East Timorese if we finished the job there.

 

You'll be dying in your own country soon enough.

 

Fact: 70% of you are fat slugs.

 

Fact: Your new health czar is an anti-vaxxing lunatic.

 

Americans now are not the Americans of yesterday. Everybody knows it except you.

[steven100]

  On 2/20/2025 at 4:34 AM, Centigrade32 said:

 

That's the Kremlin/RT channel comic book version. Where did you hear it? 

 

The political class know a little more about the truth of the matter, than someone who just sits around watching Kremlin propaganda on YouTube.

The version that wants us to believe that the evil Ukrainians were just randomly attacking little old ladies, as opposed to the FACT that they were fighting with Russian special forces disguised as Russian separatists. 

 

Just out of interest, since you state that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries, due to "millions of dollars disappearing" Who do you think is number one?

How much does DOGE state is unaccounted for in the USA thus far? Do you think it is a figure far in excess of anything that happens in Ukraine?

What about the phony war over WMD that didn't exist? What do you think that was about?

I don't need to put too fine a point on it, lest I'm accused of being off-topic.

 

 

 

 

 

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for the first time in my life I will have to agree with you ....   you are correct 

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:09 AM, Lacessit said:

That's right, attack the messenger in true Trumpian fashion.

 

Most Australians are sick of spending our blood and treasure to support a country that gets into wars, then cuts and runs when the American public changes like a weathercock.

 

You could take lessons from us, ask the East Timorese if we finished the job there.

 

You'll be dying in your own country soon enough.

 

Fact: 70% of you are fat slugs.

 

Fact: Your new health czar is an anti-vaxxing lunatic.

 

Americans now are not the Americans of yesterday. Everybody knows it except you.

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If you say so from your condo of expertise. Trump should hire you to help Musk. Might change the budget by 50 baht a day.

[frank83628]

  On 2/20/2025 at 4:11 AM, Eric Loh said:

Trump will accelerate the decline with his billionaires, tariff wars and international missteps. America is deemed as untrustworthy by many countries in trade and foreign policies. 

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It was ways before trump, the whole reason for BRICS is the US bullying, lies and untrustworthiness 

[Social Media]

Another of your posts removed @frank83628 for pure trolling. 

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:11 AM, Harrisfan said:

If you say so from your condo of expertise. Trump should hire you to help Musk. Might change the budget by 50 baht a day.

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Why would I want to take a job from Trump?

 

I get thrown under a bus, or dudded like thousands of former contractors. Probably both.

 

You really can't think outside the square of ad hominem posts, can you?

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:20 AM, Lacessit said:

Why would I want to take a job from Trump?

 

I get thrown under a bus, or dudded like thousands of former contractors. Probably both.

 

You really can't think outside the square of ad hominem posts, can you?

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I don't care about leftists online. Just fun to laugh at.

[Trentham]

  On 2/20/2025 at 12:31 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I would love to know what Putin has on Trump. That must be heavy duty kompromat. 

 

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There is a rumour that they have a video of him urinating on a Russian prostitute.

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 2:18 AM, Hakuna Matata said:

 

 

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Food inflation at 10%, bank interest rate 21% = 26% to any borrowers.

 

Ruble down 50%, passenger aircraft fleet 400. Before the invasion, over 700.

 

Export income from oil and gas halved. No functioning pipelines from east to west. Oil exports by small, uninsured tankers.

 

Yeah, the Russian economy is terrific, unless you are an ordinary Russian.

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:31 AM, Lacessit said:

Food inflation at 10%, bank interest rate 21% = 26% to any borrowers.

 

Ruble down 50%, passenger aircraft fleet 400. Before the invasion, over 700.

 

Export income from oil and gas halved. No functioning pipelines from east to west. Oil exports by small, uninsured tankers.

 

Yeah, the Russian economy is terrific, unless you are an ordinary Russian.

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Good news hey?

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:21 AM, Harrisfan said:

I don't care about leftists online. Just fun to laugh at.

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Dear me, the leftist label. Trite and boring.

 

Have you considered putting your responses on life support?

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:38 AM, Lacessit said:

Dear me, the leftist label. Trite and boring.

 

Have you considered putting your responses on life support?

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What label do you prefer? Bored retiree? Condo dwelling Trump hater? You tell me.

[NumbNut]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:28 AM, Trentham said:

There is a rumour that they have a video of him urinating on a Russian prostitute.

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Sure it wasn't the other way around?

[frank83628]

  On 2/20/2025 at 3:37 AM, Presnock said:

Actually, Trump and Co. just watched as Obama let the Russians take Crimea and Trump has never lambasted Obama for just that even though he seems to have an "Obama" hate for which I can't fault him but to repeat Putin progaganda is non-excusable to me.

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What can Obama do? There was a referendum, the majority voted Russia.

You cannot preach democracy areound the globe, only to not accept a result when it doesn't go the way you wanted.

Brexit is a good example of that.

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:35 AM, Harrisfan said:

Good news hey?

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I am predicting Trump will lift the sanctions in any peace deal.

 

Which is stupid, because American exporters of oil and gas are making a motza in Europe presently.

 

But then, kissing Putin's butt seems to be a priority with Trump.

 

Don't you ever wonder why?

 

 

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:44 AM, Lacessit said:

I am predicting Trump will lift the sanctions in any peace deal.

 

Which is stupid, because American exporters of oil and gas are making a motza in Europe presently.

 

But then, kissing Putin's butt seems to be a priority with Trump.

 

Don't you ever wonder why?

 

 

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I wonder why the left are war mongers and want to spend $200bn on a war to boost oil prices?

[Lacessit]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:42 AM, frank83628 said:

What can Obama do? There was a referendum, the majority voted Russia.

You cannot preach democracy areound the globe, only to not accept a result when it doesn't go the way you wanted.

Brexit is a good example of that.

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A referendum supervised by Russian soldiers.

[frank83628]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:47 AM, Lacessit said:

A referendum supervised by Russian soldiers.

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People like yourself don't believe any elections are legit when it comes to those the West have deemed an 'enemy'

 

[frank83628]

  On 2/20/2025 at 5:46 AM, Harrisfan said:

I wonder why the left are war mongers and want to spend $200bn on a war to boost oil prices?

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Z man has demanded 250b from the EU countries... he looked coked up when speaking too.

[theshu25]

  On 2/19/2025 at 11:30 PM, Snackbar said:

Trump is a player

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Player?  More like a absolute fool that he is. Has the brain of a 5 year old and the cunning  of a s...house rat.

[Mavideol]

  On 2/19/2025 at 10:29 PM, MicroB said:

 

He's easily flattered. That;s how he was brought up, surrounded by sychophants telling him the boss's son is doing a great job.

 

I am disappointed in Vance though. He should be more worldly., and I thought, considering his consistant public and private comments in 2016 and 2017, he was putting on some sort of necessary act.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trump-was-called-american-hitler-by-his-running-mate-jd-vance-list-of-criticism-6116500

 

But I fear he was born spineless.

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birds of the feather flock together

[Thingamabob]

  On 2/20/2025 at 4:34 AM, Centigrade32 said:

 

That's the Kremlin/RT channel comic book version. Where did you hear it? 

 

The political class know a little more about the truth of the matter, than someone who just sits around watching Kremlin propaganda on YouTube.

The version that wants us to believe that the evil Ukrainians were just randomly attacking little old ladies, as opposed to the FACT that they were fighting with Russian special forces disguised as Russian separatists. 

 

Just out of interest, since you state that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries, due to "millions of dollars disappearing" Who do you think is number one?

How much does DOGE state is unaccounted for in the USA thus far? Do you think it is a figure far in excess of anything that happens in Ukraine?

What about the phony war over WMD that didn't exist? What do you think that was about?

I don't need to put too fine a point on it, lest I'm accused of being off-topic.

 

 

 

 

 

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Way off topic, but entertaining nonetheless.

[Purdey]

You have to admire Trump's ability to turn adversity into opportunity.

Clear out Gaza and give me the land to make a new Riviera (i.e. hotels and casinos).

Clear out the Ukrainians and give me the rare earth materials and oil.

 

You have to admire his chutzpa.