Trump Joins the Axis. NATO Dead. WW111 Imminent?

[Wrwest]

22 hours ago, KireB said:

If you are blind to historic facts, you must have been one of the children not be left behind. What do they teach in US schools about history?

See my reply to this. Of course, I was just one of the educators from 1970-2011. I understand my relative unimportance in the passage of time. I assure you my coverage of WW II was not as simplistic as the post you to which you refer.

[FritsSikkink]

18 hours ago, johng said:

 

There are no election because hes says no elections..if he wanted elections there would be elections   but he does not want elections.

How would you organize an election in the parts that are occupied by the Russians?

How would you organize an election in the frontline of a war?

[tmd5855]

22 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Nazis were German not every country. Go look at a map.

There were Nazis all over Europe.

Ukraine 14Th Waffen SS Division 'Galicia', now classed as freedom fighter since they fought the Russians.

Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Croatia, French citizens all filled the ranks of Waffen SS Divisions.

Just Google "Waffen SS Divisions foreign volunteers."

[Jim Blue]

23 hours ago, brianburi said:

 

He is bonkers and I cannot believe Americans voted this chump in.

I can see a coup happening in the US,  the Generals must remove him.....

So Putin ends up with all the cards ..seems he read that book called the Art of the Deal by .....

[Poilu]

6 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:

There were Nazis all over Europe.

Ukraine 14Th Waffen SS Division 'Galicia', now classed as freedom fighter since they fought the Russians.

Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Croatia, French citizens all filled the ranks of Waffen SS Divisions.

Just Google "Waffen SS Divisions foreign volunteers."

The Croatian Nazis known as the Ustasa operated even worse concentratian camps than the Germans. The German military commander in Yugoslavia even personally confronted Hitler in Berlin to complain about their atrocities.

[Wrwest]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Eastern front turned the war. 

Good to know Normandy invasion did not do that ...

[Samh]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:27 AM, johng said:

 

His mandated /elected term ended a long time ago,  by his dictate there are  no more elections,  so he is now the unelected "leader".

As was Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill in World War II. I don't recall them being called dictators. Nothing wrong when your back is against the wall in a war against a tyranical dictator to suspend elections.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Good to know Normandy invasion did not do that ...

A year later

[hotsun]

Dont know how a thread with this title can reach 10 pages when leftists side with muslim terrorists. What a dumb forum

[tmd5855]

14 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Good to know Normandy invasion did not do that ...

Check distance covered from Normandy to Berlin.

Check distance covered from Moscow Tram Terminus to Berlin.

Normandy saved western Europe from being occupied by Russia.

 

[ChicagoExpat]

17 hours ago, BE88 said:

 

 

While the European warmongering elite has not yet understood anything because they are too stupid but they realize that their richly paid employment is about to end and they want it to continue at any cost at the cost of sending poor European soldiers to be massacred.

 

It seems to me from the comments that many have not yet realized that NATO has lost the war with Russia and that therefore Trump is only trying to save what is still possible for the US, and yes the reality is hard to bear.

 

NATO isn't at war with Russia, Chimpy.

[Lacessit]

22 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:

Check distance covered from Normandy to Berlin.

Check distance covered from Moscow Tram Terminus to Berlin.

Normandy saved western Europe from being occupied by Russia.

 

Normandy saved the Russians from getting wiped out by the Germans.

 

Hitler and his generals used enormous amounts of manpower and material to build defenses against the Allies.

 

Hitler made the mistake of fighting a war on two fronts. Take the defense of the French coast out of the equation, different story entirely.

[ChicagoExpat]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Normandy saved the Russians from getting wiped out by the Germans.

 

Hitler and his generals used enormous amounts of manpower and material to build defenses against the Allies.

 

Hitler made the mistake of fighting a war on two fronts. Take the defense of the French coast out of the equation, different story entirely.

Add in North Africa, Romania, Sicily, Greece, the North Atlantic war, losing the Battle of Britain, Lend Lease, the fight against Japan, China's role and the Western role in supporting China....

 

While I agree too many Westerners are ignorant of the SU's role in WW2, too many Slavaboos/Magaheads (and all Russians) completely overstate their role, and actively deny that Russia's massive losses were due in large part to 1) individuals are worth nothing 2) the purge of the Red Army officer corps before the war 3) The Molotov pact with Germany 4) Russia's foolish lack of preparation for war.

[NoDisplayName]

20 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Funny to see Trump Republicans now taking the stance that Democrats did in the 1970s. They want a "pure" leader for Ukraine or they'll cut him off. This is exactly the attitude towards the Shah of Iran that created Khoumeini and the Iranian theocracy. 

 

Interesting that you bring the Iran problem into the debate.

 

1953.

 

We regime-changed Iran's democratically-elected leader, installed our puppet, and put Mossad in the embassy basement to train the Shah's secret police.

 

My, how history rhymes.

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Add in North Africa, Romania, Sicily, Greece, the North Atlantic war, losing the Battle of Britain, Lend Lease, the fight against Japan, China's role and the Western role in supporting China....

 

While I agree too many Westerners are ignorant of the SU's role in WW2, too many Slavaboos/Magaheads (and all Russians) completely overstate their role, and actively deny that Russia's massive losses were due in large part to 1) individuals are worth nothing 2) the purge of the Red Army officer corps before the war 3) The Molotov pact with Germany 4) Russia's foolish lack of preparation for war.

Another mistake by Hitler. If he kept the Luftwaffe going after British airfields, instead of switching to bombing cities in retaliation for a token raid on Berlin, history would have been quite different.

 

" Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few".

[LatPhrao]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:34 AM, Denim said:

Trump is just a temporary aberration. If ever there was a president likely to get assassinated its him. I doubt very much if he will complete his second term. He is just rubbing too many people up the wrong way. Even some of those who voted for him are regretting the folly of their decision.

We live in Hope. A heroic American in the Secret Service could do it and we would build statues across America in his honor. Death to traitors.

[spidermike007]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:27 AM, johng said:

 

His mandated /elected term ended a long time ago,  by his dictate there are  no more elections,  so he is now the unelected "leader".

That is a load of misinformation, typically any nation during wartime will not be capable of conducting elections, so if he's unelected that is the fault of the serial killing, genocidal madman Vladimir Putin. 

[johng]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Like the US, they have sent their redundant and obsolete military equipment to Ukraine.

 

You have a link that proves they sent everything to Ukraine?

 

Germany has 340 Leopard tanks. It has sent 14 to Ukraine.

 

In other words, your post is BS.

 

The British Army’s armoured division does not really exist

This week the Telegraph is running a series of exclusive essays by expert commentators looking into Britain’s “hollow” armed forces.

https://archive.ph/QcEcX

 

and

 

Starmer is happy to send British troops into harm’s way but he won’t fund them properly

https://archive.ph/A02HJ#selection-3091.4-3091.94

 

Often enough there is no kit at all. Many of our artillery regiments have no weapons and/or very little ammunition, everything having been sent to Ukraine and only a few replacements obtained. Many regiments and battalions are still using obsolete equipment while they wait for new vehicles that should have been delivered long ago

 

[ChicagoExpat]

2 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Add in North Africa, Romania, Sicily, Greece, the North Atlantic war, losing the Battle of Britain, Lend Lease, the fight against Japan, China's role and the Western role in supporting China....

 

While I agree too many Westerners are ignorant of the SU's role in WW2, too many Slavaboos/Magaheads (and all Russians) completely overstate their role, and actively deny that Russia's massive losses were due in large part to 1) individuals are worth nothing 2) the purge of the Red Army officer corps before the war 3) The Molotov pact with Germany 4) Russia's foolish lack of preparation for war.

Edit:  During the years I lived in Moscow (until 2022) I went to the WW2 museum several times.  In a gigantic museum, there is literally almost no mention (I saw one) that the SU had allies in the fight against the Axis.  One mention.  One.

[ChicagoExpat]

4 hours ago, tmd5855 said:

There were Nazis all over Europe.

Ukraine 14Th Waffen SS Division 'Galicia', now classed as freedom fighter since they fought the Russians.

Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Croatia, French citizens all filled the ranks of Waffen SS Divisions.

Just Google "Waffen SS Divisions foreign volunteers."

There were Russians as well.

[ChicagoExpat]

1 hour ago, LatPhrao said:

We live in Hope. A heroic American in the Secret Service could do it and we would build statues across America in his honor. Death to traitors.

Trump is a disaster but I'm not going to call for the murder of the elected President.  Sorry, but you're the traitor if you call for that.

[ChicagoExpat]

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Interesting that you bring the Iran problem into the debate.

 

1953.

 

We regime-changed Iran's democratically-elected leader, installed our puppet, and put Mossad in the embassy basement to train the Shah's secret police.

 

My, how history rhymes.

Please back up the Mossad allegation.  That's interesting.

[jchfriis]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:27 AM, johng said:

 

His mandated /elected term ended a long time ago,  by his dictate there are  no more elections,  so he is now the unelected "leader".

Are you a Russian bot?

[soalbundy]

On 2/20/2025 at 10:51 AM, Old Croc said:

The US President is expanding his lies and ambitions beyond his moronic followers at home  and is siding with former world adverseries against former allies. He is lying on the world stage and the outcome will be dire for Ukraine and perilous for other European countries in Russias territorial gun sights.  He is cutting historic ties with Europe, Britain and even close neighbors. He is placing personal wealth, power or embarrassment before world order. One man, and a coven of craven, religious nutcases, may destroy the planet. 

 

'I think that's over': Retired general declares death of key U.S. alliance

 

WW III, what a load of rubbish. Be happy we are rid of that country with wide open spaces surrounded  by teeth.

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 hour ago, LatPhrao said:

We live in Hope. A heroic American in the Secret Service could do it and we would build statues across America in his honor. Death to traitors.

Calling for the assassination of the landslide election winner and the primary force to tackle deep state fraud and corruption is really low. Isn't calling for violent death to political opponents an offence legally? Another reminder how crass and dishonest the lefts "nobody is above the law" mantra was.

[Samh]

29 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Edit:  During the years I lived in Moscow (until 2022) I went to the WW2 museum several times.  In a gigantic museum, there is literally almost no mention (I saw one) that the SU had allies in the fight against the Axis.  One mention.  One.

And I bet the dont mention that Britain and the Empire and France were at war with Germany from 1939 and that at the same time that Germany invaded Poland that the SU also invaded Poland. Oh and Finland.

[ChicagoExpat]

4 minutes ago, Samh said:

And I bet the dont mention that Britain and the Empire and France were at war with Germany from 1939 and that at the same time that Germany invaded Poland that the SU also invaded Poland. Oh and Finland.

Shhhhhh, if the Slavaboos and vatniks hear stuff like this their heads explode.  Remember, comrade, Russia has never done anything bad.  Ever.  And Tucker Carlson is a very smart man.

[johng]

32 minutes ago, jchfriis said:

Are you a Russian bot?

 

Of course ! any counter "narrative"  views could only be  Russian bots, Putin propagandists,shil's  stooges and puppets   heaven forbid questioning the excepted "truth"   just isn't the done thing  next you'll be a "conspiracy theorist"   ohh wait too late.

[MicroB]

5 hours ago, Wrwest said:

See my reply to this. Of course, I was just one of the educators from 1970-2011. I understand my relative unimportance in the passage of time. I assure you my coverage of WW II was not as simplistic as the post you to which you refer.

 

 

Educator? I thought you lot were called teachers.

 

Isn't "Educator" a "Woke" term?

[HK MacPhooey]

On 2/20/2025 at 12:27 PM, KireB said:

 

Of course opinion, we are commenting on a forum, not the BBC website. Do you take everything you read here as fact?

Now I understand why you are so uptight and wrong all the time.

You get facts off the BBC website?