File online, taxable pension but no tax due. Any docs needed?

[samtam]

As discussed in a previous thread of a broader nature, I plan to e-file my tax return which shows income from pension and dividends paid offshore, and some of which is used in Thailand only by foreign ATM card, or foreign debit card.

 

Does anyone else do this, and what documents do they file with the online filing?

 

NB. No transactions in the aforementioned occur in any Thailand bank account.

[JackGats]

If I understand right, in the online filing you don't provide supporting documents. You file what you know to be true and keep the supporting document at the ready in case they call you to come and explain.

 

My understanding is also that on the online form you don't mention any amount you know to be tax exempt in Thailand. For example my remittances are exempt as per LTR visa. I didn't mention them on the form. I only mentioned my Thai dividends together with the withholding tax. If they call me to check whether I didn't conceal any remittances, I'll show them my LTR visa and the Royal Decree.

[Yumthai]

You should follow your own statement from the other thread.

 

"The longer I wait to file my (e-file) saved PND90, and with the vague statement from the Finance Minister Pichai on 14 February 2025, I am now coming round to thinking it would be better not to file."

[newbee2022]

14 hours ago, samtam said:

As discussed in a previous thread of a broader nature, I plan to e-file my tax return which shows income from pension and dividends paid offshore, and some of which is used in Thailand only by foreign ATM card, or foreign debit card.

 

Does anyone else do this, and what documents do they file with the online filing?

 

NB. No transactions in the aforementioned occur in any Thailand bank account.

I sent bank statements signed by the bank. Also attached receipt of already paid taxes. The bank statement/credit card shows the Location.

[jwest10]

12 hours ago, Yumthai said:

You should follow your own statement from the other thread.

 

"The longer I wait to file my (e-file) saved PND90, and with the vague statement from the Finance Minister Pichai on 14 February 2025, I am now coming round to thinking it would be better not to file."

Yes, indeed and had a look at the e filing and all in Thai and difficult to follow and in my case have no Tin and  told I want get one from the Revenue.

I have been around my local office and get about the 220K but they stated that as my personal allowances are much higher than my income I do not have to file.
Plus the fact I have a Thai friend who has a partner who works in the office stating the same.
Keep a record on paper and many stating also let them chasing you and do not fet on the system.

Also they asked as I have no employment here or monies from work overseas why do want to file?
They stated no need as above.
 

[federicoP]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I sent bank statements signed by the bank. Also attached receipt of already paid taxes.

How did you send this document?
During the online filing I do not see the possibility to attach documents.

[samtam]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I sent bank statements signed by the bank. Also attached receipt of already paid taxes. The bank statement/credit card shows the Location.

"Bank statements" are presumably bank statements from a ban in Thailand?

"...show the location" of what?

 

[Again, my Thailand bank statements show zero transactions.]

[newbee2022]

26 minutes ago, samtam said:

"Bank statements" are presumably bank statements from a ban in Thailand?

"...show the location" of what?

 

[Again, my Thailand bank statements show zero transactions.]

The location of ATM. And bank statement without transactions? Attach it.

[samtam]

50 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

The location of ATM. And bank statement without transactions? Attach it.

 

Actually, it would be copies of the passbook, (with some ATM payments into an account), which bears no exact relationship to the withdrawal amount from the foreign bank source, as in I draw THB30K from foreign bank and pay THB20K into Thai bank. You think they would find that useful? Or do they expect unreconcilable supporting documents, which they never bother to check? 

 

The passbook shows "teller ID", which seem to be the same branch, so I presume that is the location.

 

These passbook entries do not reflect the debit card entries on the foreign bank, but maybe again the inability to reconcile the amount on the PND.90 and the supporting documents is (bizarrely) not required.

[newbee2022]

22 minutes ago, samtam said:

 

Actually, it would be copies of the passbook, (with some ATM payments into an account), which bears no exact relationship to the withdrawal amount from the foreign bank source, as in I draw THB30K from foreign bank and pay THB20K into Thai bank. You think they would find that useful? Or do they expect unreconcilable supporting documents, which they never bother to check? 

 

The passbook shows "teller ID", which seem to be the same branch, so I presume that is the location.

 

These passbook entries do not reflect the debit card entries on the foreign bank, but maybe again the inability to reconcile the amount on the PND.90 and the supporting documents is (bizarrely) not required.

Documents, which are not signed/ stamped by the bank will (probably) not be accepted (in my case). Copies definitely not accepted.

[samtam]

16 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Documents, which are not signed/ stamped by the bank will (probably) not be accepted (in my case). Copies definitely not accepted.

Yes, weird. As long as its signed, relevance doesn't matter.

[Surasak]

A hypothetical question, just asking for a friend you understand? 

A foreign 'cash' card loaded from a foreign bank, can exchange foreign cash to THB within the app. As a VISA card it can be used to purchase goods and/or services, within Thailand. This means cash is not transferred to a Thai bank via the usual banking methods.

As such, do these transactions require to be reported to the TRD, as in most cases it would keep the card holder within the TRD allowances?