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5 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

No surprise.... What ha sthe Government done so far??? Even the promised 10k wallet is being postponed time after time, a PM who doesn't attend the meetings, and a non elected man who is ruling the country...In the meantime everything goes down and down...

I don't normally go off topic, but I thought you were talking about the US

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6 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

I don't normally go off topic, but I thought you were talking about the US

Strange considering the US is the last real democracy on the planet

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

First of all this is not a democratically elected government and Thailand is not a democracy. Secondarily this Administration has done absolutely nothing for the people and all they're doing is representing the interests of the army, the autocrats, and the billionaires. The young pm has always been completely out of her element, and her level of ineffectiveness is only match by the Goomba overseas. 

Actually it is a legally elected government.

 

PPP which had more elected MPs, was given the first choice of electing a majority coalition government. Unfortunately together with their partners they still could not form a majority government. After a period of time (30 days I think) the option to form a coalition government went to the party with the next highest number of elected MPs, (as laid down in the current and previous constitutions). In this case it was the PTP who could, and did form a majority coalition government.

 

In Thailand, and in many other countries it is not necessarily the first past the post party which forms the government, nor is it, as in the USA that the electoral college decides who is the winner.

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53 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Actually it is a legally elected government.

 

PPP which had more elected MPs, was given the first choice of electing a majority coalition government. Unfortunately together with their partners they still could not form a majority government. After a period of time (30 days I think) the option to form a coalition government went to the party with the next highest number of elected MPs, (as laid down in the current and previous constitutions). In this case it was the PTP who could, and did form a majority coalition government.

 

In Thailand, and in many other countries it is not necessarily the first past the post party which forms the government, nor is it, as in the USA that the electoral college decides who is the winner.

Move Farward was the winner of the elections, but as they were a threat for the current leaders and army they were made impossible to make a coalition. You forgot that Pita was unable to be PM? All kind of tricks were used to prevent that he would be PM  and nd the managed to ban him . PHeu Thai was the first party that saw their chance and formed a formed a government with their friends to keep the power, so not an elected Government  in fact but a Government that was formed to keep the people in power who already were there. Everybody wrote enough about it.. The same parties in another Government. But with the return of Thaksin it seems that there would be changes,,, but untill now they are only working to get Yingluck back and nothing is achieved yet, as we all know  that it is the same as in the last decade. This is not the US nor a democracy.. 

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54 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Move Farward was the winner of the elections, but as they were a threat for the current leaders and army they were made impossible to make a coalition. You forgot that Pita was unable to be PM? All kind of tricks were used to prevent that he would be PM  and nd the managed to ban him . PHeu Thai was the first party that saw their chance and formed a formed a government with their friends to keep the power, so not an elected Government  in fact but a Government that was formed to keep the people in power who already were there. Everybody wrote enough about it.. The same parties in another Government. But with the return of Thaksin it seems that there would be changes,,, but untill now they are only working to get Yingluck back and nothing is achieved yet, as we all know  that it is the same as in the last decade. This is not the US nor a democracy.. 

How would you know whether or not I forgot Pita? Was he standing for election? If you have read and understood the constitution, you would know that the PP were given the option of forming the government.

That they could not and the reason behind it are nothing to do with the legality or not of the current government. As they could not form a workable government, the party with the next highest elected was given the option, in line with the constitution and the law. If that party could not form a government, then the next party in line would have been given the option. I am not sure how many times that can happen before a new election would have to be called.

 

Strangely enough I had noticed that Thailand is not the USA.

 

However I was responding to another poster @spidermike007 who may not be aware of the rules.

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2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Actually it is a legally elected government.

 

PPP which had more elected MPs, was given the first choice of electing a majority coalition government. Unfortunately together with their partners they still could not form a majority government. After a period of time (30 days I think) the option to form a coalition government went to the party with the next highest number of elected MPs, (as laid down in the current and previous constitutions). In this case it was the PTP who could, and did form a majority coalition government.

 

In Thailand, and in many other countries it is not necessarily the first past the post party which forms the government, nor is it, as in the USA that the electoral college decides who is the winner.

I don't believe that is correct, Move Forward won more votes and seats, however Pita was disqualified due to the fabrication of the share issue. He is the leader that the people wanted. And he is the one that would have been most capable of leading Thailand in a forward direction. 

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4 hours ago, billd766 said:

Actually it is a legally elected government.

 

PPP which had more elected MPs, was given the first choice of electing a majority coalition government. Unfortunately together with their partners they still could not form a majority government. After a period of time (30 days I think) the option to form a coalition government went to the party with the next highest number of elected MPs, (as laid down in the current and previous constitutions). In this case it was the PTP who could, and did form a majority coalition government.

 

In Thailand, and in many other countries it is not necessarily the first past the post party which forms the government, nor is it, as in the USA that the electoral college decides who is the winner.

What a load of BS

2023 election

The party won 36.23 percent of the vote in the 2023 general election, gaining 151 seats and becoming the largest party in the House of Representatives, which caused a major electoral upset.Following this success, MFP and seven other parties announced the formation of a coalition aiming to form a government with Pita as prime minister. While the coalition controlled a majority in the lower house, this was not enough to secure the premiership as under the military-drafted constitution, the prime minister is elected by both the elected lower house and the military-appointed senate,and Pita lost his bid to become prime minister on 13 July 2023 after failing to secure enough votes in Parliament. He received 324 votes, 51 votes short of the 375 vote threshold. He also received 182 votes against him with 199 abstentions. In the Senate, where he faced the most opposition, he received 13 votes Shortly after this, several protests were held in Bangkok in support of Move Forward and Pita, with smaller protests taking place in Phuket.

On 19 July, Pita was suspended from being an MP by the Constitutional Court of Thailand over his shares in the defunct broadcaster ITV he inherited from his father Pongsak Limjaroenrat. While this did not disqualify him from becoming prime minister, Parliament decided on the same day that parliamentary regulations did not allow re-nomination of a failed candidate. Move Forward had previously stated that should it become clear it will not win, the party would instead allow coalition partner Pheu Thai Party, who won the second most votes in the 2023 election, to nominate their own candidate, most likely Paetongtarn Shinawatra or Srettha Thavisin. After holding talks with other parties, who expressed unwillingness to support any coalition including Move Forward, Pheu Thai announced that it would break up the eight-party coalition and instead attempt to form a coalition that excludes Move Forward.

 

Pheu Thai Party  was Not elected by the Majority of Thai people

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Move_Forward_Party

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2 hours ago, billd766 said:

How would you know whether or not I forgot Pita? Was he standing for election? If you have read and understood the constitution, you would know that the PP were given the option of forming the government.

That they could not and the reason behind it are nothing to do with the legality or not of the current government. As they could not form a workable government, the party with the next highest elected was given the option, in line with the constitution and the law. If that party could not form a government, then the next party in line would have been given the option. I am not sure how many times that can happen before a new election would have to be called.

 

Strangely enough I had noticed that Thailand is not the USA.

 

However I was responding to another poster @spidermike007 who may not be aware of the rules.

It was not that Pita could not form a Government .. He had no opportunity to form one as the old guard were holding back on him,.. It was impossible to do as he was/is not accepted.. In a normal democracy the biggest parties would join hands and form a Government, but here the refused even to try to make one... and as excuse section 112...In the Netherlands nobody wants to make a Government with the PVV ( a right winged party).. for the same reasons....Look what in a mess they are now too...Same here in Thailand. As soona s MFP won there were suddenly all kind of cases against Pita and the Senators even refused to vote.. Is That democracy and than as excuse he could not form a Government// No of course not if all parties already say we don't want to rule with you you are doomed.

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