Has Thailand Long Surpassed the West in Terms of Quality of Life?

[SMIAI]

12 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

Who didn't?

 

Perhaps you failed to understand anything at all.

Let's go back. You told an anecdote about a particular hospital that charges foreigners 500 baht. My advice was to avoid that particular hospital if you cannot afford the 500 baht.

Is that too difficult for you? It seems that you are just searching for a way to complain about something.

Pattaya City Hospital is not the only choice in town. You aren't forced to go there. But if it's the closest to where you live, then you can choose to pay 500 baht for the convenience or simply go further afield. Not everyone lives on Soi Bua Khao.

It's not a Thailand thing. It's you. @BritManToo pays 50 baht. I don't remember paying any premium when I chose to visit a government hospital and I rarely go anywhere early in the morning. So the oft spoken untruth about having to go early in the morning and to wait all day, has not ever applied to any of my visits. Good service and not expensive.

Some people are prone to making problems for themselves.

[baansgr]

17 hours ago, Cardano said:

You wouldn't even be here.......you even said it yourself that because you previously earned £9k per month it enabled your lifestyle here.

You need to read my post carefully...maybe then you will understand 

[FruitPudding]

I think so.

 

- Socialism is ruining the West. Extreme cost of living crisis,  ironically. 

 

- High crime and getting worse. Dangerous for women and kids, especially. 

 

-Many unpleasant people in public

 

- Crippled national healthcare systems and other public services.

 

- Filthy streets

 

- Dumb politicians. No freedom of speech. Open borders. Islamification.

 

- Development has stopped. It's just regressing, despite high taxes.

 

- Woke <deleted> everywhere.

 

- Too cold half of the year

 

- The women are mostly unattractive and unfeminine. They also have very bad attitudes. No sense of fun, unless it involves getting wasted on booze.

 

 

Did I miss anything?

[FruitPudding]

The only negatives I can think of for Thailand are:

 

- It's a bit too hot for a few months of the year. 

 

- The roads are really dangerous.

 

- Poor air quality half of the year 

 

- The women are mostly not suitable for marriage or motherhood.

 

- A lot of people are dishonest and untrustworthy.

 

- Thailand is losing its charm and character with gentrification.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, wavodavo said:

Regarding Private Hospitals and Emergency Departments in Australia I Don't know how many do have them but the Mater Hospital in Townsville does have one but is probably not much use because it's hours are 7am until 10 pm. It would be fair to say that most people go to emergency after these hours when the Drs.surgeries are closed.

I am guessing most private hospitals in Australia don't have ED's because they are not profitable. Costs of staff in Thailand are lower.

 

I really can't think of a single private hospital in Victoria that has an ED.

[Cardano]

16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

But there isn't always a direct correlation to "more wealth = more contentment".

Some people are contented with way less.

Westerners can get obsessed with being rich and getting rich and make themselves miserable in the process. 

 

My opinion is the reason those who are content with way less is because they never had way more, those that did are not content but just putting on a brave face.
The trait of being obsessed with being rich definitely applies to Thais as well, if not even more so. Many Thais are obsessed with the "face" issue and will get in to heavy debt just to try and portray their wealth.

[Cardano]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

I think so.

 

- Socialism is ruining the West. Extreme cost of living crisis,  ironically. 

 

- High crime and getting worse. Dangerous for women and kids, especially. 

 

-Many unpleasant people in public

 

- Crippled national healthcare systems and other public services.

 

- Filthy streets

 

- Dumb politicians. No freedom of speech. Open borders. Islamification.

 

- Development has stopped. It's just regressing, despite high taxes.

 

- Woke <deleted> everywhere.

 

- Too cold half of the year

 

- The women are mostly unattractive and unfeminine. They also have very bad attitudes. No sense of fun, unless it involves getting wasted on booze.

 

 

Did I miss anything?

"The women are mostly unattractive and unfeminine. They also have very bad attitudes. No sense of fun, unless it involves getting wasted on booze".
Admit it you are obviously referencing the ones you have pulled, because the attractive. feminine, intelligent and adventurous ones wouldn't give you the time of day.

[Cardano]

2 hours ago, baansgr said:

You need to read my post carefully...maybe then you will understand 

I did and still don't understand so Instead why don't you explain it to us all

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, SMIAI said:

 

Perhaps you failed to understand anything at all.

Let's go back. You told an anecdote about a particular hospital that charges foreigners 500 baht. My advice was to avoid that particular hospital if you cannot afford the 500 baht.

Is that too difficult for you? It seems that you are just searching for a way to complain about something.

Pattaya City Hospital is not the only choice in town. You aren't forced to go there. But if it's the closest to where you live, then you can choose to pay 500 baht for the convenience or simply go further afield. Not everyone lives on Soi Bua Khao.

It's not a Thailand thing. It's you. @BritManToo pays 50 baht. I don't remember paying any premium when I chose to visit a government hospital and I rarely go anywhere early in the morning. So the oft spoken untruth about having to go early in the morning and to wait all day, has not ever applied to any of my visits. Good service and not expensive.

Some people are prone to making problems for themselves.

It was a farang outside the hospital who told me what happened to him, did I not say that? Are hospitals not like banks and immigration offices who just make up their own rules?

This is Thailand.

[FruitPudding]

2 hours ago, Cardano said:

"The women are mostly unattractive and unfeminine. They also have very bad attitudes. No sense of fun, unless it involves getting wasted on booze".

Admit it you are obviously referencing the ones you have pulled, because the attractive. feminine, intelligent and adventurous ones wouldn't give you the time of day.

 

Nah, my country has way way higher overweight and obese people than Thailand. 

 

And Thai women definitely embrace the traditional feminine role when with a man, which I'm sure is not so common anymore in the West. 

 

Just look around the tourist areas in Thailand to see farang couples. The guy often looks in decent shape and probably fairly handsome, but he is walking with some frumpy ogre. It's hilarious 😂 

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Nah, my country has way way higher overweight and obese people than Thailand. 

 

And Thai women definitely embrace the traditional feminine role when with a man, which I'm sure is not so common anymore in the West. 

 

Just look around the tourist areas in Thailand to see farang couples. The guy often looks in decent shape and probably fairly handsome, but he is walking with some frumpy ogre. It's hilarious 😂 

Handsome? 

[FritsSikkink]

On 3/8/2025 at 7:22 AM, Robert_Smith said:

Just take a look at their public education system..

Appalling. 

 

regards,

bob.

I think my daughter is getting a better education than you ever had.

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Just look around the tourist areas in Thailand to see farang couples. The guy often looks in decent shape and probably fairly handsome, but he is walking with some frumpy ogre. It's hilarious 😂

I've noticed that too, the guys must be kicking themselves when they see what's available locally!

[FritsSikkink]

On 3/8/2025 at 8:22 AM, hotsun said:

Can you explain more? The schools in thailand leave the kids dumb. Does that not matter to you?

What university did you go to?

[black tabby12345]

I presume that simple Yes or No answer cannot be made in that respect.

As it is greatly up to where they are born.

If they are born among the affluent family with the descent parents, their level of happiness can surpass the west.

Also because of the less-stressful society of this kingdom

 

But if they were not that fortunate(born extremely poor with the parents lacking human qualities), life will be a lot different; series of hardship from childhood is more likely.

 

It is applicable to any nations though.

 

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, NoshowJones said:

It was a farang outside the hospital who told me what happened to him, did I not say that? Are hospitals not like banks and immigration offices who just make up their own rules?

This is Thailand.

 

Please stop....the point is 500 baht. If a foreigner is unable to afford the surcharge for a hospital in a particular location, he now knows to go to another that does not charge that fee.

 

  

On 3/9/2025 at 2:53 AM, NoshowJones said:

A lot of what you say here is true, but "affordable health care" may be the case in some public hospitals, but I was told by someone who went to the public hospital in Soi Buakow in Pattaya, that he would have to pay 500 Bt just to see the doctor alone before any charges for medical attention.

 

500 baht doesn't make it unaffordable to most expats and tourists and it's you, not the other foreigner posting it here and claiming that it is not affordable. 

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I've noticed that too, the guys must be kicking themselves when they see what's available locally!

 

What is available locally, is often the dregs. 

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

Just look around the tourist areas in Thailand to see farang couples. The guy often looks in decent shape and probably fairly handsome, but he is walking with some frumpy ogre. It's hilarious 😂 

 

Whereas the foreigners see it the other way around. The Asian woman often looks in decent shape and probably fairly okay looking, but she is walking with some ogre.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

 

What is available locally, is often the dregs. 

But the Thai dregs doesn't look like 50kg of potatoes in a 40kg bag.

[SMIAI]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

But the Thai dregs doesn't look like 50kg of potatoes in a 40kg bag.

 

Indeed, they look like something far worse. 

[FruitPudding]

1 hour ago, SMIAI said:

 

Whereas the foreigners see it the other way around. The Asian woman often looks in decent shape and probably fairly okay looking, but she is walking with some ogre.

 

 

Amazing Thailand!

[ChaiyaTH]

On 3/7/2025 at 5:03 PM, sidjameson said:

Western countries are trillions, yes trillions in debt but continue to pay good pensions. Of course Thailand's much better value than back home. 

Try telling a Thai earning a typical 10k to 20k bht salary Thailand has a better quality of life!

People totally lost it making these topics while ignoring this… its like you would earn only 1k fulltime back home.

 

It is not only ignorance but also being an extreme idiot and hypocrit. 
 

If i go to europe with 10k a month I could state the same too. How does that relate to your average european? It does not.

[BritManToo]

On 3/7/2025 at 5:03 PM, sidjameson said:

Western countries are trillions, yes trillions in debt but continue to pay good pensions. Of course Thailand's much better value than back home. 

Try telling a Thai earning a typical 10k to 20k bht salary Thailand has a better quality of life!

My Thai daughter earns 25kbht and seems really happy, nice apartment and just bought a new Toyota.

My Brit Daughter earns $$$$$s and is completely miserable.

[Cardano]

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I've noticed that too, the guys must be kicking themselves when they see what's available locally!

Have you ever stopped and thought that maybe they're happy and content with what they've got? Many a pretty face and hides a twisted mind.

[sidjameson]

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

My Thai daughter earns 25kbht and seems really happy, nice apartment and just bought a new Toyota.

My Brit Daughter earns $$$$$s and is completely miserable.

No offence, but having seen a pic of your uk wife and heard your description of your Thai wife I'd guess your Thai daughter is attractive while you're uk one not. For a woman that changes her experience of the world completely.

Of course I could be wrong 😂

[newbee2022]

On 3/7/2025 at 11:02 PM, Celsius said:

 

Why are you in Canada?

To defend the border with US. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/8/2025 at 1:20 PM, Harrisfan said:

Yes tech has ruined humans. Obesity, laziness. Towns are becoming clowns of each other.

I think you mean clones, though people are becoming more clownish by the day.

 

Laziness- definitely. Take a car, people can't even wind the windows by hand any more.

Obesity is it's own reward- heart problems, worn out knees, diabetes, etc so they die young.

 

There was a movie ( WALL-E ) some years ago about a robot, and a space ship full of humans so lazy they couldn't even walk. That was a movie made in 2008 and seemed like fantasy, but it's fast becoming reality

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/11/2025 at 12:14 PM, BritManToo said:

My Thai daughter earns 25kbht and seems really happy, nice apartment and just bought a new Toyota.

My Brit Daughter earns $$$$$s and is completely miserable.

Living in the UK would make anyone miserable. I'd have to be mad to retire there now.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/10/2025 at 6:52 PM, Cardano said:

My opinion is the reason those who are content with way less is because they never had way more, those that did are not content but just putting on a brave face.
The trait of being obsessed with being rich definitely applies to Thais as well, if not even more so. Many Thais are obsessed with the "face" issue and will get in to heavy debt just to try and portray their wealth.

 

will get in to heavy debt just to try and portray their wealth.

 

Sounds like where I'm living ( not in Thailand ).