Betrayed Warriors: The SAS Veterans Facing Legal Persecution

[newbee2022]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t think there is any suggestion of ‘war crimes’, rather unlawful use of lethal force/unlawful killing.

 

There was no declaration of war and civil law was in force at the time of the killings.

 

 

Why then there have been killings if there was no war? Makes no sense.

And if these killings indeed happened in their daily job...then it's murder.❗

Let the court decide.

[johng]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, and where do you come from........?

 

 oh I come from a land down under  you better run you better take cover !

 

no not really, I already told you were I come from in another tread about "the war"

the country that built Lancaster Bombers.

 

[newbee2022]

6 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

War crimes? Are you on a controlled substance because it seems as if you are. 

Are you blindfolded?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Why then there have been killings if there was no war? Makes no sense.

And if these killings indeed happened in their daily job...then it's murder.❗

Let the court decide.

Yes, let the court decide.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, johng said:

 

 oh I come from a land down under  you better run you better take cover !

 

no not really, I already told you were I come from in another tread about "the war"

the country that built Lancaster Bombers.

 

Then perhaps you should refrain from putting the boot in regarding UK special forces...🤔

[johng]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

Then perhaps you should refrain from putting the boot in regarding UK special forces...🤔

Not at all,

Just because I come from that country doesn't mean I have to agree with everything the "special forces"  do , I can agree with some of what they do  and

be uncomfortable with some of the things they do  and be totally against some of the things they do  and at the same time acknowledging the "special forces"  are "only following orders" and face severe punishment for disobedience.

[transam]

1 minute ago, johng said:

Not at all,

Just because I come from that country doesn't mean I have to agree with everything the "special forces"  do , I can agree with some of what they do  and

be uncomfortable with some of the things they do  and be totally against some of the things they do  and at the same time acknowledging the "special forces"  are "only following orders" and face severe punishment for disobedience.

In other words, you know nothing but like to scrutinise a service that is basically secret........

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, johng said:

 

 oh I come from a land down under  you better run you better take cover !

 

no not really, I already told you were I come from in another tread about "the war"

the country that built Lancaster Bombers.

 

That particular Lancaster Bomber ( The Mynarski Memorial Lancaster) is at the Canadian War Planes Heritage Museum in Canada. A nation that built Lancaster Bombers under license.

 

 

https://www.warplane.com/lady-orchid.aspx

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That particular Lancaster Bomber ( The Mynarski Memorial Lancaster) is at the Canadian War Planes Heritage Museum in Canada. A nation that built Lancaster Bombers under license.

 

 

https://www.warplane.com/lady-orchid.aspx

 

Reminds me of Hughie Green.........😉

[johng]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

in other words, you know nothing but like to scrutinise a service that is basically secret

 

Yes they are secret so that means everything they do is perfect  and should have no scrutiny at all ?

[transam]

Just now, johng said:

 

Yes they are secret so that means everything they do is perfect  and should have no scrutiny at all ?

Exactly, only to their team officers or the PM, not Joe Bloggs..........🙄

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Why then there have been killings if there was no war? Makes no sense.

And if these killings indeed happened in their daily job...then it's murder.❗

Let the court decide.

They killed terrorists who were carrying out terrorist attacks in both N Ireland and the UK. Their daily job was the SAS.

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

It's questionable whether or not the IRA were involved in a war, in the true meaning of it.

Provisional IRA  described their insurgency as a war of liberation.

[JAG]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Congratulations, you managed to vomit your both your LGBT and your immigrant fixations into a topic that isn’t about either.

 

 

 

 

Says the man who raised the spectre of the NAZI " just following orders defence"

 

PIRA had just driven a digger, carrying a massive bomb (which exploded) in its front bucket into the police station, followed by machine gunning the wreckage with a 12.7mm heavy machine gun. They were ambushed and killed in the response, whilst dismantling the HMG in order to escape.

 

Those are the facts. Not a war crime, not a crime at all. Certainly not murder.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, JAG said:

Says the man who raised the spectre of the NAZI " just following orders defence"

I was merely responding to a quote from the OP.

 

Thanks you for remind where I had previously heard that defense.

 

 

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The ‘only following orders’ defense.

 

Where have heard that before?

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

22 hours ago, Social Media said:

The issue is further complicated by lawyers bringing human rights claims against British troops, a practice that some veterans believe is being exploited. Simm specifically criticizes figures like Phil Shiner, a former left-wing lawyer who was disbarred and sentenced for making false allegations of abuse against British soldiers in Iraq. Shiner, once celebrated by civil rights groups, was found to have illegally profited from taxpayer funds while pursuing these cases. “Without clarity of the legal framework these troops will be operating within, the British public should prepare for more instances of ambulance-chasing, human-rights zealots like Phil Shiner assuming their ‘international duty’ of ensuring that no enemy of this country will die on their watch – under any circumstances,” Simm says.  

So true. Left wing "ambulance-chasing, human-rights zealots"

[Social Media]

A number of your troll posts removed @newbee2022 If you have nothing to add to the discussion other than responding with antagonizing deflection then I suggest you move to another topic.

 

A further post removed for comment on moderation from the above poster has also been removed and now earned himself a posting break.

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

So true. Left wing "ambulance-chasing, human-rights zealots"

And didn't so many of us chuckle when "Shiner's" little scam came unstuck!