The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

[LiamB80]

The most apocalyptic images in our lifetime will come out of Europe in the near future. So consumed with their hatred for President Trump they don’t see the real hatred in their own backyard. 

[rough diamond]

48 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you dont understand how the executive works in the US system.

Same way as you have no idea how the EU executive works.

[SpaceKadet]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

So do you think that Elon Musk is starting to unravel that?

 

How does it work in the saintly EU by the way?

EU in Brussels is an abomination, I will agree on that. Just a bunch of politicos emptying the coffers. And yes, most elected European leaders just lack cohones, but your POTUS does too....

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Completely wrong comparison. What you're saying about the US is true and happening, there is noone in Brussels deciding the Rumanian election.

News to me Musk and RFK jr. are elected.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you dont understand how the executive works in the US system.

I guess I don't understand how anyone but a would-be dictator would appoint people on the sole qualification of personal loyalty.

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

News to me Musk and RFK jr. are elected.

Which is not what I'm saying. Your view on the US is correct.

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I guess I don't understand how anyone but a would-be dictator would appoint people on the sole qualification of personal loyalty.

Got it. Only with Trump among all the Leaders in US history does personal loyalty equate dictatorship. You know naught about guys like William Seward, Sidney Hillman, Eric Holder, Robert Kennedy, Theodore Sorenson and others.

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. Only with Trump among all the Leaders in US history does personal loyalty equate dictatorship. You know naught about guys like William Seward, Sidney Hillman, Eric Holder, Robert Kennedy, Theodore Sorenson and others.

Name me one other President who required personal loyalty from ALL the people he appointed to their positions, WITHOUT regard to qualifications and experience.

 

Let's start with Abraham Lincoln, shall we? Or JFK and Johnson?

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Name me one other President who required personal loyalty from ALL the people he appointed to their positions, WITHOUT regard to qualifications and experience.

 

Let's start with Abraham Lincoln, shall we? Or JFK and Johnson?

Every one. Who of Trump's appointees aren't qualified?

 

Nice deflection from the topic. Trump on the brain?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Every one. Who of Trump's appointees aren't qualified?

 

Nice deflection from the topic. Trump on the brain?

You are the one who first mentioned Trump.

 

RFK Jr. has no medical qualifications. He's an antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist in charge of America's health. Tell me how you think he is qualified, it will be an interesting exercise in doublethink.

 

Or perhaps you can tell me how a television presenter has the experience to run America's military.

 

 

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Or perhaps you can tell me how a television presenter has the experience to run America's military.

You mean the graduate of Yale thats a combat vet.?

 

The Senate approved his qualifications

 

Keep peeing in the breeze

[JimHuaHin]

Must be  Trump supported and/or totally ignorant of the EU region.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

 

 

To fully understand the authoritarianism of the EU, it is worth studying some history, especially from a British perspective. In January 2001 when, under the 30 year rule, the Public Record Office at Kew opened the files relating to Edward Heath’s application to join the Common Market in 1970, the most striking of these documents were those reflecting the Heath Government’s reaction to something called ‘the Werner Report’.

 

In 1969, the Council of Ministers had commissioned the Prime Minister of Luxembourg, Pierre Werner, to draw up a plan to move the Common Market forward to full economic and monetary union. As luck would have it, his confidential report began circulating in Brussels in October 1970, just as Britain’s negotiations to enter the European Economic Community were getting under way.

 

In the British Foreign Office, as we now know, the Werner Report rang fearful alarm bells. A secret briefing note to Mr. Heath from Con O’Neill, the senior civil servant responsible for Europe, explained that, if implemented, Werner’s proposals would have enormous political repercussions. They envisaged “a process of fundamental political importance, implying progressive development towards a political union” The long-term objectives of economic and monetary union, it was made clear to Mr Heath, “are very far-reaching indeed”, going “well beyond the full establishment of a Common Market”. The Werner plan could lead to,“the ultimate creation of a European federal state, with a single currency.

 

Unfortunately, the treacherous Ted Heath and the Foreign Office, were not alarmed by the contents of the Werner report, but only concerned with keeping its contents from the British public, who were told that we were just joining a “Common Market” …. the rest is well documented and led eventually to the referendum of 2016.

 

 

 

 

[Nid_Noi]

15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Again, no idea.

 

The linked article talks about 3 domestic issues in Romania, Germany and the UK - which I repeat is NOT an EU member state - and makes only passing reference to the EU.

 

The linked article is tangential to the headline of this thread, 'The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy', and certainly does not offer much in the way of evidence to support your contention.

You have to do better than that as you seem to have answers for everything.

 

The EU commission has always been cleared about its choice about the EU heads of state.

EU subsidies require EU states to be obedient to the Führerin Frau von der Leyen.

EU has been promoting firewall policy to keep right wing parties out of coalition government.

 

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-10-2025-000150_EN.html

https://capitalresearch.org/article/george-soros-romanian-ghosts-explaining-the-democratic-society/
 

Soros has been very active in Romania for the last 6 months. 
 

We may see a new “Maidan” type of revolution but this time it may backfired because Obama’s Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is not there to fan the flames.

 

[Yagoda]

14 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

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They seem to wear MAGA hats. and bow to your "elected" GOD...

How does wearing a MAGA hat equate to NeoNazis (correctly National Socialists) taking over the US Government.

 

Who calls Trump "God".

 

Why are you embarrassing yourself?

 

 

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How does wearing a MAGA hat equate to NeoNazis (correctly National Socialists) taking over the US Government.

 

Who calls Trump "God".

 

Why are you embarrassing yourself?

 

 

He's not, you cannot read between the lines..........

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

He's not, you cannot read between the lines..........

Translate for me LOL

[stevenl]

41 minutes ago, Nid_Noi said:

You have to do better than that as you seem to have answers for everything.

 

The EU commission has always been cleared about its choice about the EU heads of state.

EU subsidies require EU states to be obedient to the Führerin Frau von der Leyen.

EU has been promoting firewall policy to keep right wing parties out of coalition government.

 

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-10-2025-000150_EN.html

https://capitalresearch.org/article/george-soros-romanian-ghosts-explaining-the-democratic-society/
 

Soros has been very active in Romania for the last 6 months. 
 

We may see a new “Maidan” type of revolution but this time it may backfired because Obama’s Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is not there to fan the flames.

 

The boogies are back, Soros and von der leyen.

[tai4de2]

"Russia Russia Russia!": the rallying cry of authoritarians everywhere.

 

This has been going on in the US since 2016. But its latest incarnation, in Europe, is even more virulent, having *actually* been used to subvert at least one election.

 

(This is where the usual suspects, devoid of anything of substance to refute this point, make some tangentially-related comment about Trump, or MAGAt, or Putin, or... whatever.)

[jvs]

Just have a look at what is happening in Serbia and Hungary right now.

People have enough of Putin and his reign,mass protests!!!!

Imo as soon as more countries realize Putin does not have the power to enforce his policies on other countries anymore,more countries will want their freedom and this is the time to do it!

As a result NATO will get more requests for membership and if NATO has to go without the US it will accept most of these requests and it will include the Ukraine.

People are sick of dictators,dictators are not elected,they buy it!

[Yagoda]

15 hours ago, worgeordie said:

No way am I going to click some article you have pasted on here...

 

 

regards Worgeordie 

I give you credit for proudly flaunting your desire to stay in your own bubble

[jvs]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I give you credit for proudly flaunting your desire to stay in your own bubble

Not unlike you i am sure.

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, jvs said:

Not unlike you i am sure.

If I was in an Socialist echo chamber Im sure I would see many folks here.

[tai4de2]

23 minutes ago, jvs said:

Just have a look at what is happening in Serbia and Hungary right now.

People have enough of Putin and his reign,mass protests!!!!

Imo as soon as more countries realize Putin does not have the power to enforce his policies on other countries anymore,more countries will want their freedom and this is the time to do it!

As a result NATO will get more requests for membership and if NATO has to go without the US it will accept most of these requests and it will include the Ukraine.

People are sick of dictators,dictators are not elected,they buy it!

Russia Russia Russia!

 

Like clockwork.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:

Russia Russia Russia!

 

Like clockwork.

They need an enemy to increase their power. Thats the Socialist way. Their entire political philosophy is dichotomous, Good vs evil, in their eyes, with murder as its goal. Now its Russia, prior it was Jews and Capitalists (and it still is). Notice how the Socialists dont harp about China? Hmmmmmmm.

[WorriedNoodle]

19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The EU should stay out of Romania and whoever he is who just got elected should be President Do you agree?

Don't be daft. So the EU should stay out of Romania's elections but not the Ruskies? Romania's Central Electoral Bureau, supported by the Constitutional Court, rejected the Călin Georgescu candidacy, citing violations of electoral integrity, including undeclared campaign funding and a coordinated online campaign linked to Russia. Additionally, he faces criminal investigations for charges like membership in a fascist organization and providing false campaign finance information, further justifying the ban.

[tai4de2]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

They need an enemy to increase their power. Thats the Socialist way. Their entire political philosophy is dichotomous, Good vs evil, in their eyes, with murder as its goal. Now its Russia, prior it was Jews and Capitalists (and it still is). Notice how the Socialists dont harp about China? Hmmmmmmm.

Oceania is at war with Eurasia, and has always been at war with Eastasia!

[johnnybangkok]

16 hours ago, Sigmund said:

Europe is doomed. Look at any major capital, plagued by crime, drug related shootings in daylight or terror attacks. I am not making this up.

 

 

 

Yes you are.

 

'Why European Cities Like London and Amsterdam Appear Cleaner and Safer Than Their American Counterparts' - https://city-countyobserver.com/why-european-cities-like-london-and-amsterdam-appear-cleaner-and-safer-than-their-american-counterparts/#:~:text=Crime Rates and Policing,gun ownership and policing strategies.

 

European countries in general also have a lower overall crime rate than most other continents and out of the top 20 countries marked through the Global Peace Index, European countries take 14 spots   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#:~:text=The 2024 GPI indicates Iceland,to be the least peaceful.

 

So yeah, you are making it up.

[Yagoda]

23 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

undeclared campaign funding

 

23 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

coordinated online campaign linked to Russia.

 

24 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

criminal investigations for charges like membership in a fascist organization

 

24 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

providing false campaign finance information

Hey fellow Americans. Sound familiar.?

 

The difference is that we let the people decide. You guys didnt. Someone substituted their judgment for the will of the people. Authoritarianism reigns.

 

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

 

Yes you are.

 

'Why European Cities Like London and Amsterdam Appear Cleaner and Safer Than Their American Counterparts' - https://city-countyobserver.com/why-european-cities-like-london-and-amsterdam-appear-cleaner-and-safer-than-their-american-counterparts/#:~:text=Crime Rates and Policing,gun ownership and policing strategies.

 

European countries in general also have a lower overall crime rate than most other continents and out of the top 20 countries marked through the Global Peace Index, European countries take 14 spots   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#:~:text=The 2024 GPI indicates Iceland,to be the least peaceful.

 

So yeah, you are making it up.

You are pretty safe in American cities (with some exceptions like Gary) if you avoid the inner city hellholes for the poor created and nutured by the woke Democrat "Great Society".

 

Plus you can carry if you are nervous. I myself like the traditional 1911, 45acp 230gr HP.