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Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat


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  On 3/18/2025 at 11:18 AM, Cameroni said:

 

I wish I had kept the package, but I wanted to erase all trace of that shameful experience as fast as possible. All I can remember is that the packaging looked delectable, a beautiful photo of a meat pie and thing said "made in Australia". Since I could not find the real thing, a British meat pie, I thought I'd chance it, my Australian lawyer colleagues were always meticulous and sticklers for detail, surely they'd get a meat pie right? But no, whatever that was, it was a culinary Waterloo.The worst, I got had again! As my usual bagels were not available I thought I'd get a pack of Cole's bagels. Again, nice packaging, shame about the inside. I really do hope Australians eat better than the selection of Oz food they have in Tops. 

 

This one Australian pie and the Cole's Bagel. And the beef obviously, but the beef is really good so I'm keeping quiet about it.

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Was this it? Sorry to bring back bad memories if it was. Like I said tough to give this a 1 out 10 as opposed to these real Aussie meat pies.

 

 

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Looking at a map it would seem Sudzha is now fully taken back by Russian forces.

The blue area is Ukrainian held and the grey area is in dispute. The phone call between Trump and Putin will be interesting. I don't think a 30 day ceasefire will come out of it but if it does one of the conditions IMO will be Ukraine surrendering it's incursion into Kursk. Difficult one as Putin probably won't want a Ukrainian withdrawal from here and will want a total surrender of troops and equipment. Trump will want a withdrawal of troops with guaranteed passage back to Ukraine. This of course could be only one of many points of negotiation. We'll see.

 

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/51.1763297/35.2269745

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  On 3/18/2025 at 11:32 AM, dinsdale said:

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Was this it? Sorry to bring back bad memories if it was. Like I said tough to give this a 1 out 10 as opposed to these real Aussie meat pies.

 

 

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No, it was not this one. It was a carton with a glossy photo.

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  On 3/18/2025 at 3:20 PM, dinsdale said:

Although this is a heavily Russian biased assessment it's extensive, well produced and shows the progression of the collapsing Kursk salient. If all footage is real i.e. when and where he says it is may or may not be the case but geolocations are mentioned and he does call out fake footage. Also the Ukrainian soldier's accounts in this article and various war maps support this vlogger's assessment. This is very interesting and gives some idea to how brutal this war is, how decision making is crucial, how effective the FPV drones are and how the Kursk incursion is now a total loss.

 

 

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i tell you why ukraine is loosing.

the main thing is... zombies.. yes it is.

 

orcs are attacking like zombie waved. 1 after another.. 1 after another.. they dont care about the soldiers.. they just send people to die till they get the area. 

 

we stop 2-3 waves.. by saying we stop them.. it means at least 12-20 dead orcs. and many vehicles.. obviously you have no idea what it means. also what it tales to hold this kind of attacks. russia doesnt use any weapon or tech but its own people. it is like this since the 2nd ww. but again you have no idea what im saying because youa re one of that brain washed russian. 

 

of course at some point we need to withdraw. because of ammo and other things. we care people.. we care lives.. we are not russians.. 

 

i can write another many things here but again.. the problem is people like you always comes up with funny things and they thing they are right even tho people show them how funny they are.. 

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  On 3/18/2025 at 3:28 PM, dinsdale said:

Your not real bright are you. I will post this Deep State map again but this time point something out that you were obviously not clever enough to notice. THE DATE.

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well russian einstain.. 

even you can know things changes fast at front.. and again its something you will never understand. 

there is no encirclement there on that map.. 

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  On 3/18/2025 at 3:34 PM, dinsdale said:

I never said there was an encirclement. I said supply lines have been cut or are in direct line of fire and yes things are moving fast. Ukrainian forces are withdrawing from Kursk into Sumi as fast as they can.

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well when i posted there is no encirclement ... your reply was not like that.. 

 

anyway.. im on my to kiev.. its our team 2 week rest time.. trust me i see and know many of your kind.. 

starting now i have no time for brain washed russian.. sorry mate.. enjoy your thailand.. beer.. while you can before putin gets you in his army lol

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  On 3/18/2025 at 5:24 AM, dinsdale said:

There will be no ceasefire until the Kursk salient has been totally brought back under Russian control.

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Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

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  23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

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You're funny.

The reason Putin went that way is that means that Ukraine would be required to stop attacking Russia's oil infrastructure. Ukraine has been incredibly effective with that. So on that aspect he's trying to get poodle Trump to force Ukraine to give up one aspect where they are winning against Putin. Putin is playing Trump for the sucker and horrible deal maker that he is. More like fart of the deal than art of the deal. 

As far as arming, it will be interesting whether the Europeans will play along with this surrender plan for Ukraine. 

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  23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

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It's nothing really. Although Ukraine has made some deep hits on Russian oil facilities none of them have been big enough to make a difference but this is still in Putin's self interest. As I mentioned earlier I doubted any ceasefire will happen until Ukrainian troops have been completely routed from Kursk which isn't too far off IMO. My guess is Trump has bigger cards up his sleeve to apply pressure to Putin. You're right about Putin and some of us (not many) on here have said that Putin is in the position of power in these negotiations. A thought I have is Putin knows how much of Ukraine he wants to take and when this has been achieved the front line will slow down and once massive defencive lines have been constructed a ceasefire will be negotiated.

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  On 3/18/2025 at 7:43 AM, Hellfire said:

  What do you want to say exactly? That people in modern Russia are not afraid to support Putin but afraid NOT to support him? But this is exactly what I wrote in my previous post. 
I will repeat myself: you have no idea what a true government oppression is if you compare what happens in the West today to what happens in Russia. 

   You, many residents of the modern West, have forgotten how to value the freedoms and rights for which your ancestors died. Moreover, you don’t even notice their presence in your life, just as you don’t notice the air you breathe. Hence your comparisons, which do not withstand any objective criticism, with truly cannibalistic regimes. One day, perhaps, you will realize your delusion, but I fear it will be too late.

 

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What about Ukraine? No more opposition either in the main street media and no more elections in the distant future.

Anyway elections would be a no-value until all Ukrainians are back home.

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  19 hours ago, dinsdale said:

A thought I have is Putin knows how much of Ukraine he wants to take and when this has been achieved the front line will slow down and once massive defencive lines have been constructed a ceasefire will be negotiated.

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He didn't want to "take" any of it.

 

But now that we are where we are, he's going to keep what is now Russia:  Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson.

 

Whether Odessa will hold a referendum and vote for liberation depends on the actions of the nazi apartheid regime.

 

 

 

 

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  13 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

It was, and they didn't succeed.

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It was an audacious plan and served strategic purposes at that time. Putin was embarrassed and had to move troops from the heavy fighting in the Eastern front to Kursk.  It was also meant to give Ukrainian bargaining leverage.
 

Ukraine has now have developed longer range drones that terrorised Kremlin and that has given them bargaining leverage. Putin has to concede a 30 days ceasefire on infrastructure attack. They didn’t succeed in Kursk. Military strategy is dynamic as conditions changed. 

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  14 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

He didn't want to "take" any of it.

 

But now that we are where we are, he's going to keep what is now Russia:  Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson.

 

Whether Odessa will hold a referendum and vote for liberation depends on the actions of the nazi apartheid regime.

 

 

 

 

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Ukraine is not nazi. That's a canard put out by the Kremlin propaganda machine, after Ukraine briefly collaborated with the Nazis back in WWII. Ukrainians soon found out the Germans were no better than the Russians.

Please explain how a nazi regime is headed by a Jewish President.

 

Any apartheid results from Stalin migrating Russians into eastern Ukraine after he killed about 6 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor, genocide by mass starvation.

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