Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't support the war, so why would I sign up to it?

So if the Chinese came for New Zealand, you'd be laying out the welcome mat?

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can understand why he did it- to divert Russian troops from the real war in the east. He just failed to understand that Putin isn't an idiot.

I beg to differ. Only an idiot would launch a war based on intelligence that told him what he wanted to hear.

[Lacessit]

On 3/18/2025 at 10:40 AM, dinsdale said:

You can bet your bottom dollar that war crimes and atrocities have been carried out by both sides. It's a bloody war of attrition. The rule book tends to get thrown out in battle.

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

 

Actuallly, the Ukrainians did kill civilians in Kursk, bombed apartment blocks in Russia, murdered Russian journalists.

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

Another gem of a post. You do understand that war crimes can also happen on the battlefield? This is war mate. Both sides are out to kill each other and are after victory whatever it takes. If that means for example dropping poisonous gas into the trenches of either side then so be it. It's happening. Both Ukrainian and Russian drones operators are doing this. HELLO! Reality mate.

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You are posting from New Zealand.

The point is he wants to stop the war and isn't encouraging others to fight for it and was actually a member of the armed forces rather than an armchair corporal.

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Russia will think it has won.

 

In reality, it is a pariah nation, with a ruined economy, and in demographic collapse. It's a Pyrrhic victory.

 

The Chinese will move on eastern Siberia when the timing is right.

They really won't because they are not stupid and would rather keep Russia in onside than make another enemy. Particuarly so since the west is rattling it's diminshed sabres at the Rising Dragon. Lest we forget the UK has virtually mothballed an aircraft carriet because it can't get the staff and the 5 billion Ajax tank still isn't in service. Something to do with shaking the occupants too much. You really couldn't make this stuff up but Starmer likes the khaki and posing with Macron whilst meanwhile thousands of muslim men land every week and are put up in 4 star hotels.

[Hellfire]

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It stopped being their own decision when they started forcing men to go to the front. Do all those Ukrainians hiding in Thailand think the war is a good idea?

Let me ask you. It is a night time. You are going home with your hypothetical granddaughter. Then there is a drunk Russian guy suddenly moving in your direction. He is big, he is strong, he is aggressive. What is your action? Will you calculate that you do not have any chances vs him and will run away leaving your g. daughter to deal with him? Reading your posts - this is exactly what you will do. Most of the Ukrainians are different. They are ready to die - if necessary. Not you and not even your orange clown will tell them what is the best way for them to act.

[Mike_Hunt]

28 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The point is he wants to stop the war and isn't encouraging others to fight for it and was actually a member of the armed forces rather than an armchair corporal.

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

[rough diamond]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

Of course he can but why should he now that trump has given in to him?

[Mike_Hunt]

24 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

They really won't because they are not stupid and would rather keep Russia in onside than make another enemy. Particuarly so since the west is rattling it's diminshed sabres at the Rising Dragon. Lest we forget the UK has virtually mothballed an aircraft carriet because it can't get the staff and the 5 billion Ajax tank still isn't in service. Something to do with shaking the occupants too much. You really couldn't make this stuff up but Starmer likes the khaki and posing with Macron whilst meanwhile thousands of muslim men land every week and are put up in 4 star hotels.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-russia-vladivostok-lesson-far-east-backfires-1869327

 

China has their eye on Russian land. 

[Mike_Hunt]

7 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Of course he can but why should he now that trump has given in to him?

The war is a stalemate.   What do you think should happen moving forward? 

[Hellfire]

11 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

He cannot stop anything. His stay in power (as well as his regime’s) depends on a result of this war. 

[sharot724]

Exclusive: Intelligence shared with White House shows Ukrainians not 'encircled' in Kursk 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/intelligence-shared-with-white-house-shows-ukrainians-not-encircled-kursk-2025-03-20/

 

[sharot724]

Putin changed his plans? Why Russia stalled near Pokrovsk

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-changed-his-plans-why-russia-stalled-near-pokrovsk-and-what-s-happening-in-kursk/ar-AA1Bn5Wm

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The point is he wants to stop the war and isn't encouraging others to fight for it and was actually a member of the armed forces rather than an armchair corporal.

Thank you. I have no idea of the point he was trying to make, with that strange post.

While I was serving during the Vietnam war I never got to see combat, as I was on my way when NZ pulled out. I spent 2 years in Singapore instead, so I probably had the better deal. Many NZ ex soldiers apparently still suffer from agent orange poisoning.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Lest we forget the UK has virtually mothballed an aircraft carriet because it can't get the staff and the 5 billion Ajax tank still isn't in service.

Just as well they had better boffins during WW2 then.

It's pointless throwing money at "defense" if they can't get anyone to join up.

I stayed in the regulars for over a decade, but in the end the bullying and incompetence resulted in my departure.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Hellfire said:

 

Let me ask you. It is a night time. You are going home with your hypothetical granddaughter. Then there is a drunk Russian guy suddenly moving in your direction. He is big, he is strong, he is aggressive. What is your action? Will you calculate that you do not have any chances vs him and will run away leaving your g. daughter to deal with him? Reading your posts - this is exactly what you will do. Most of the Ukrainians are different. They are ready to die - if necessary. Not you and not even your orange clown will tell them what is the best way for them to act.

Soooo, you are claiming that there is no conscription in Ukraine, there are no press gangs looking for men on the streets, there are no Ukrainian men hiding in Phuket, and there is a surplus of men volunteering for the front lines. Seriously?

[beautifulthailand99]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thank you. I have no idea of the point he was trying to make, with that strange post.

While I was serving during the Vietnam war I never got to see combat, as I was on my way when NZ pulled out. I spent 2 years in Singapore instead, so I probably had the better deal. Many NZ ex soldiers apparently still suffer from agent orange poisoning.

Interesting you literally dodged a bullet then. 3.5 million dead because the French and then the US wanted to thwart national self-determination of countries from their colonial masters.Britain under Wilson wisely sat that one out. Starmer is an idiot.

[Social Media]

A post containing a link from a Russian website has been removed as it is unapproved. This is not the first time I have removed Russian links from you @beautifulthailand99

 

Please keep on topic:

 

Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

Now you know why NATO countries are reluctant  to donate any more kit - they are out of it and what they have they need to keep for there own very depleted resources.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/21/ukraine-lost-too-many-tanks-in-kursk/

 

Ukrainian forces have lost around 950 tanks. That translates into a 3.4-to-1 loss ratio favoring Ukraine.

But in the eight-month battle for Kursk in western Russia, the Russians wrote off 66 tanks, while the Ukrainians gave up 55. That’s a mere 1.2-to-1 ratio favoring Ukraine. In other words, nearly even.

That’s bad news for Ukraine, which according to one recent analysis needs to inflict three times as many losses on Russia as Russia inflicts on Ukraine in order to degrade the Russian military faster than Russia degrades the Ukrainian military.

[beautifulthailand99]

As Russia retakes Kursk, Ukrainians ask, 'Was it worth it?'

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-retakes-kursk-ukrainians-ask-was-it-worth-it-2025-03-22/

 

Pankova, 25, believes the cost of Ukraine's risky incursion into Russia may have been too high. The sentiment is shared by many others in Ukraine, especially after troops retreated from most of Kursk this month following weeks of heavy fighting.
"I'm just not sure it was worth it," she said, large teardrops running down her face when talking about her missing friend, who she bonded with over their shared love of hiking in Ukraine's mountains.
"We're not invaders. We just need our territories back, we do not need the Russian one."

[sharot724]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/f-16-combat-missions-in-ukraine-are-a-major-success/vi-AA1BkUQ3?category=foryou&ocid=socialshare#details

 

Ukraine will endevor 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/f-16-combat-missions-in-ukraine-are-a-major-success/vi-AA1BkUQ3?category=foryou&ocid=socialshare#details

 

Ukraine will endevor 

Video report dated August 2024.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Interesting you literally dodged a bullet then. 3.5 million dead because the French and then the US wanted to thwart national self-determination of countries from their colonial masters.Britain under Wilson wisely sat that one out. Starmer is an idiot.

Agreed. Back then I was quite naive and actually believed the US propaganda re dominos etc. In the event Laos and Cambodia went communist BECAUSE of Vietnam war, and Thailand was never needing saving.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

As Russia retakes Kursk, Ukrainians ask, 'Was it worth it?'

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-retakes-kursk-ukrainians-ask-was-it-worth-it-2025-03-22/

 

Pankova, 25, believes the cost of Ukraine's risky incursion into Russia may have been too high. The sentiment is shared by many others in Ukraine, especially after troops retreated from most of Kursk this month following weeks of heavy fighting.
"I'm just not sure it was worth it," she said, large teardrops running down her face when talking about her missing friend, who she bonded with over their shared love of hiking in Ukraine's mountains.
"We're not invaders. We just need our territories back, we do not need the Russian one."

She better get used to it. Lots more Ukraine land going to Russia soon. The real question is if the entire war was worth it for Ukraine? Thousands of weeping widows and fatherless children, massive infrastructure destruction, while Russia gets the east and Crimea, which is what they wanted.

Real life is a bitch, ain't it!

[Jingthing]

On 3/21/2025 at 5:12 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing lasts forever.

 

If they keep Crimea and the east, that qualifies as a win.

Yes it would but only very naive people don't realize Russia's real intention. To control all of Ukraine, and more. Doesn't need to be literal. Could be like puppet Belarus. A temporary pause whether short or for years will not alter that one bit. Ukraine is seeking an end to this war that is a REAL end to this war so they can move forward in confidence as a sovereign nation. Trump is seeking plundering, business deals with Russia, a short term "win" and a Nobel Peace Prize. He says he trusts Putin. Either he's lying about that or he's even stupider than he appears.

[Lacessit]

48 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

She better get used to it. Lots more Ukraine land going to Russia soon. The real question is if the entire war was worth it for Ukraine? Thousands of weeping widows and fatherless children, massive infrastructure destruction, while Russia gets the east and Crimea, which is what they wanted.

Real life is a bitch, ain't it!

Was the war worth it for Russia? More weeping widows and fatherless children. A ruined economy, a collapsing demographic. An armaments industry which is a laughing stock. A currency no one wants, shut out from the world's banking system.

 

Yes , life can be a bitch, and it has obviously twisted you badly.

[sharot724]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Video report dated August 2024.

look at the 3/20 post 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

look at the 3/20 post 

link to it and I will............