Climate Crisis Reaches Critical Point as Global Records Shatter in 2024

[rickudon]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Science says the glacier is 10% bigger than the same weight of warm water.

Glaciers on land do not displace water. When one actually reaches the sea it only displaces that weight of water, the rest is above the surface. Science.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, rickudon said:

Deniers out in force. None so blind as those that cannot see.

Who's denying that climate is changing- no one on this forum.

 

What I utterly reject in any shape or form is that no matter what caused it, and that is open for discussion, is that anything that humans can do will have an effect on it, whatsoever. It's propaganda to make money for the 1% and increase taxes.

Humans will either adapt to a changing climate, or become extinct.

If they stopped spending all the money on bombs, they might be able to mitigate the problem, but there isn't any profit in that so it won't happen.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, rickudon said:

Sea level rise - now 3 times faster than it was in the 20th century. If your area is not seeing it, think geology, plate tectonics. some areas go up, others down. But the sea level average is always up.

I scorn your claim. Sea level rise around NZ is about 12 mm a year. If you are claiming that it's over that in other parts of the world I can not take you seriously. There are no stable higher water level rises in one part of the planet than in others, and to say otherwise is a nonsense.

 

IMO it's a fake claim to get stupid western politicians to give lotsacash to poor countries. So far not succeeding very well.

 

The number one thing that might reduce the human impact on the environment is a significant decrease in population, but that is never discussed by the pointless jaunts to exotic destinations by the climate change hypocrites, to which they fly in fossil fuelled aeroplanes.

[rickudon]

New Zealand gets earthquakes. after the Christchurch earthquake a few years ago, parts of the coastline rose by about a metre. I think your 12 mm per year figure  for sea level rise is wrong, and maybe you meant 1.2 mm. Here is a wikipedia link about sea level rise in New Zealand, suggest Thaibeachlover educates himself.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise_in_New_Zealand#:~:text=Sea level rise in New Zealand poses a significant threat,for infrastructure in coastal areas.

 

from the link above:

 

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An analysis in 2004 of long term records from four New Zealand tide gauges indicated an average rate of increase in sea level of 1.6 mm a year for the 100 years to 2000, which was considered to be relatively consistent with other regional and global sea level rise calculations when corrected for glacial-isostatic effects.

 

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The results of studies from a programme called NZ Searise released in 2022, indicate that for some parts of New Zealand, the apparent sea level rise will be twice as fast as previously predicted.  This is because of the combined effect of absolute rise in sea level with gradual subsidence of ground levels. ^[7] In some parts of Wellington, the land is subsiding by 3-4 mm per year, leading to an apparent 30 cm of sea-level rise in 18 years. By 2040, this is forecast to cause inundations every year that are equivalent to a 1-in-100 year event in 2020

 

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On 3/21/2025 at 9:19 AM, JonnyF said:

Meanwhile, back in reality.

 

This isn't about rapid developing localized disasters like hurricanes and tsunamis. . It's about huge swaths of the globe  heading into slow-motion disasters. For instance, mountain glaciers provide much of the world with water during their dry seasons. What happens when they disappear? 

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On 3/21/2025 at 2:51 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Seriously, early warning systems? Does she have shares? Given there are no safe areas to go to, safe areas with food, water and medical care, what are we supposed to do when the early warning system tells us a storm is coming, run down to the beach to see the big waves?

"mitigated", LOL. As usual .the numpties never say what is needed to "mitigate", or how much it's going to cost US As usual they never ask us, the people going to pay for it, what we think would be a good idea- only those anointed from above are clever enough to know what to do, even though they haven't actually done much so far.

 

IMO just another scam by rich people to fool the peasants into making them even richer.

Maybe, just maybe, you should actually try looking before you claim that  "As usual .the numpties never say what is needed to "mitigate", or how much it's going to cost US."

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/sustainable-inclusive-growth/charts/the-cost-of-climate-adaptation

 

Maybe you should ask what burning fossil fuels costs the world economy now:

https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies

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On 3/24/2025 at 11:42 PM, connda said:

Aw hell.  This doesn't fit the Man-Made-Climate-Change^TM  and The-Polar-Icecaps-Are-Melting^TM narratives.

The Sea Level measured at San Diego, California is doing what?

Ahhhh, it's going down.......

 

Oops!

Source: 
Established in 1933, the Permanent Service for Mean Sea Level (PSMSL) has been responsible for the collection, publication, analysis and interpretation of sea level data from the global network of tide gauges. It is based in Liverpool at the National Oceanography Centre (NOC).

 

 https://psmsl.org/data/obtaining/rlr.monthly.data/158.rlrdata

This is similar to people claiming that a really cold day disproves climate change. You're cherry picking.

 

Which are more accurate in measuring sea-level rise: tide gauges or satellites?
Both methods produce accurate results, though they measure different aspects of sea-level rise. Both show, for example, that sea-level rise is accelerating. But tide gauges provide direct observations, over 75 years or more, for specific, sparse points on Earth’s surface.

Satellites cannot yet match this long-term record; the altimetry record so far is just shy of 30 years. But satellites provide something tide gauges can’t: nearly global coverage, more thoroughly recording planet-wide trends and explaining the changes behind them.

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/21/which-are-more-accurate-in-measuring-sea-level-rise-tide-gauges-or-satellites/#:~:text=Level Change Portal-,Which are more accurate in measuring sea-level rise%3A tide,sea-level rise is accelerating.

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On 3/21/2025 at 9:19 AM, JonnyF said:

Meanwhile, back in reality.

 

And there's this:

Earth’s Land Masses Are Drying Out Fast, Scientists Warn

Researchers comparing satellite measurements of the planet’s water with the wobble in its rotation identified a steady loss of global soil moisture.

Earth has lost enough soil moisture in the last 40 years to change the planet’s spin and shift the location of the North Pole, according to a new study published today in Science that tracks how human activities have disrupted the global water cycle. The persistent loss of water from land to oceans has dried out huge portions of every continent and may be irreversible, scientists describing the new research said this week.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27032025/earth-land-masses-drying-out-fast/

[johng]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

What happens when they disappear? 

desalination ,reverse osmosis,distillation ?

[Yagoda]

we are all gonna die

[carlyai]

On 3/21/2025 at 2:25 PM, daveAustin said:

Cue the donkeys, boomers usually, labelling it all 'hot air'. They think it fine to continually pump billions of tons of shiite into the atmosphere, that our tiny planet will handle it with no detrimental effect on its inhabitants. These old folk will be dead pretty soon hey, so it doesn't matter much, right? The human ego is utterly selfish, arrogant, corrupted, diseased and in denial. I hear Venus is cozy this time of year. The fire-starters and big polluting agents should all F off there methinks. Let's start the ball rolling with the you-know-who incompetent old war-mongering fogey politicians that could make the most difference. 

Well I'm 80 with an EV and going Solar.

What are you doing?

[SpaceKadet]

//sarcasm on

Nah, it's just BS and propaganda. Happens every 100 thousand years or so. Not to worry ya'll, we will survive. In another 100 thousand years we'll have an ice age..... that's something to worry about.. But by then we'll have current space brains get us all relocated to Mars. Mars doesn't have those epicyclic extinction events. 

//sarcasm off

 

[johng]

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

we are all gonna die

That is the one and only certainty in life ...👍

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44 minutes ago, johng said:

desalination ,reverse osmosis,distillation ?

So you plan to water the crops with drinking water?

[Yagoda]

13 hours ago, johng said:

That is the one and only certainty in life ...👍

Better to die seeing short shorts and bikinis than Muktuks and Parkas.

[johng]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

So you plan to water the crops with drinking water?

 can use grey water for crops.

 

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, johng said:

 can use grey water for crops.

 

 

 

 

 

And how does water get to be gray water? And you think there's enough great water in people's homes to irrigate crops? And even if there were, which there isn't, how would it get to those crops?

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, rickudon said:

I think your 12 mm per year figure  for sea level rise is wrong, and maybe you meant 1.2 mm.

Must have remembered it wrong or was looking at a different site.

!2mm or 1.2mm hardly makes a difference anyway.

 

IMO MMCC is and always was BS. It's just a scam so the usual crooks can get free holidays in exotic locations, and increase taxes.

 

You could do with learning some manners.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/21/2025 at 8:25 PM, daveAustin said:

They think it fine to continually pump billions of tons of shiite into the atmosphere, that our tiny planet will handle it with no detrimental effect on its inhabitants.

No it's not OK to do that, and as it's going to kill off humanity the planet will have a chance to recover before the next dominant species evolves. Hopefully it's better than humanity.

[rickudon]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Must have remembered it wrong or was looking at a different site.

!2mm or 1.2mm hardly makes a difference anyway.

 

IMO MMCC is and always was BS. It's just a scam so the usual crooks can get free holidays in exotic locations, and increase taxes.

 

You could do with learning some manners.

Hmm manners.  you scorned my claim, and i politely pointed out you were wrong, You didn't dispute the New Zealand data i provided. Thus, you were not fully informed. Hence need to educate yourself more on this subject.

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Must have remembered it wrong or was looking at a different site.

!2mm or 1.2mm hardly makes a difference anyway.

 

IMO MMCC is and always was BS. It's just a scam so the usual crooks can get free holidays in exotic locations, and increase taxes.

 

You could do with learning some manners.

The usual ridiculous conspiracy allegation.