Russian Warships & Convoy in the English Channel Exposes Weakness in UK Sanctions

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Autocan said:

As of 1 January 2025, the British Army comprises 73,847 regular full-time personnel, ...

from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army#:~:text=* 73%2C847 regular forces personnel (January 2025),* 25%2C742 volunteer reserve personnel (January 2025)

 

Apologies, I was off by 20k. But they would still fit into Wembley, just fewer WAGs.

So you said 50,000 first (active members) and UK armed forces don't only comprise of the army.

 

https://fullfact.org/news/size-of-armed-forces-pre-election-briefing/

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Wonder if they could intercept the dinghys if they have a spare half-hour or so?

The Royal Navy are too busy policing other countries waters.

Royal Navy is not structured nor tasked with immigration control.   It already supports Border Force UK  in protecting the border. The RN is in foreign waters protecting vital shipping routes that benefit the UK.  If you want the RN to change its mandate have parliament  arrange that.

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Sanctions against Russia were implemented as a confession of helplessness. Subsequently they didn't work.

Peace with Russia - including Proxy wars - is the most important guarantee for economic growth and social stability.

Open the European door and let them part of Europe as it was centuries ago.

Don't follow the US mantra to claim Russia as an enemy.🙏

Russia has a long history of attacking its neighbours. Europeans don't want the presence of former brutal occupiers.  Russia basically looted eastern Europe for decades and left a legacy of corruption and pollution.

[johng]

5 hours ago, nakhonandy said:

Hence the sanctions are working.

 

If the sanctions are working then why has Europe spent more money buying Russian energy than it has given to Ukraine ?

[johng]

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 It already supports Border Force UK  in protecting the border.

 

If so they are doing a very bad job of "protecting the border"  much like the US southern border  I believe the influx could be ended almost overnight by someone who wanted to.

[newbee2022]

5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Russia has a long history of attacking its neighbours. Europeans don't want the presence of former brutal occupiers.  Russia basically looted eastern Europe for decades and left a legacy of corruption and pollution.

And...? That has to go on eternally?😳

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, nakhonandy said:

Sanctions were mainly economic. Look at the Russian economy, it's in a terrible mess.

Hence the sanctions are working.

Putin doesn't want war with Europe,  he's hoping his buddy, the world's worst negotiator, will get him out of Ukraine with enough concessions for him to save face at home.

Rubbish

[dinsdale]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

The convoy was heavily protected by the Severomorsk, a Russian destroyer, and the Alexandr Shabalin, a navy landing ship.

Heavily protected? One destroyer and a landing ship. This is the landing ship  Alexandr Shabalin. Journalistic license is one thing but heavily protected by one destroyer and this is just pulling the pis.

[johng]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Heavily protected?

 

Heavily protected compared to the rubber dinghy’s the Royal Navy  seem to have no defence against !

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, RayC said:

 

But you did say that Europe should open the door to Russia which would almost certainly be viewed as a vindication of its' actions by Moscow.

That's your insinuation but not what I wrote

[Mike_Hunt]

10 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Sanctions against Russia were implemented as a confession of helplessness. Subsequently they didn't work.

Peace with Russia - including Proxy wars - is the most important guarantee for economic growth and social stability.

Open the European door and let them part of Europe as it was centuries ago.

Don't follow the US mantra to claim Russia as an enemy.🙏

If Russia leaves Ukraine, and peace will break out. 

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

If Russia leaves Ukraine, and peace will break out. 

Peace was on the hands to catch, but there was clown Johnson who encouraged Ukraine to start and fight this proxy war.

[Mike_Hunt]

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No, Russia asked to be member of Nato even. But US said no, because they need an enemy all time.

Why lie

 

 

Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federationwere established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council. In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peaceprogram, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC). Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1] The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together.

Despite efforts to structure forums that promote cooperation between Russia and NATO, relations as of 2024 have become severely strained over time due to post-Soviet conflicts and territory disputes involving Russia having broken out, many of which are still ongoing, including:

 

Azerbaijan (1988–2024)

Moldova (1990–present)

Georgia (2008–present)

Ukraine (2014–present)

Syria (2015–2024)

Turkey (2015–2016)

Kazakhstan (2021–2022)

[Mike_Hunt]

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Peace was on the hands to catch, but there was clown Johnson who encouraged Ukraine to start and fight this proxy war.

Who invaded who?

[newbee2022]

4 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who invaded who?

That's irrelevant.

Relevant is: when is peace

[Mike_Hunt]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's irrelevant.

Relevant is: when is peace

Who stated the current war in Ukraine?    Russia can have peace after they leave.   Russia is nothing but a mob state. 

 

Does Russia have any redeeming qualities? 

[newbee2022]

5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Why lie

 

 

Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federationwere established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council. In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peaceprogram, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC). Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1] The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together.

Despite efforts to structure forums that promote cooperation between Russia and NATO, relations as of 2024 have become severely strained over time due to post-Soviet conflicts and territory disputes involving Russia having broken out, many of which are still ongoing, including:

 

Azerbaijan (1988–2024)

Moldova (1990–present)

Georgia (2008–present)

Ukraine (2014–present)

Syria (2015–2024)

Turkey (2015–2016)

Kazakhstan (2021–2022)

Good to use Google. And thank you for you assistance. But it has nothing to do with our present war. (Do you have a list actually of wars where the hegemon US was involved? I suppose it's a very long list including the efforts for a regime change.)

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's irrelevant.

Relevant is: when is peace

Good question. If the idiot Harris won it would be a long time from now.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Good to use Google. And thank you for you assistance. But it has nothing to do with our present war. (Do you have a list actually of wars where the hegemon US was involved? I suppose it's a very long list including the efforts for a regime change.)

Russia caused the present war. 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who stated the current war in Ukraine?    Russia can have peace after they leave.   Russia is nothing but a mob state. 

 

Does Russia have any redeeming qualities? 

Beautiful blue eyed women is the 1st thing that sprang to my mind.

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who stated the current war in Ukraine?    Russia can have peace after they leave.   Russia is nothing but a mob state. 

 

Does Russia have any redeeming qualities? 

It's a proxy war. 

You're good in using Google. Go for Minsk agreement and check how it worked out.

There the autonomy for the Donbass/majority=Russians is described. 

Did they get it? No

[newbee2022]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Good question. If the idiot Harris won it would be a long time from now.

That's an assumption.

 Maybe

[newbee2022]

3 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Russia caused the present war. 

Yes, but there is a pre-story as I described 

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

It's a proxy war. 

You're good in using Google. Go for Minsk agreement and check how it worked out.

There the autonomy for the Donbass/majority=Russians is described. 

Did they get it? No

Russia violated the terms of the Minsk agreement.   Russia cannot be trusted. 

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Yes, but there is a pre-story as I described 

 

What Russian propaganda narrative are you referring to? 

[newbee2022]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

Russia violated the terms of the Minsk agreement.   Russia cannot be trusted. 

The opposite is right. The West fooled Russia. Check your Google 

[RayC]

19 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's your insinuation but not what I wrote

 

My apologies: I forgot to include the word 'European'. What you actually wrote was, "Open the European door ...". 

 

Now you can question my conclusion that Russia will see an opening of the door as vindication for its' actions, but you cannot deny what you wrote.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

The opposite is right. The West fooled Russia. Check your Google 

 

How about you examine it for everyone on this site?   

[newbee2022]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

 

What Russian propaganda narrative are you referring to? 

I can't see that I publish any propaganda. Neither American nor Russian.

[Hellfire]

11 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Sanctions against Russia were implemented as a confession of helplessness. Subsequently they didn't work.

Peace with Russia - including Proxy wars - is the most important guarantee for economic growth and social stability.

Open the European door and let them part of Europe as it was centuries ago.

Don't follow the US mantra to claim Russia as an enemy.🙏

And a Nobel peace prize for Putin! Lick his butt properly!