Russian Warships & Convoy in the English Channel Exposes Weakness in UK Sanctions

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The UK would probably be a more pleasant and free place to live under Putin than Starmer. 

Doubt it but they're both c*nts although Starmer can be voted out. Not so for Putin. That would need a revolution. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

A good question. The time for NATO expansion took some time. This IMO has been planned for quite some time. Have to wait for conditions to be right. There are books and PhD's being worked on about your very question I'm sure. This is global politics. Extremely high level stuff and very complex. 

Nice word salad.  I would be easier to say I don’t know.

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Doubt it but they're both c*nts although Starmer can be voted out. Not so for Putin. That would need a revolution. 

 

Yeah. But at least Putin puts his own countries interests ahead of others.

 

Putin doesn't have contempt for Russia like Starmer has for Britain.

 

Putin isn't flooding Russia with people who hate it.

 

Putin isn't creating a 2 tier system that openly discriminates against indigenous Russians.

 

I agree with your assessment but I'd rather have a c**** on my side than one who hates me. 

 

 

 

 

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Nice word salad.  I would be easier to say I don’t know.

It seems you don't know what a word salad is. 

"A good question. The time for NATO expansion took some time. This IMO has been planned for quite some time. Have to wait for conditions to be right. There are books and PhD's being worked on about your very question I'm sure. This is global politics. Extremely high level stuff and very complex."

Explain why this is a "word salad". 

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah. But at least Putin puts his own countries interests ahead of others.

 

Putin doesn't have contempt for Russia like Starmer has for Britain.

 

Putin isn't flooding Russia with people who hate it.

 

Putin isn't creating a 2 tier system that openly discriminates against indigenous Russians.

 

I agree with your assessment but I'd rather have a c**** on my side than one who hates me. 

 

 

 

 

Agree but he is a murderous dictator. Let's not lose site of that.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

The UK would probably be a more pleasant and free place to live under Putin than Starmer. 

Go in live in Putin's country then!

[PuiPuiHarry]

And.. what do you suppose the British / French have to do at open seaways like the Channel ? Or the Sont between Denmark and Sweden ? Of Gibraltar strait ? Go on board of these ships, sink them ? in Open international waters ? ?  Get awake !

[newbee2022]

9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Putin doesn't have contempt for Russia like Starmer has for Britain.

That sounds extremely moronic.

A PM who hates his country?

People know him since ages and elected him.

Question: do you think Trump hates his country?

Or Orban, Meloni, Shinawatra?

[KhunLA]

23 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Does Pakistan even have a navy ?

 

I'd much rather have a conventional war against the UK than Pakistan.  UK is outgunned & manned against Pakistan.

 

 

 

(source - wiki)

[Mavideol]

19 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Oh geez, mate. Go back to kindergarten

are you having a bad day ?? chill out boy, there is always tomorrow

[Mavideol]

16 hours ago, Hellfire said:

Ouh, I see now. And how do you know exactly what Putin wants and what will fully satisfy him?

he knows because he's a Russian propagandist

[spidermike007]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:50 AM, newbee2022 said:

Sanctions against Russia were implemented as a confession of helplessness. Subsequently they didn't work.

Peace with Russia - including Proxy wars - is the most important guarantee for economic growth and social stability.

Open the European door and let them part of Europe as it was centuries ago.

Don't follow the US mantra to claim Russia as an enemy.🙏

Let us all take the knee to King Vlad. Give him whatever he wants. Never resist. After all, he is very noble. Just look at what he's done to improve the world in the last 20 years. 

 

 

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

That sounds extremely moronic.

A PM who hates his country?

People know him since ages and elected him.

Question: do you think Trump hates his country?

Or Orban, Meloni, Shinawatra?

I don't think Trump or Thaksin hate their country, but I do think that they hate citizens within their country that are worth less than 5 million dollars, frankly I think they despise all people who are not wealthy, including their supporters. 

[spidermike007]

15 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The UK would probably be a more pleasant and free place to live under Putin than Starmer. 

I think you are lost in space to make a statement like that. I don't see you making any effort whatsoever to move to Russia, nor do I see any expats making any effort to move to that God forsaken land. 

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

<deleted> Russia.   All Russia has to offer is war and natural gas. 

Thank you. If it were not for the minerals, oil and natural gas, I believe Russia would be a highly irrelevant state. Sure, it had alot of culture. Had. What have it's contributions been since the middle of the 20th century? You can make an argument that the space program was something that had some benefit for mankind, but beyond that i can't think of a single thing. 

 

One may ask why has Putin chosen this moment to make his move on Ukraine? As many have pointed out, Russia is an objectively weak state — “Upper Volta with nuclear weapons,” as someone once quipped — with a nominal G.D.P. smaller than that of South Korea. Outside of energy, minerals and second-rate military equipment, it produces almost nothing that outsiders want: no Russian iPhone, Lexus or “Fauda.”

 

Putin’s problem with Ukraine, starting with the Maidan uprising of 2014, is that Ukrainians want nothing to do with him. He is despised. And for good reason. If he were a Disney character, he’d be Rapunzel’s mother. But, he is not a Disney character, which makes him a pathetic, aggressive, serial killing despot dictator, who appears to be targeting women and children in his latest escapade, and further walk into the world of darkness.

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, Hellfire said:

So Putin is essentially fighting US and the West? Why does Trump seem to be on Putin’s side then? Is he a traitor or a spy?

I don't think he's a spy but you can certainly make an argument that he's a traitor, and it's very difficult to make an argument that he's a patriot. 

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Beautiful blue eyed women is the 1st thing that sprang to my mind.

From what I hear from a few different friends that have been seriously involved with Russian women, they would quite literally cut your heart out of your chest, if you pissed them off sufficiently, or if it benefited them sufficiently. 

 

That's just not the kind of beauty, nor the kind of soul I am seeking in this world. I much prefer kindness. 

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Why lie

 

 

Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federationwere established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council. In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peaceprogram, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC). Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1] The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together.

Despite efforts to structure forums that promote cooperation between Russia and NATO, relations as of 2024 have become severely strained over time due to post-Soviet conflicts and territory disputes involving Russia having broken out, many of which are still ongoing, including:

 

Azerbaijan (1988–2024)

Moldova (1990–present)

Georgia (2008–present)

Ukraine (2014–present)

Syria (2015–2024)

Turkey (2015–2016)

Kazakhstan (2021–2022)

It's quite obvious that Russia cannot be trusted, and they're always willing to break an agreement if it benefits them one iota. 

[newbee2022]

21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Let us all take the knee to King Vlad. Give him whatever he wants. Never resist. After all, he is very noble. Just look at what he's done to improve the world in the last 20 years. 

 

 

Yeah, Witkoff was very pleased. Check the interview with Tucker Carlson 🤣

[newbee2022]

41 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

are you having a bad day ?? chill out boy, there is always tomorrow

Maybe not for everybody. Be careful😱

[SpaceKadet]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:50 AM, newbee2022 said:

Sanctions against Russia were implemented as a confession of helplessness. Subsequently they didn't work.

Peace with Russia - including Proxy wars - is the most important guarantee for economic growth and social stability.

Open the European door and let them part of Europe as it was centuries ago.

Don't follow the US mantra to claim Russia as an enemy.🙏

Russia has never been a part of Europe. However, it did try to do dominate it on several occasions during the past centuries.

[newbee2022]

44 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:

Russia has never been a part of Europe. However, it did try to do dominate it on several occasions during the past centuries.

Rubbish

[SpaceKadet]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Rubbish

You believe what you want to believe, brainwashing is common....

[steven100]

On 3/22/2025 at 1:53 PM, newbee2022 said:

No, Russia asked to be member of Nato even. But US said no, because they need an enemy all time.

congratulation's  ......   you win the ' most stupid post '  award for the week.   

[steven100]

Blow all those Russian vessels clean out of the water.   Send a message to Putin to F#+^k  off outta foreign waters.    

[rough diamond]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Blow all those Russian vessels clean out of the water.   Send a message to Putin to F#+^k  off outta foreign waters.    

congratulation's  ......   you win the ' second most stupid post '  award for the week.   

[steven100]

1 minute ago, rough diamond said:

congratulation's  ......   you win the ' second most stupid post '  award for the week.   

stop supporting a murderous regime.  or move to Russia ....   Lol  

[frank83628]

Go Putin,

sail those ships wherever you like. 

[steven100]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Go Putin,

sail those ships wherever you like. 

I forgot your Russian.   Go jump in a trench will ya '...  Lol   

[frank83628]

33 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I forgot your Russian.   Go jump in a trench will ya '...  Lol   

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