TM 30 - Residency

[craighj]

Hello all

 

While I should know the answer to this question, I do not!

 

If you have you have full and proper Thai residency permit etc.  Is there a need for the TM 30?

 

Thanks

[Upnotover]

You mean PR?  I have read that PR holders need not worry about a TM30 but given the whole TM30 system is a shambles it can hardly be predicted what an individual office might decide is needed.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, craighj said:

If you have you have full and proper Thai residency permit etc.  Is there a need for the TM 30?

You mean Permanent Resident status. 

TM30 not required. 

[craighj]

3 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

You mean PR?  I have read that PR holders need not worry about a TM30 but given the whole TM30 system is a shambles it can hardly be predicted what an individual office might decide is needed.

Thanks Upnotover

 

Yes PR is permanent residency and yes I've heard that the TM30 is not need, I actually heard a lawyer say it.  However I'm wondering if that us actually true or not?

 

Agreed, the TM30 process is not at all a good one!

[craighj]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You mean Permanent Resident status. 

TM30 not required. 

If you have PR, permanent residency.  Does a TM30 need to be completed when yoy return to your registered place of residence?

[DrJack54]

Just now, craighj said:

If you have PR, permanent residency.  Does a TM30 need to be completed when yoy return to your registered place of residence?

No

[Briggsy]

The answer will lie in the legislation, both for PR and the legislation covering the TM-30 process. I don't know the answer.

[tomazbodner]

37 minutes ago, craighj said:

Hello all

 

While I should know the answer to this question, I do not!

 

If you have you have full and proper Thai residency permit etc.  Is there a need for the TM 30?

 

Thanks

Assume you mean permanant residence with blue/white Certificate of residence. No, TM30 not required. In fact the only thing to deal with immigration is non-quota resident visa + endorsement (generally no waiting, 30 minutes to complete at counter E1 at CW) to allow you to leave the country for up to a year. If you travel all the time, you'd probably do it once a year, if you have no plans to go, you don't need to do anything there.

 

The rest is once per 5 years at police station reconfirming your address, again 15 minutes job, and if you change address a visit to district office and police station to update it and get new pink ID if you want one.

[craighj]

48 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Assume you mean permanant residence with blue/white Certificate of residence. No, TM30 not required. In fact the only thing to deal with immigration is non-quota resident visa + endorsement (generally no waiting, 30 minutes to complete at counter E1 at CW) to allow you to leave the country for up to a year. If you travel all the time, you'd probably do it once a year, if you have no plans to go, you don't need to do anything there.

 

The rest is once per 5 years at police station reconfirming your address, again 15 minutes job, and if you change address a visit to district office and police station to update it and get new pink ID if you want one.

I’ve never seen a certificate, I have hard covered little book with the certification and associated stamps, finger printers etc but yes that is it.  Yes I’ve have had to get the permission to leave and no quota when planning to exit, I think TM 12 and TM 20.

 

Also completed my Alien registration at the local police station and updated it, that was fun 😣. At least the last time it was.

 

But the TM30 has stumped me, I’ve been told no need but when I do go to the local immigration, not often once a year maybe, they ask my wife for the TM30.  Though as they don’t deal with Farang’s with PR very often at all I guess maybe they just don’t know?

[tomazbodner]

10 minutes ago, craighj said:

I’ve never seen a certificate, I have hard covered little book with the certification and associated stamps, finger printers etc but yes that is it.  

Check what it says on the cover of that booklet 🙂

[craighj]

17 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Check what it says on the cover of that booklet 🙂

 

[tomazbodner]

5 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Assume you mean permanant residence with blue/white Certificate of residence.

 

4 hours ago, craighj said:

I’ve never seen a certificate,

 

3 hours ago, craighj said:

 

Yes, this one 🙂 The "Certificate of residence" Now it's blue one, but once you fill it up and go to immigration (counter E2) to get a new one, a couple of thousand baht and 6 photos later you'll get a new white one. You could then just go over to E1 counter to get a new non-quota immigrant visa and endorsement. You cannot move it from one booklet to another even you have many months left. That's also the only time the booklet would have address updated.

 

So, again. No TM30 to worry about. You don't need to report your residence to government. You already have a permanent residence reported to them - the address in your alien certificate (the red police book) and, if you have it, the pink ID card. And of course, in the blue house registration book.

 

Enjoy your freedom!

 

[craighj]

15 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

 

 

Yes, this one 🙂 The "Certificate of residence" Now it's blue one, but once you fill it up and go to immigration (counter E2) to get a new one, a couple of thousand baht and 6 photos later you'll get a new white one. You could then just go over to E1 counter to get a new non-quota immigrant visa and endorsement. You cannot move it from one booklet to another even you have many months left. That's also the only time the booklet would have address updated.

 

So, again. No TM30 to worry about. You don't need to report your residence to government. You already have a permanent residence reported to them - the address in your alien certificate (the red police book) and, if you have it, the pink ID card. And of course, in the blue house registration book.

 

Enjoy your freedom!

 

I appreciate your replies and information, thank you.

 

i’ve had for around 10 years actually but never heard about the use of the TM 30 until a week or so ago 🤣