3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Silly reply

It's what you asked for

On 3/25/2025 at 8:49 AM, renaissanc said:

I see that some posters want vaping to be allowed. Here are some facts about vaping harms:

• Vaping can cause lung damage. Research shows that vaping allows tiny particles to be inhaled deep into the lungs. ...
• Vapes contain toxic chemicals. ...
• Nicotine in vapes is addictive. ...
• Vaping causes breathlessness. ...
• Vapes contain cancer-causing chemicals. ...
• Vapes can burn you. ...
• Vaping can cause nicotine poisoning.
• Asthma. Vaping can make you more likely to get asthma and other lung conditions. 
• Lung scarring. 
• Organ damage. 
• Etc.

But a Cannabis joint/bong is OK!

BS post this: you still buy them anywhere, anyone still does it, tourist do it as well, can fly with it trough security etc etc no issues either. Cry me a river already. Just got 2 new ones on my recent visit to BKK last week and use them all the time, fly with them too.

 

Never had anyone bat an eye on me compared to cigarets smelling bad, much more looks. Clowns world this country and government.

On 3/31/2025 at 5:01 AM, hotchilli said:

The post is about Vaping, correct, but the argument regarding the illegality of them and the complete removal of them, leaving the far more harmful alternatives is questionable

No, that's not questionable. Vaping is not common so far and therefore easier to stop

14 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No, that's not questionable. Vaping is not common so far and therefore easier to stop

Vaping while not ideal is an alternative to cigarettes, which for decades have been medically proven beyond all doubt to be harmful.

But hey, let's not think about peoples health and stop the real health hazard, or upset the mega rich families from producing them

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Vaping while not ideal is an alternative to cigarettes, which for decades have been medically proven beyond all doubt to be harmful.

But hey, let's not think about peoples health and stop the real health hazard, or upset the mega rich families from producing them

What is definitely NOT questionable is the health risks by vaping.

On 4/5/2025 at 8:15 AM, newbee2022 said:

What is definitely NOT questionable is the health risks by vaping.

 

If you're going to claim there are definite health risks with vaping, then please point them out with evidence. So far, your contribution to this discussion is shallow at best and shows a lack of understanding of the broader picture.

 

Having lost family members due to tobacco smoking I'm sensible to this topic. I wish vapes would have been invented much earlier.

 

In my opinion, mentalities like yours are partially responsible for countless tobacco-related deaths. You push people to continue smoking or discourage those trying to quit via harm-reduction alternatives. That’s not moral righteousness—it’s ignorance with a tragic cost.

 

Facts:

 

Deaths from cigarettes in Thailand: ~70,000 per year

Deaths from vaping: 0

PM2.5 pollution is far more toxic than properly used regulated e-cigarettes.

 

E-cigarettes are harm-reduction tools, mainly used as a substitute for combustible tobacco. The government's opposition to vaping is largely driven by economic motives:

 

- Protecting tobacco farmers 

- Compensating for tax losses

- Serving vested interests (tobacco and especially pharmaceutical lobbies)

 

 

Being anti-vaping is aligning yourself with big tobacco and big pharma. Whether you realize it or not, you’re serving their agenda.

 

And as for the usual "protect the children" argument—let’s be clear:

No child should vape or smoke. Period. That’s where enforcement should focus. But punishing adult smokers for switching to safer alternatives is absurd.

 

Public vaping? Treat it like smoking. Regulate it fairly, not with fear-mongering.

 

Regulations ? Hell yes, regulate the market and ban questionable products from shady origin with no QC. Why not even ban disposable vapes as those seems to be unnecessary and produce tons of electronic waste.

 

Heck, even tax it if you want if, that might save you from loosing face and not wanting to be the one who made vaping legal (even though vaping is not illegal, it's just sheningans about the devices, act of buying, importing etc...). Most vapers I guess would not mind from what I've heard.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Galomir said:

 

If you're going to claim there are definite health risks with vaping, then please point them out with evidence. So far, your contribution to this discussion is shallow at best and shows a lack of understanding of the broader picture.

 

Having lost family members due to tobacco smoking I'm sensible to this topic. I wish vapes would have been invented much earlier.

 

In my opinion, mentalities like yours are partially responsible for countless tobacco-related deaths. You push people to continue smoking or discourage those trying to quit via harm-reduction alternatives. That’s not moral righteousness—it’s ignorance with a tragic cost.

 

Facts:

 

Deaths from cigarettes in Thailand: ~70,000 per year

Deaths from vaping: 0

PM2.5 pollution is far more toxic than properly used regulated e-cigarettes.

 

E-cigarettes are harm-reduction tools, mainly used as a substitute for combustible tobacco. The government's opposition to vaping is largely driven by economic motives:

 

- Protecting tobacco farmers 

- Compensating for tax losses

- Serving vested interests (tobacco and especially pharmaceutical lobbies)

 

 

Being anti-vaping is aligning yourself with big tobacco and big pharma. Whether you realize it or not, you’re serving their agenda.

 

And as for the usual "protect the children" argument—let’s be clear:

No child should vape or smoke. Period. That’s where enforcement should focus. But punishing adult smokers for switching to safer alternatives is absurd.

 

Public vaping? Treat it like smoking. Regulate it fairly, not with fear-mongering.

 

Regulations ? Hell yes, regulate the market and ban questionable products from shady origin with no QC. Why not even ban disposable vapes as those seems to be unnecessary and produce tons of electronic waste.

 

Heck, even tax it if you want if, that might save you from loosing face and not wanting to be the one who made vaping legal (even though vaping is not illegal, it's just sheningans about the devices, act of buying, importing etc...). Most vapers I guess would not mind from what I've heard.

 

 

Gibberish. 

19 minutes ago, Galomir said:

 

If you're going to claim there are definite health risks with vaping, then please point them out with evidence. So far, your contribution to this discussion is shallow at best and shows a lack of understanding of the broader picture.

 

Having lost family members due to tobacco smoking I'm sensible to this topic. I wish vapes would have been invented much earlier.

 

In my opinion, mentalities like yours are partially responsible for countless tobacco-related deaths. You push people to continue smoking or discourage those trying to quit via harm-reduction alternatives. That’s not moral righteousness—it’s ignorance with a tragic cost.

 

Facts:

 

Deaths from cigarettes in Thailand: ~70,000 per year

Deaths from vaping: 0

PM2.5 pollution is far more toxic than properly used regulated e-cigarettes.

 

E-cigarettes are harm-reduction tools, mainly used as a substitute for combustible tobacco. The government's opposition to vaping is largely driven by economic motives:

 

- Protecting tobacco farmers 

- Compensating for tax losses

- Serving vested interests (tobacco and especially pharmaceutical lobbies)

 

 

Being anti-vaping is aligning yourself with big tobacco and big pharma. Whether you realize it or not, you’re serving their agenda.

 

And as for the usual "protect the children" argument—let’s be clear:

No child should vape or smoke. Period. That’s where enforcement should focus. But punishing adult smokers for switching to safer alternatives is absurd.

 

Public vaping? Treat it like smoking. Regulate it fairly, not with fear-mongering.

 

Regulations ? Hell yes, regulate the market and ban questionable products from shady origin with no QC. Why not even ban disposable vapes as those seems to be unnecessary and produce tons of electronic waste.

 

Heck, even tax it if you want if, that might save you from loosing face and not wanting to be the one who made vaping legal (even though vaping is not illegal, it's just sheningans about the devices, act of buying, importing etc...). Most vapers I guess would not mind from what I've heard.

 

 

You're presenting only rubbish.

And I wonder why you are not able to do a sufficient research.

Because you are smoking the wrong stuff??

https://www.cancer.nsw.gov.au/prevention-and-screening/preventing-cancer/damaging-effects-of-vaping/vaping-harms-your-health

40 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

You're presenting only rubbish.

And I wonder why you are not able to do a sufficient research.

Because you are smoking the wrong stuff??

https://www.cancer.nsw.gov.au/prevention-and-screening/preventing-cancer/damaging-effects-of-vaping/vaping-harms-your-health

 

What does this glibberish-bull<deleted> speaker smoke? The wrong stuff? The most worst stuff!

 

The cigarette industry provides a lot of expert opinions on the dangers of vaping. Strictly neutral, of course!

Just as they had previously presented expert reports that testified to the health of smoking.

Only a fool doesn't want to admit it.