Marine Le Pen’s Political Future in doubt, verdict rocks French far right

[BLMFem]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

I agree with you. EVERYONE storming the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 should have been Babbitized.

So true. I don't mind terrorists getting shot at all, and that bunch should have been met by a hail of bullets, not flimsy barricades.

[GroveHillWanderer]

7 hours ago, James105 said:

It's a thing for certain politicians in Europe yes, depending on their politics and how much of a threat they are to the establishment.  I presume that you are fine with Christine Lagarde facing no punishment at all for a far more significant criminal act than simply mis-assigning aides time to work on party business rather than EU business?

How is it "a far more significant criminal act"? Lagarde's crime was a single count of negligence, for failing to ask enough questions about a compensation payment to a businessman that had been authorised by an independent three-member arbitration panel which she did not control.

 

As for Le Pen, as the judge at her trial stated, one of the reasons her sentence was as much as it was, is because she wasn't guilty merely of negligence, she was guilty of deliberately embezzling funds for the benefit of her organisation, her family and friends, in a continuing scheme that extended for a period of 11 years.

[Gecko123]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No she's not. Do keep up.

French far-right leader Le Pen sentenced to prison and banned from office in embezzlement trial. Le Pen may still appeal the four-year sentence, two years of it suspended, and five-year political ban, which came after she was found guilty of misusing $3 million to pay party staff.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-le-pen-marine-guilty-right-national-rally-paris-embezzlement-rcna198816

 

Edit: From Reuters:

Le Pen's five-year public office ban cannot be suspended by appeal, although she will retain her parliamentary seat until her term ends. She also received a four-year prison sentence - two years of which are suspended and two years to be served under home detention, and a 100,000-euro ($108,200) fine, but they will not apply until her appeals are exhausted.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/frances-le-pen-faces-crunch-day-graft-trial-that-could-kill-her-presidential-2025-03-31/

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

French far-right leader Le Pen sentenced to prison and banned from office in embezzlement trial. Le Pen may still appeal the four-year sentence, two years of it suspended, and five-year political ban, which came after she was found guilty of misusing $3 million to pay party staff.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-le-pen-marine-guilty-right-national-rally-paris-embezzlement-rcna198816

 

I predict they will remove the jail sentence and keep the political ban.

 

After all, the political ban was the whole point of all this.  

[Negita43]

It is possible that far from putting her political future in doubt this decision has ensured it.

Whilst not denying that within politics, corruption occurs far too often, I think that people are becoming somewhat disenchanted with this way of disenfranchising political rivals and may well (in France at least) make their feelings apparent at the ballot box (whether that be for her or her chosen successor).

 

[Gecko123]

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I predict they will remove the jail sentence and keep the political ban.

 

After all, the political ban was the whole point of all this.  

You seem to be very determined to ignore the fact that a crime was committed, there was damming hard evidence in support of the allegations, and it was in fact right-wing politicians who successfully pushed for stiffening the penalties for misuse of public funds.

[Eric Loh]

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I'm sure they are plotting how to jail or disqualify Jordan Bardella as we speak.

 

Given his youth and looks, removing Le Pen might spectacularly backfire like it did with the Trump kangaroo court. Leftists appear incapable of learning lessons. 

 

A united left will always defeat the right in any election in France. Trump and Elon antics are not boosting the right wingers in Europe.

 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

A united left will always defeat the right in any election in France. Trump and Elon antics are not boosting the right wingers in Europe.

 

 

Do you work for CNN by any chance?

[Eric Loh]

47 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Do you work for CNN by any chance?

You think I work for FOX? 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/frances-far-left-won-parliamentary-plurality-stunning-upset-comes-next

[Negita43]

There seems to be a very confused poster on this thread

[riclag]

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What part of France do you live in? Do you speak French?

I don’t live in France or speak it!

 

Viva le Pen , lawfare by the left, god willing it  comes back to bite the 

extreme radical left!

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I agree with you. EVERYONE storming the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 should have been Babbitized.

Say again? You would support the murder of unarmed American protesters.?

 

That figures with your user name

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So shooting "terrorists" is good, but jailing criminals is bad. Go it!

Who opposes jailing criminals?

[TedG]

8 hours ago, BerndD said:

It's good that France is not like the US. In the USA, a criminal, a liar and a fraudster could become president.

In France, the judiciary is still independent! Thank God or whomever!

 

The qualification run for office are defined in the US Constitution.  

[TedG]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

You must have conclusive proof of her innocence, or you're just a fascist who thinks your ilk are incapable of committing crimes.

 

It seems MAGAs and righties are more than a bit thick, too ignorant to learn the historical lessons of when rule of law breaks down and the guilty are allowed to get away scot free.

LOL…Hillary Clinton and Teddy Kennedy are mocking you.   So is Joe BIden 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I don’t live in France or speak it!

 

Viva le Pen , lawfare by the left, god willing it  comes back to bite the 

extreme radical left!

I thought you appreciated law and order?

[expat_4_life]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm sure they are plotting how to jail or disqualify Jordan Bardella as we speak.

Wouldn't surprise me ...

JD Vance was right about Europe:
"For years we've been told everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values, everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defence of democracy, but when we see European courts cancelling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others we ought to ask ourselves if we are holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard." (February 2025)
 

This is how it has been going ...

[Sir Dude]

Verdict decided before the trail even started... was a lefty show trail by unelected judges who should stay out of politics.

[TedG]

3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So true. I don't mind terrorists getting shot at all, and that bunch should have been met by a hail of bullets, not flimsy barricades.

Does this apply to the lefties setting Teslas on fire?  This this apply to the lefties engaged in the 2020 summer of love? 

[BLMFem]

12 minutes ago, TedG said:

Does this apply to the lefties setting Teslas on fire?

Mummy, they're being mean to Elon!!!

[stevenl]

33 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

trail by unelected judges

Yes, that's the power of an independent judiciary.

[Gecko123]

It was her father Jean-Marie Le Pen who indoctrinated her in her xenophobic and racist beliefs, and it was her father who originally set up the scheme to siphon EU deputy and EU deputy assistant staff salaries and expenses to support the National Rassemblement (formerly National Front) party. She finally expelled her father in 2015 from the party because he kept exposing such extreme and politically unpalatable views. When he died in January of this year she said she would "never forgive herself" for having expelled him from the party. When you consider that he was the one who set up the scheme, and no doubt encouraged her to continue it, I can't help but wonder whether she is now not only able to forgive herself, but wishing she had done it a decade sooner.

[BerndD]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you have a port in the back of your head like in the Matrix to get left wing propaganda directly into your brain?

Sorry, my brain is different from thaibeachlovers one.

[BerndD]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Shooting folks tossing Molotovs is called killing terrorists. Show me any state in the USA where one is not permitted to use lethal force against an arsonist.

 

Hypocrisy is calling criminal arsonists "political opponents".

 

You arent even a good troll. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh really, is that why French President Nicolas Sarkozy was convicted of corruption and given a one year prison sentence on 30th September 2021 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

The conviction followed the term in office.

 

Spot the difference?

 

[candide]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

I predict they will remove the jail sentence and keep the political ban.

 

After all, the political ban was the whole point of all this.  

B.S.!

Judges have to apply the law. The law is clear and the evidence is unambiguous.

A law which was voted by lawmakers to prevent politicians from being corrupt. 

[candide]

32 minutes ago, candide said:

B.S.!

Judges have to apply the law. The law is clear and the evidence is unambiguous.

A law which was voted by lawmakers to prevent politicians from being corrupt. 

In case I wasn't clear enough. The inegibility sanction is not optional, it is mandatory. The judges (they were three) have to apply it. They are not allowed to decide otherwise.

[Sir Dude]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Yes, that's the power of an independent judiciary.

Courts have been weaponised to complement a certain agenda... don't be naive.

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Verdict decided before the trail even started... was a lefty show trail by unelected judges who should stay out of politics.

So which part of the embezzlement and misappropriation of public funds evidence do you disagree with? How was it decided up front? Did everyone agree to falsify the evidence in court?

Tell me please, which specific piece of evidence you disagree with.

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, BerndD said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

Wrong ethnicity, already the subject of debate here from other immature Socialist lovers so your research skills are suspect.