Game On

[Yagoda]

The race is on.

 

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-trumps-tariffs-are-reshaping-global-trade

 

"The unveiling of sweeping tariffs has fundamentally shifted the nature of global trade diplomacy. Rather than resolving disputes through established norms and multilateral institutions, the United States is reframing trade as a dynamic game of leverage and individual negotiations. In such an environment, economic diplomacy becomes less about adhering to agreed-upon frameworks and more about individual nations’ capacities to manage risk, signal resolve, and exploit informational asymmetries."

[Cameroni]

There is no doubt that Trump is using the tariffs as a bargaining chip for negotiation.

[Digitalbanana]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

There is no doubt that Trump is using the tariffs as a bargaining chip for negotiation.

No one in their right mind bargains with a bully.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

No one in their right mind bargains with a bully.

All these countries are:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/southeast-asia-rushes-to-avert-tariff-pain-by-enticing-trump/ar-AA1CkDKP?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=95da1a05a6764878b3aa2f24ff626638&ei=63

 

Realpolitik is back!

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There is no doubt that Trump is using the tariffs as a bargaining chip for negotiation.

That's clear to see if you're rational, logical thinking... but the anti Trumpers are irrational and melting down over it. 

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

That's clear to see if you're rational, logical thinking... but the anti Trumpers are irrational and melting down over it. 

I see a total rearrangement of the world coming. Tarriffs are just a part of it.

 

I was watching Trump biatch about other countries tariffs on Oprah in the 80s.  When he was the darling of the Democrats and they were all for reciprocal tariffs. Pelosi, and Hillary and Barack all talking about how great tarrifs are, etc.

[worgeordie]

The Trump cultists think this is a good thing , but the Penguins on Heard and Mcdonalds Islands,

and the rest of the World are not happy about these tariffs ,the rare earths that are needed by Tesla,

are going through the roof , China is not giving in to Trump,  

 

He's off playing golf while the World burns , Saudi Arabia Golf tournament is more important ,even

more than been at the return of 4 soldiers that lost their lives in Lithuania ,because HE gets money,

which is more important to him

 

regards Worgeordie

 

  

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The Trump cultists think this is a good thing , but the Penguins on Heard and Mcdonalds Islands,

and the rest of the World are not happy about these tariffs ,the rare earths that are needed by Tesla,

are going through the roof , China is not giving in to Trump,  

 

He's off playing golf while the World burns , Saudi Arabia Golf tournament is more important ,even

more than been at the return of 4 soldiers that lost their lives in Lithuania ,because HE gets money,

which is more important to him

 

regards Worgeordie

 

  

 

The tariffs ARE good for America.

 

US products will be cheaper and thus will be bought more than foreign products. 

 

Those US companies who manufacture abroad will bring manufacturing back to the US.

 

An economic boom is heading towards the US that will revitalize the US economy.

[frank83628]

50 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The Trump cultists think this is a good thing , but the Penguins on Heard and Mcdonalds Islands,

and the rest of the World are not happy about these tariffs ,the rare earths that are needed by Tesla,

are going through the roof , China is not giving in to Trump,  

 

He's off playing golf while the World burns , Saudi Arabia Golf tournament is more important ,even

more than been at the return of 4 soldiers that lost their lives in Lithuania ,because HE gets money,

which is more important to him

 

regards Worgeordie

 

  

Take a check up on how many hours Biden was working before spouting off 

[rough diamond]

43 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

US products will be cheaper

Not the ones that rely on imported components.

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

The tariffs ARE good for America.

 

US products will be cheaper and thus will be bought more than foreign products. 

 

Those US companies who manufacture abroad will bring manufacturing back to the US.

 

An economic boom is heading towards the US that will revitalize the US economy.

"An economic boom is heading towards the US that will revitalize the US economy."

After the economy has been ruined by Donald , I suppose the only way is up ,with

someone else in charge who actually know how an economy works ....

 

regards Worgeordie 

[hotandsticky]

3 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

"An economic boom is heading towards the US that will revitalize the US economy."

After the economy has been ruined by Donald , I suppose the only way is up ,with

someone else in charge who actually know how an economy works ....

 

regards Worgeordie 

 

 

Don't you fret, the Donald has it under control.

[Walker88]

Well, US products will be cheaper if, after a few years of design, engineering, and building of factories, MAGAs go to work at the same rate as Bangladesh women in sweat shops. Given that the Bangladeshi women have more skills than the average MAGA, the quality will be lower.

 

Then again, many companies will consider what it would cost to buy land, design and build a facility, and then employ Americans to work.....and realize the costs are more than the tariffs, so why bother. It's better to keep the factories and shops in Vietnam and sell to the other 7,700,000,000 people of the world who are not Americans.

 

To top it off, Americans will be poor and wildly indebted after years of paying the high tariffs for all the goods not made in the US and not behind the tariffs.

 

Oh, and foreign companies are unlikely to trust POTUS....maybe they go to all the trouble of building a US factory, but at the slightest downturn in the US economy, POTUS issues an EO that says non-US owned companies---even if they have factories inside the US---get taxed or tariffed.

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

The tariffs ARE good for America.

 

US products will be cheaper and thus will be bought more than foreign products. 

 

Those US companies who manufacture abroad will bring manufacturing back to the US.

 

An economic boom is heading towards the US that will revitalize the US economy.

This guy disagrees with you. But what does he know!

 

Nike 'Won't Build Factories' In US, They Will Sell To Countries Like China

 

Economist Peter Schiff warned on Thursday that Nike Inc. (NYSE:NKE) won’t shift production to the United States despite newly imposed tariffs, predicting higher prices and reduced domestic sales for the footwear giant.

What Happened: “Nike won’t build factories in the U.S. to make sneakers. That would add more cost than the 40% tariffs,” Schiff wrote on X. “The result will be fewer sneakers sold in the U.S. at much higher prices.”

[BLMFem]

I hereby petition the thread to be renamed to;

 

The race to the bottom is on.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

This guy disagrees with you. But what does he know!

 

Nike 'Won't Build Factories' In US, They Will Sell To Countries Like China

 

Economist Peter Schiff warned on Thursday that Nike Inc. (NYSE:NKE) won’t shift production to the United States despite newly imposed tariffs, predicting higher prices and reduced domestic sales for the footwear giant.

What Happened: “Nike won’t build factories in the U.S. to make sneakers. That would add more cost than the 40% tariffs,” Schiff wrote on X. “The result will be fewer sneakers sold in the U.S. at much higher prices.”

 

Peter Schiff? Yeah, that's a credible source:

 

"On June 30, 2022, the Puerto Rico Office of the Commissioner of Financial Institutions (OCIF) announced they had suspended the operations of Schiff's Puerto Rico-based Euro Pacific International Bank, which was suspected of having facilitated money laundering and tax evasion. The Commissioner stated that it had found numerous violations of its regulations and that the bank had "not wanted to comply". Regulators liquidated the bank, and Schiff paid $300,000 in fines."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schiff

[Harrisfan]

Wait 6 months. See what happens. 24/7 drama queens need to give it a rest.

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Peter Schiff? Yeah, that's a credible source:

 

"On June 30, 2022, the Puerto Rico Office of the Commissioner of Financial Institutions (OCIF) announced they had suspended the operations of Schiff's Puerto Rico-based Euro Pacific International Bank, which was suspected of having facilitated money laundering and tax evasion. The Commissioner stated that it had found numerous violations of its regulations and that the bank had "not wanted to comply". Regulators liquidated the bank, and Schiff paid $300,000 in fines."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schiff

That's all? Are you telling me that he isn't even a convicted criminal like Trump is?

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

There is no doubt that Trump is using the tariffs as a bargaining chip for negotiation.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

That's clear to see if you're rational, logical thinking... but the anti Trumpers are irrational and melting down over it. 

 

Like these 2 irrational anti-Trumpers?

President Donald Trump on Thursday contradicted his top aides on the purpose of his sprawling new global tariff regime, adding to the uncertainty over the trade war that has sent markets reeling.Earlier in the day, top Trump aide Peter Navarro and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said the president was not looking to strike deals over the tariffs. “This is not a negotiation,” Navarro told CNBC.                                 https://archive.ph/TZsIx#selection-287.0-287.68

[worgeordie]

28 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Don't you fret, the Donald has it under control.

His mind is on Golf ..taking money from the Saudi's , I all right jack 

 

regards worgeordie

[BLMFem]

Trump's tariffs are hitting China's friends hard — and giving Beijing a golden opportunity

 

"Analysts and researchers who study the area told Business Insider the tariffs would probably push China's allies closer to Beijing, giving China's leader, Xi Jinping, an opportunity to strengthen his hold on a region that his country greatly values.

"Strategically, the US is now handing a victory to China in the US-China competition," said Vina Nadjibulla, the vice president of research and strategy at the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada."

 

Yep, the reshaping of the world economy is happening, but not in ways the clowns imagined.

[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, rough diamond said:

Not the ones that rely on imported components.

 

Great!

 

The US consumer can survive on just what the US produces - genders and cluster bombs.

 

Winning!

[BLMFem]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

Like these 2 irrational anti-Trumpers?

President Donald Trump on Thursday contradicted his top aides on the purpose of his sprawling new global tariff regime, adding to the uncertainty over the trade war that has sent markets reeling.Earlier in the day, top Trump aide Peter Navarro and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said the president was not looking to strike deals over the tariffs. “This is not a negotiation,” Navarro told CNBC.                                 https://archive.ph/TZsIx#selection-287.0-287.68

Yeah, the sh** show is in full swing;

 

Trump Has Already Botched His Own Bad Tariff Plan

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/trump-negotiation-tariff/682300/

 

"Once you’ve said you might negotiate, nobody is going to believe you when you change your mind and say you’ll never negotiate."

[Cameroni]

10 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

That's all? Are you telling me that he isn't even a convicted criminal like Trump is?

 

That's all? He's a money launderer and tax evader! 

 

This is the person you're suggesting as a credible source?

[mfd101]

15 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Wait 6 months. See what happens.

It'll play out over much longer than that. By the time of the next Presidential election (if there is one) we should have an initial view of how the post-WTO world is going.

 

But of course much that is economic depends also on other security-type issues such as Ukraine & Taiwan and the accompanying military expenditures ...

[spidermike007]

37 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Don't you fret, the Donald has it under control.

Yes we love his brand of control, the same brand that he used to put 17 major businesses under, and bankrupt enormous businesses that's real control. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

And now his goal appears to be to destroy the American economy too, and perhaps take the world with it. Is he one of histories great sadists? Maybe. Or is there a diabolical plan at work? 

 

 

[BLMFem]

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's all?

By no means. He is also sex offender, a thief stealing highly classified files (AKA treason), a serial bankruptcy loser, an expert on stiffing small contractors, a person who lead an insurrection, a......

I could go on here for a very long time, but in short this criminal moron is now tanking the US economy. Well done Trump voters, I hope it hits you really, really hard.

[bunnydrops]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

All these countries are:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/southeast-asia-rushes-to-avert-tariff-pain-by-enticing-trump/ar-AA1CkDKP?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=95da1a05a6764878b3aa2f24ff626638&ei=63

 

Realpolitik is back!

Because the people in these countries can't afford American products, tariffed or not, it would be a win/win for them to drop their tariffs if they get tariff-free trade with the US out of the deal.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

No one in their right mind bargains with a bully.

The right way to deal with a bully is a good smack in the mouth.

 

Trump would look extremely stupid if Canada cuts off all electricity to the north-eastern seaboard, or halts oil supply.

 

As it is, it's slapping tariffs on both. Higher cost power and gasoline for Americans.

[hotandsticky]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes we love his brand of control, the same brand that he used to put 17 major businesses under, and bankrupt enormous businesses that's real control. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

And now his goal appears to be to destroy the American economy too, and perhaps take the world with it. Is he one of histories great sadists? Maybe. Or is there a diabolical plan at work? 

 

 

 

 

77 million voters can't be wrong....